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well damn. guess i'll just go kick a can outside for fun
What do you mean by "as an antenna won't work in my situation?"

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i'm in the "dead zone" as far as ota channels. this pretty much kills me getting anything like the channel master dvr+ correct?

i refuse to give in to the over priced shenanigans of paying for receivers and hd and dvr. what are my options as an antenna won't work in my situation? is the tivo reliant on ota as well?
Your options are cable FIOS or satellite.
Satellite is a closed system -- you use their equipment.

Cable & FIOS can be used with 3rd party cablecard devices. You rent the cablecard from your provider and pay any additional fees they will charge you for having an extra device on their line and HD fees etc.
  • TiVo is the only 3rd party stand alone DVR on the market with cable card support.
  • Your second option is to build/buy a HTPC with a cablecard tuner (Silicon Dust or Ceton) and running Windows Media Center as your DVR software. WMC is your only option because it is currently the only DVR software that supports the DRM required for cablecard certification.

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im sure in 4316 posts its been mentioned numerous times, but like many i'm in the "dead zone" as far as ota channels. this pretty much kills me getting anything like the channel master dvr+ correct?

i refuse to give in to the over priced shenanigans of paying for receivers and hd and dvr. what are my options as an antenna won't work in my situation? is the tivo reliant on ota as well?
May I ask your zipcode?
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Remote Issue For Loyldsocal

It may be as simple as your remote could be having problems communicating if you have your DVR+ close to the TV's IR receiver and the TV picture settings are on for automatically adjusting the picture according to the room lighting.

Try looking at your TV settings as the issue and the location of your DVR+ relative to your TV's IR sensors.

A simple change to settings may be all you need.
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well damn. guess i'll just go kick a can outside for fun
I'm about 65 miles north of Bakersfield stations and 65 miles south of Fresno stations. I put a rotator on a tall mast that is attached to my chimney, and on there I put a highly directional antenna. I pick up every station within about 100 miles.
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I am about 10 to 20 miles from my locals, both full power and low power and I am using a Channel Master 3671 and I get everything except a. LD station on Lo-VHF channel 6 that none of my digitsl tuners will decode. I do get a full power Hi-VHF from a different market that is 63.3 miles away... I have no issues with the tuner...

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I'm about 65 miles north of Bakersfield stations and 65 miles south of Fresno stations. I put a rotator on a tall mast that is attached to my chimney, and on there I put a highly directional antenna. I pick up every station within about 100 miles.
So .... for scheduled recordings you have to manually aim the antenna at either Bakersfield or Fresno ahead of time? Seems kind of cumbersome.
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Most external USB hard drive will be compatible but Channel Master has thoroughly tested and recommends five different Seagate Models; 500 GB (STCD500102), 1 TB (STBU1000100), 1 TB (STBX1000101), 3 TB (STCA3000101), and 3 TB (STBV3000100).

Hello to all, newbie here. I've been following this thread for a while since I'm getting tired of buying a new TIVO every 4 years when mine goes belly up and I can't transfer the lifetime subscription to the next TIVO. I'm considering buying the DVR+ so I'm looking at the hard drives and finally have a question worth bothering you guys with. I actually have a second question regarding a specific antenna for the OTA channels in my viewing area but I'll make that question separate from this one to keep it simple.

My question is what's the difference between the two 1TB models that they have tested? They're both 1TB so is one model newer technology than the other?
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Most external USB hard drive will be compatible but Channel Master has thoroughly tested and recommends five different Seagate Models; 500 GB (STCD500102), 1 TB (STBU1000100), 1 TB (STBX1000101), 3 TB (STCA3000101), and 3 TB (STBV3000100).

Hello to all, newbie here. I've been following this thread for a while since I'm getting tired of buying a new TIVO every 4 years when mine goes belly up and I can't transfer the lifetime subscription to the next TIVO. I'm considering buying the DVR+ so I'm looking at the hard drives and finally have a question worth bothering you guys with. I actually have a second question regarding a specific antenna for the OTA channels in my viewing area but I'll make that question separate from this one to keep it simple.

My question is what's the difference between the two 1TB models that they have tested? They're both 1TB so is one model newer technology than the other?
I'm just curious what's a purpose of your question ? What answers will do for you ?
...you don't know difference... OK, then why:
- you didn't search descriptions of both devices in Internet
- you didn't compare specs, prices, availability ...
- you don't trust the company who did "thoroughly tested" ?

