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post #2701 of 4252 Old 12-29-2013, 10:06 AM
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yes I get disney and cnbc on the tv just with the tuner they are not scrambled here ,part of basic cable in the building
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I think I know whats going on then, are Disney and CNBC on channels that are whole numbers(eg 2.0 or 23.0 or even just 23)? if so they are analog channels which the iView will not tune. The iView only has a digital tuner and as such can only receive channels like 2.1 or 23.2

If your channels are analog you'll need a DVR with a analog tuner, which are getting harder and harder to find.

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OK, a few things wrong with my previous post:

I was using the file from post 5, V13a_122713.zip, (V13a_122713.bin) which reads as SW Version: 20131213 aV13, NOT version 120113_V12_physical, as I stated in previous post.

rant

By the way, file 120113_V12_physical.bin reads as SW Version: 2013112 V12 on my iView-3500STB.

Is there a good reason why these files are named differently than they show up when flashed and read from menu if iView?

Why name a file V13a_122713.bin if it is 20131213 aV13? Isn't 1227 different than 1213? WTF?

fknwpejrkjsnvnsmrgsidfvomsonv. sepogrnipandofnaornfpoanrgnapongr,12984315n1kjbr987qdn3iuh

I think the alternative software names of monkey, doorway, skylight, etc. might be easier to follow.

I suppose my remote issues are due to my unit being an STB, not STBII.

/rant

The name of the files in post 5 is videobruce's naming, not iview's.

Your other post about the differences are all a result of your previously using original remote software and now using new remote software. You can always go back to using the original remote software if this version does not give you any additional benefits.
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I recently got the 3500STB to try and get the normal free channels through the cable connections in my apartment. I've tried a lot of the different updates and had the auto search run in Cable mode, but have yet to find any channels. Should I just go buy some antennas and go OTA, or am I missing something in the process for QAM?

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More than likely your free channels are analog which the iView won't tune, an antenna would work, that or you'd have to find a DVR with a analog tuner.

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Thanks for the info! I'll definitely be picking up some antennas today.
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I'm personally unconcerned about the numbering scheme.  However, I installed V13 on my STBII.  Quite happy with the variable menu transparency.

Scared to death this new FW is going to break something else.

So far, A-OK.  The red light even lights when the unit is off, and the green LED, when it's on.

Amazing!


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I'm personally unconcerned about the numbering scheme.  However, I installed V13 on my STBII.  Quite happy with the variable menu transparency.

Scared to death this new FW is going to break something else.

So far, A-OK.  The red light even lights when the unit is off, and the green LED, when it's on.

Amazing!

 

I too like the variable menu transparency of V13 and have loaded it on both of my iViews.  V13 firmware appears to work equally well on both the model 1 and model 2, at least for OTA.

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chazdole;
You could of saved yourself a lot of time by just reading post 5.

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Abundant OTA television is what makes this country different from all others. Lets keep it this way. If you like Wi-Fi so much, OTA fits right in. After all, it is wireless.
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Quick question. I only have OTA signal. Which one should I get to record my shows Iview or Homeworx. Is there a option to record in 3 different modes? Thanks!

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The iView cannot tune the NTSC (analog) channels that your ancient TV can tune. smile.gif

So I'm supposed to plug this directly into the wall outlet? I don't care about the premium channels, I just wan't the basic channels. Comcast broadcasts those un encrypted right, so it should be able to pick those up?
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So I'm supposed to plug this directly into the wall outlet? I don't care about the premium channels, I just wan't the basic channels. Comcast broadcasts those un encrypted right, so it should be able to pick those up?

If your ancient 20-year-old TV is picking up the channels straight off the Cable line then those channels are ANALOG. The iView will NOT tune analog channels.
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I guess I don't understand why that is. The coax line from my cable box plugs directly into my 20 year old tv, and gets a signal (on channel 3), if the iView can find a billion other channels, why can't it see this one? Are you saying it might work if I plug the iView direct into the wall outlet, and bypass the cable box all together?

And I don't see much cheaper ways to add DVR functionality, this little box only cost 30 bucks, AND it converts the coax to HDMI (another feature I want the iView for).

The Channel-3 output from your Cable Box is ANALOG. The IView will not tune it, even though your ancient 20-year-old TV can.

IF you connect directly to the Cable coming from your wall you will only be able to receive unencrypted channels. If you have Comcast you are probably SOL . . .

I believe it's time to Overthrow VerticalScope..
and Bring Back Huddler!

It's a shame that in the end TCU's playoff chances all came down to this . . .

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^ No I do actually need to use a cable box, the signal coming out of the wall is digital (I'm pretty sure there was a law passed years ago that says all cable signals must be digital).