If you are a true pilot, then the post is represent you badly.
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Most external USB hard drive will be compatible but Channel Master has thoroughly tested and recommends five different Seagate Models; 500 GB (STCD500102), 1 TB (STBU1000100), 1 TB (STBX1000101), 3 TB (STCA3000101), and 3 TB (STBV3000100).

Hello to all, newbie here. I've been following this thread for a while since I'm getting tired of buying a new TIVO every 4 years when mine goes belly up and I can't transfer the lifetime subscription to the next TIVO. I'm considering buying the DVR+ so I'm looking at the hard drives and finally have a question worth bothering you guys with. I actually have a second question regarding a specific antenna for the OTA channels in my viewing area but I'll make that question separate from this one to keep it simple.

My question is what's the difference between the two 1TB models that they have tested? They're both 1TB so is one model newer technology than the other?
There doesn't appear to be much difference. The STBU1000100 comes with a 2 year warranty and is available in four different colors. It's sells for $74.95 at Bestbuy.com. The STBX1000101 has a 1 year warrantly and is available only in Black. It's sells for $64.99 at BestBuy.com.
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There doesn't appear to be much difference. The STBU1000100 comes with a 2 year warranty and is available in four different colors. It's sells for $74.95 at Bestbuy.com. The STBX1000101 has a 1 year warrantly and is available only in Black. It's sells for $64.99 at BestBuy.com.
How do you know that?
Where did you look it up?

I think that was P. Smith's point.

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I'm just curious what's a purpose of your question ? What answers will do for you ?
...you don't know difference... OK, then why:
- you didn't search descriptions of both devices in Internet
- you didn't compare specs, prices, availability ...
Kind of harsh, IMO. Most non-computer-tech-types wouldn't understand what (probably minor) differences in technical specifications mean.

pilot135pd, I wouldn't concern myself overly about it. If you're a believer in what CM recommends: Then buy one of the ones they recommend. Personally: I prefer WD over Seagate, so I bought a WD My Passport Ultra drive.

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well, then I will say - his question was harsh. Sorta: gimme-gimme, you are should do legwork for me.
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I'm just curious what's a purpose of your question ? What answers will do for you ?
...you don't know difference... OK, then why:
- you didn't search descriptions of both devices in Internet
- you didn't compare specs, prices, availability ...
- you don't trust the company who did "thoroughly tested" ?

If you are a true pilot, then the post is represent you badly.
Wow, didn't expect that level of hostility. Let's answer your questions:

- you didn't search descriptions of both devices in Internet -- I DID and didn't find the difference so I asked here.
- you didn't compare specs, prices, availability ... I found different prices, availability everything. That wasn't my question
- you don't trust the company who did "thoroughly tested" ? I totally trust the company, I didn't ask that either.

I just asked if there was a TECHNICAL difference in those 2 models.

BTW yes I'm a pilot and have been around for many years. 21 Years US Air Force from where I retired then moved onto regional airlines for a year then finally the last 8 years have been flying air ambulance helicopters in 3 different countries including now in Texas. You must be a peach to wake up to.
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well, then I will say - his question was harsh. Sorta: gimme-gimme, you are should do legwork for me.
If you knew me you would never say that since one of my pet peeves is the gimme generation. I've been researching the DVR replacement for my TIVO for years and the HD for the DVR+ for about 3 days and just today have been all over it for at least 4 hours so don't be so quick to judge. If my post was so offensive to you all you had to do was ignore it, simple. That's all I have to say about this.
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To all the other members who took a minute of their lives to write helpful positive posts, I thank you.
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OK,OK,OK ... I got it now.
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Most external USB hard drive will be compatible but Channel Master has thoroughly tested and recommends five different Seagate Models; 500 GB (STCD500102), 1 TB (STBU1000100), 1 TB (STBX1000101), 3 TB (STCA3000101), and 3 TB (STBV3000100).

Hello to all, newbie here. I've been following this thread for a while since I'm getting tired of buying a new TIVO every 4 years when mine goes belly up and I can't transfer the lifetime subscription to the next TIVO. I'm considering buying the DVR+ so I'm looking at the hard drives and finally have a question worth bothering you guys with. I actually have a second question regarding a specific antenna for the OTA channels in my viewing area but I'll make that question separate from this one to keep it simple.

My question is what's the difference between the two 1TB models that they have tested? They're both 1TB so is one model newer technology than the other?