The problem is, my cable box has no dvr, and no hdmi out, so that's why I thought the iView would help me.

So I just tried plugging the iView direct to my cable outlet, and it DID seem to find something when scanning. I let it run for like an hour, but when I came back, as I flip through the channels they all say 'scrambled'.

Has anyone else gotten this to work with basic comcast cable service? I didn't think they would scramble the basic channels... maybe there is some setting I am missing?
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You're probably not missing anything. Comcast has been scrambling all channels in more and more cities. Where are you located?

Joe's thread....

I believe it's time to Overthrow VerticalScope..
and Bring Back Huddler!

It's a shame that in the end TCU's playoff chances all came down to this . . .

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Located in Colorado Springs. Just called Comcast, and the guy I talked to was pretty sure they ARE being scrambled (even the basic channels), however he was not 100%. He did suggest I might be able to go to my local office and get a 'cable card', that would descramble the channels? Is that going to work with the iView? I'm guessing no.

Damnit... If this thing could just pick up the output signal AFTER it's run through the cable box, it would work PERFECT for my needs... Maybe there is some way to configure the comcast cable box (the basic motorola one you get with xfinity service), so it outputs a digital signal that the iView can digest?

*** ooooh, is THIS the one I should have gotten? Says it has analog pass through... thats what I need right?

http://www.amazon.com/3500STBII-Digital-Converter-Pass-Through-Capability/dp/B00GOILYB6/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1388519559&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=iveew+3500

only two bucks more... can anyone confirm this will do what I want?
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^ No I do actually need to use a cable box, the signal coming out of the wall is digital (I'm pretty sure there was a law passed years ago that says all cable signals must be digital).

The problem is, my cable box has no dvr, and no hdmi out, so that's why I thought the iView would help me.

So I just tried plugging the iView direct to my cable outlet, and it DID seem to find something when scanning. I let it run for like an hour, but when I came back, as I flip through the channels they all say 'scrambled'.

Has anyone else gotten this to work with basic comcast cable service? I didn't think they would scramble the basic channels... maybe there is some setting I am missing?
You don't need a cable box or an iView. You need a cable card tuner (Samsung, Tivo, Ceton, Silicon Dust).
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Located in Colorado Springs. Just called Comcast, and the guy I talked to was pretty sure they ARE being scrambled (even the basic channels), however he was not 100%. He did suggest I might be able to go to my local office and get a 'cable card', that would descramble the channels? Is that going to work with the iView? I'm guessing no.

Damnit... If this thing could just pick up the output signal AFTER it's run through the cable box, it would work PERFECT for my needs... Maybe there is some way to configure the comcast cable box (the basic motorola one you get with xfinity service), so it outputs a digital signal that the iView can digest?

*** ooooh, is THIS the one I should have gotten? Says it has analog pass through... thats what I need right?

http://www.amazon.com/3500STBII-Digital-Converter-Pass-Through-Capability/dp/B00GOILYB6/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1388519559&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=iveew+3500

only two bucks more... can anyone confirm this will do what I want?

No that box will not work. It's the same as the one you have with a different remote and power reconfig for the usb.

Analog passthrough means it will allow analog signals to pass through to the TV untouched. The iview does not do anything with them. It does not have an analog tuner period.

If your cable channels are analog, this box is useless to you for cable no matter what you do.
If your cable channels are scrambled, this box is useless to you for cable no matter what you do.
Again, like I said before, this box will not record anything from your cable box. It can only record what it tunes in itself.

Basic cable channels can be encrypted like anything else and more providers are choosing to go this route. If you think there is a chance some of your channels are not encrypted, then do a manual scan for those channels and you will find out.
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As others have said (and your own Comcast representative has confirmed), your cable feed is encrypted, which means you can only record your channels using one of the following methods:
  • Rent Comcast's DVR
  • Buy a TiVo and rent a CableCard for it
  • Build an HTPC with a HD HomeRun tuner and rent a CableCard for it
  • Buy a Magnavox HDD/DVD recorder to record the SD output of your cable box
  • Use a VCR to record the SD output of your cable box
  • Put a camcorder in front of your TV

The last two options are offered in jest, but technically they would work. wink.gif
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You don't need a cable box or an iView. You need a cable card tuner (Samsung, Tivo, Ceton, Silicon Dust).

I already have a cable box, which descrambles the signal. If I pass that signal to the 'analog passthrough' version of the iView, wont it be able to record it, and send it on to my tv via hdmi?

And my comcast office said they would rent me a 'cable card' for $1 a month, but im assuming its a actual 'card' that plugs in somewhere? So it wont work with the iView itself? But in any case, wont my above solution (wall -> cablebox -> analog passthrough iView -> TV), work just fine?
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I already have a cable box, which descrambles the signal. If I pass that signal to the 'analog passthrough' version of the iView, wont it be able to record it, and send it on to my tv via hdmi?

And my comcast office said they would rent me a 'cable card' for $1 a month, but im assuming its a actual 'card' that plugs in somewhere? So it wont work with the iView itself? But in any case, wont my above solution (wall -> cablebox -> analog passthrough iView -> TV), work just fine?

Repeating the question over and over is not going to change the answer. Like I told you when you first asked this and like I repeated just above, the iview WILL NOT record anything from your cable box. Period. Ever. It's impossible. Either buy something else or go without.
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Ok thanks, it's just kinda confusing for the product to say it supports analog passthrough, but not be able to record that very signal as its 'passing through'.

And what about the cable card mdavej suggested. How would that work?

Or assuming that also would not work, can anyone please recommend a box that converts coax to HDMI, and has dvr capabilities? Something around the same price as the iview (40 bucks) would be nice.

Thanks
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Ok thanks, it's just kinda confusing for the product to say it supports analog passthrough, but not be able to record that very signal as its 'passing through'.
And what about the cable card mdavej suggested. How would that work?
Or assuming that also would not work, can anyone please recommend a box that converts coax to HDMI, and has dvr capabilities? Something around the same price as the iview (40 bucks) would be nice.
Thanks

Pass-through means just that. In one connector, out the other. No stops, no processing, no nothing. Jus' passin' thru.

CableCards will work in a TiVo or other supporting devices. No $40 device will ever support CableCard.

Coax to HDMI is performed by a tuner. Adding DVR capabilties means you're talking about a TiVo. biggrin.gif

What you are looking for does not exist at anywhere near the lowball price you are looking to pay...

I'd like to buy a shiny new Mercedes with all the bells and whistles. Something around $500 would be nice . . . smile.gif

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So how much are we talking? Can you post any links?

I have an old tivo, but it does not have hdmi out...
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As I already said, you can rent a DVR from Comcast which has the lowest up-front cost. If you're going to subscribe for several years, eventually it will be more expensive than the other options. The second cheapest option is to buy a TiVo HD with lifetime on eBay, which would probably cost around $300. You just need to check the listing carefully to make sure that it already has a lifetime subscription to the TiVo guide service associated with it.

The HTPC route would probably cost < $500 if you selected the cheapest parts necessary to make it work, but it requires much more time to configure. Both the TiVo and HTPC routes require you to pay that $1 fee to Comcast to rent a CableCard. If you get Comcast's DVR, the monthly fee will probably be higher than renting just the CableCard.
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You would think there'd be a simple box that does not require any service/subscription fees. All I want is to be able to pause/rewind whatever channel I am currently viewing. I dont care about scheduling shows/times/channels, etc...

The reason I jumped on this iView is that Amazon had it listed as Digital Converter Box that also records! It had coax in and hdmi out, and thats exactly what I needed. Alas, it was not meant to be.

There must be some cheap way record/pause/rewind live tv (and hopefully convert coax to hdmi at the same time).

** ok I guess what I want is a "PVR"? Not a DVR? Just to recap, it needs to take the coax output from my cable box, convert it to hdmi, and allow me to 'time shift' whatever channel I am currently watching. I Searched for PVR on amazon, but I am afraid of buying the wrong thing again, so any help appreciated!
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You would think there'd be a simple box that does not require any service/subscription fees. All I want is to be able to pause/rewind whatever channel I am currently viewing. I dont care about scheduling shows/times/channels, etc...

The reason I jumped on this iView is that Amazon had it listed as Digital Converter Box that also records! It had coax in and hdmi out, and thats exactly what I needed. Alas, it was not meant to be.

There must be some cheap way record/pause/rewind live tv (and hopefully convert coax to hdmi at the same time).

** ok I guess what I want is a "PVR"? Not a DVR? Just to recap, it needs to take the coax output from my cable box, convert it to hdmi, and allow me to 'time shift' whatever channel I am currently watching. I Searched for PVR on amazon, but I am afraid of buying the wrong thing again, so any help appreciated!

THERE IS NOT.

You are dealing with encrypted channels from your CableCo. There is no cheap easy way to decrypt the signal. PERIOD.

I believe it's time to Overthrow VerticalScope..
and Bring Back Huddler!

It's a shame that in the end TCU's playoff chances all came down to this . . .

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V13a_122713.zip -- does anyone know if this firmware resolves the issue of some video channels being incorrectly identified as 'music' channels -- making them unable to be watched?