I don't know for sure but it could be that one has a power supply and the other gets its power through the USB.
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How do you know that?
Where did you look it up?

I think that was P. Smith's point.
1. Specifications at Seagate.com:

STBU1000100: http://www.seagate.com/external-hard...D8AN5000#specs

STBX1000101: http://www.seagate.com/external-hard...X1000101#specs

2. Product Information at Bestbuy.com:
STBU1000100: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-...=buyingOptions

STBX1000101: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-...0101&cp=1&lp=1

3. As you can see from the specifications both are very similar in size and both are powered by the USB interface.

4. I appreciate how difficult it can be to "just look it up yourself" on the internet, so I took to the trouble to do the necessary research and get the facts as best I could. I just didn't have time to document it all in the original post.
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oh man !
there is the DIFFERENCE !!!
the weight:
.224kg vs 0.17 kg

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1. Specifications at Seagate.com:

STBU1000100: http://www.seagate.com/external-hard...D8AN5000#specs

STBX1000101: http://www.seagate.com/external-hard...X1000101#specs

2. Product Information at Bestbuy.com:
STBU1000100: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-...=buyingOptions

STBX1000101: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-...0101&cp=1&lp=1

3. As you can see from the specifications both are very similar in size and both are powered by the USB interface.

4. I appreciate how difficult it can be to "just look it up yourself" on the internet, so I took to the trouble to do the necessary research and get the facts as best I could. I just didn't have time to document it all in the original post.
Thank you. I just noticed something that I hadn't noticed in my previous search and thanks to your links I noticed it.
In my original post I asked "My question is what's the difference between the two 1TB models that they have tested? They're both 1TB so is one model newer technology than the other? "

Even though I still haven't been able to get an answer to that, and since I'm not an electrical engineer or anything like that just a simple pilot, your link showed me that Seagate doesn't have any of the STBU drives available and has all of the STBX drives so I'm going to use that to end this purchase decision by taking a wild guess and maybe the STBUs that are still being sold by others are new old stock and the STBX is the newer version and maybe even newer technology since it weighs half as much in the same size box

Thanks again Sandman and others.
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oh man !
there is the DIFFERENCE !!!
the weight:
.224kg vs 0.17 kg

Yes, about 8 ounces vs 6 ounces.
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Thank you. I just noticed something that I hadn't noticed in my previous search and thanks to your links I noticed it.
In my original post I asked "My question is what's the difference between the two 1TB models that they have tested? They're both 1TB so is one model newer technology than the other? "

Even though I still haven't been able to get an answer to that, and since I'm not an electrical engineer or anything like that just a simple pilot, your link showed me that Seagate doesn't have any of the STBU drives available and has all of the STBX drives so I'm going to use that to end this purchase decision by taking a wild guess and maybe the STBUs that are still being sold by others are new old stock and the STBX is the newer version and maybe even newer technology since it weighs half as much in the same size box

Thanks again Sandman and others.
I suspect that you're correct. I purchased the STBU1000100 in March 2014. About a month ago, I did a search for the STBU1000100 to see about buying another one, as a backup. Almost nobody had them in stock, whereas the STBX1000101 could be found all over the Web. Additionally, for a 1TB drive, ChannelMaster originally listed only the STBU1000100. The STBX1000101 is a relatively recent addition to their recommended list of drives.
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Thank you. I just noticed something that I hadn't noticed in my previous search and thanks to your links I noticed it.
In my original post I asked "My question is what's the difference between the two 1TB models that they have tested? They're both 1TB so is one model newer technology than the other? "

Even though I still haven't been able to get an answer to that, and since I'm not an electrical engineer or anything like that just a simple pilot, your link showed me that Seagate doesn't have any of the STBU drives available and has all of the STBX drives so I'm going to use that to end this purchase decision by taking a wild guess and maybe the STBUs that are still being sold by others are new old stock and the STBX is the newer version and maybe even newer technology since it weighs half as much in the same size box

Thanks again Sandman and others.
I would guess that the STBX is newer, but I doubt there is a significant different between the two, other than one is available in colors and includes an additional year of warranty for about $10 more in cost. I've bought a number of USB powered drives over the last couple of years including several Seagate and Western Digital drives. Every time I look for a new one there seems to be a different selection of models available.
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just to share EE's experience ...

don't relay to the retail model IDs; same HDD in different cases will have different SKU like the letters what you discuss;

always look inside, if not literally then by programs like GSmartControl
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