I ask rather than try it simply because I can't. I returned my 3500STBII as none of the firmware versions prior to this could allow me to identify and subsequently watch several local major network channels. Even with the 'best' of the 'physical' versions of firmware, some video channels would still wind up in the 'music' bucket -- so I returned it while I still could. If this firmware fixes that -- and puts everything in the 'video' bucket -- I will eat crow with my vendor and buy-back another one!

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You would think there'd be a simple box that does not require any service/subscription fees. All I want is to be able to pause/rewind whatever channel I am currently viewing. I dont care about scheduling shows/times/channels, etc...

The reason I jumped on this iView is that Amazon had it listed as Digital Converter Box that also records! It had coax in and hdmi out, and thats exactly what I needed. Alas, it was not meant to be.

There must be some cheap way record/pause/rewind live tv (and hopefully convert coax to hdmi at the same time).

** ok I guess what I want is a "PVR"? Not a DVR? Just to recap, it needs to take the coax output from my cable box, convert it to hdmi, and allow me to 'time shift' whatever channel I am currently watching. I Searched for PVR on amazon, but I am afraid of buying the wrong thing again, so any help appreciated!

Call your cable company back. Ask them what offers they have for you to change your present cable box to one of their dvr's.

In all the information you have outlined about your situation in all your posts, that would be your cheapest solution. EVERYTHING else is going to cost you several hundred dollars minimum.

Pay tv providers in the USA have a pretty good lock on their content, and they don't want a simple, cheap, and easy 2nd party solution for end-users. They want to be paid, over and over again, and that's what they work towards always.
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V13a_122713.zip -- does anyone know if this firmware resolves the issue of some video channels being incorrectly identified as 'music' channels -- making them unable to be watched?

I ask rather than try it simply because I can't. I returned my 3500STBII as none of the firmware versions prior to this could allow me to identify and subsequently watch several local major network channels. Even with the 'best' of the 'physical' versions of firmware, some video channels would still wind up in the 'music' bucket -- so I returned it while I still could. If this firmware fixes that -- and puts everything in the 'video' bucket -- I will eat crow with my vendor and buy-back another one!

Thanks, Clay

I would not expect a change in that. Since that is specific to your situation no one can tell you for certain, but there is no reason to believe there would be any change. My OTA scanning did not improve on this FW. Same old bugs and same reception. You may be getting weak signal on those channels through the iview. I know on some of my weaker stations when there is weather interference they become audio only.
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ok I guess what I want is a "PVR"? Not a DVR? Just to recap, it needs to take the coax output from my cable box, convert it to hdmi, and allow me to 'time shift' whatever channel I am currently watching. I Searched for PVR on amazon, but I am afraid of buying the wrong thing again, so any help appreciated!
There is an almost what you're asking for device discussed in a thread and help pages here that's been going on for years. Magnavox makes DVRs that sell on walmart.com and elsewhere in the $200-$300 range. Technically these DVRs can take coax input from cable box coax output, but not in the fashion you're asking for. What that coax output would be is a loop-through that the DVR could use to tune anything on the cable in NTSC analog or in clear QAM, but nothing that the cable box has already tuned.

Most cable boxes have analog outputs, red and white RCA jacks for sound, and yellow RCA for video. If your rented Comcast cable box does not have such outputs, you should get it exchanged by Comcast for one that does. Bad as many consider that connection type to be, it's far superior than any tuned (decrypted) A/V output you might ever be able to get via coax. Then you can connect those outputs to a DVR's inputs, and output from the DVR to the TV using an HDMI cable.

The Magnavox DVRs automatically record whatever input has been selected for a 6 hour FIFO period in which recorded programming older than 6 hours is by default forever lost. The whole 6 hour period is available via the same type controls as on any VCR or DVD or Bluray player. The device allows whatever is in the record buffer to be permanently saved to its HD, which can later be saved to DVD if desired. Its recording buffer is only interrupted when the DVR is powered down, used for a manual or timer recording, when editing a previously made recording, or when copying a recording between its HD and a DVD. IOW, the Magnavox DVR is good for recording anything (with limited exceptions caused by DRM) the Comcast box can output to a red/white/yellow cable, whether it was ever encrypted or not.

Note that Magnavox DVR output is only SD, but its output is adjustable to fit the aspect ratio of your TV, so at least in theory, most Comcast programming should be viewable in a mode that fills your 16:9 HDTV screen just like a HDMI cable directly from cable box to TV would. Many cable boxes only output HD channels to the yellow connector in letterbox mode. You want Comcast to give you one that doesn't have that limitation in order to prevent unnecessary letterboxing and the consequent loss of quality apparent when hiding most of the black borders via aspect controls on your TV.

Even if you cannot get Comcast to rent you a suitable box, there do exist relatively cheap (~$40 & up) devices that can convert HDMI output to input that a DVR or VCR can record, and others that can multiply HDMI output into more than one path.

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