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post #91 of 851 Old 08-27-2013, 01:28 PM
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I'm definitely interested in a move to Tivo now that they have six tuners, however, that move is on hold until Cablevision gets the right CableCard specs. Apparently if your cable company doesn't have the correct specs only four of the tuners will be available. Cablevision's head of technology said "We're in the process of testing and qualifying the latest code."
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Yep, there are many reports of SA cards on Comcast not having the correct firmware to support 6 tuners too, this is going to be ugly for Tivo if it doesn't get resolved for the Roamios soon. Looks like most if not all of the Moto cards are ok. I've seen some people say that even though you can configure a Plus or Pro to only use 4 tuners (via a backdoor remote code) they will have random tuner issues causing failed recordings, which is not acceptable.

This is definitely something to keep an eye on if you want a Roamio, depending on your provider and card supplier.
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I decided to punt since most of my recordings can be downloaded again.

http://www.amazon.com/WD-AV-GP-Video-Hard-Drive/dp/B0042AG9V8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377702749&sr=8-1&keywords=AV-gp+2tb

WD AV-GP 2 TB AV Video Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, SATA II, 64 MB Cache - WD20EURS

Ordered that overnight for $102 for internal install. I will send back the DVR Expander and save a little $$$.

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Good idea, I would never use an expander on a Tivo because you double the chance of a failure taking all your recordings.
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Yeah, that whole splitting thing is stupid. Since you just have to swap the drives now and it does the rest, why not do it. Either have to do it now before fall season gets crazy, or wait until I clear it again, and who knows when that would be.

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I will send back the DVR Expander and save a little $$$.

Smart...not only do you save the cash but you decrease the chance of losing all your recordings by a factor of one. I had a DVR Expander plugged into my TiVo HD since the day I set it up, and this past Spring the DVR Expander failed and I lost everything.

The internal drive is still chugging along perfectly.

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Agreed. It's also one less thing to worry about (esata cable getting knocked loose when the wife cleans, etc...).

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I just ordered a Roamio (Base) yesterday.

Looking forward to a zippy interface and 4 tuners.
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Smart...not only do you save the cash but you decrease the chance of losing all your recordings by a factor of one. I had a DVR Expander plugged into my TiVo HD since the day I set it up, and this past Spring the DVR Expander failed and I lost everything.

The internal drive is still chugging along perfectly.
How long did yours last? I plugged a 500GB expander in my TiVo HD the day I bought it because I didn't want to crack the case to replace the internal drive and void the warranty. I figured I would do that once the expander died -- that was 4.5 yr ago. The expander and the original 160GB internal are still running fine. I think the key to expander longevity is keeping it well ventilated.

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Yeah, that whole splitting thing is stupid. Since you just have to swap the drives now and it does the rest, why not do it. Either have to do it now before fall season gets crazy, or wait until I clear it again, and who knows when that would be.
Please let us know if your experience of swapping out the internal drive is as easy as has been implied.

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IMO, the dvr expander line is pretty durable as well because they also use AV-GP drives. The normal my books use green drives. But by reducing yourself to one drive you arent reliant on two lasting several years, but the one could just as easily fail.

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How long did yours last?

My DVR Expander functioned perfectly from June 2009 until Fall 2012 when it started freezing and failing during new recordings. The problem steadily got worse until early Spring 2013 when I pulled eSata cord on the Expander as one of my last ditch troubleshooting efforts. Turns out it was a good gamble. I lost all of my past recordings, but at least I regained new recording functionality.

I've got decent ventilation in my AV closet...not great...but decent.

I've read plenty of anecdotal reports that the Western Digital DVR Expanders are prone to early failure.

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I've read plenty of anecdotal reports that the Western Digital DVR Expanders are prone to early failure.
As did I, which is why I figured it would have died soon after the TiVo warranty expired and I could then replace the internal drive. Its been running 24x7 since Jan 2009. I'll probably plug it into the Roamio when I finally get one.

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I'll probably plug it into the Roamio when I finally get one.

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Im going to go ahead and clear the drives off my Roamio when I get home so I can pack the Expander back up and work on removing the old drive from the Roamio. Ill post some pics, then the AV-GP should be installed tomorrow afternoon. I dont have anything to record tonight with it, so might as well get it ready.

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The OP on the following link has a few pictures and graphics on replacing the stock HDD on a Roamio Basic. You'll need a Torx 8 and 10, FYI.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=507695
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The OP on the following link has a few pictures and graphics on replacing the stock battery on a Roamio Basic. You'll need a Torx 8 and 10, FYI.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=507695

You mean it's not rechargeable? biggrin.gif

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You mean it's not rechargeable? biggrin.gif

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Sadly none of the BestBuy's in my area seem to carry anoy of the new Tivo Roamio units.
I was looking forward to going into a BestBuy and see a demo setup......

Saw a stack of the base units at a local Best Buy today. Don't think there was any demo setup.
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Some pics. Wasn't hard at all, will be ready to go for the 2TB AV-GP drive tomorrow.

Back of case, just take out screw over esata connector


I started at the back, right in the middle, and worked my fingers in. Keep sliding back and forth across the back slowly working the cover up. Once you get around on the sides of the plastic cover and the back is free, it'll just pop right off. Did not have to use much power at all.




Plate with drive just has 3 screws and comes right out. If you have ever installed drives in a PC before, it's that easy.


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I thought someone had mentioned that the base Roamio had a fan. I guess I'm not seeing it? confused.gif

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I thought someone had mentioned that the base Roamio had a fan. I guess I'm not seeing it? confused.gif

it is there, between the motherboard and HDD
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Look at the 4th picture, in the blank area where the HDD was, left of the heatsink and battery. Has small twisted red and black power wires. You are looking down at top of it so it is thin. It either blows across heat sink or pulls air off it. Id guess it pulls off HDD and blows across heatsink to side vents.

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New 2TB drive is in, going through 1st call in and download now.



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There ya go

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There used to be a lot of jabber about voiding your warranty if you swap out the drives (not that it ever stopped us), but I haven't heard anyone mention that regarding Roamio. I assume that is still the case.
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It does per their user agreement. That being said, there is not label or sticker you have to break.

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But the problem is that Tivo knows by your box's logs that the drive was upgraded, so they can (and have) denied warranty support for some of them. According to posts from users at TCF that have upgraded drives, that is. Even if you swap the old drive back before calling, they have a record of it being changed before.

So you can either take the chance the box won't break before warranty is up (that's what I do) or wait until it expires before doing the upgrade. It's a tougher decision if you opt for their extended warranty, and if I wanted to do that (I don't) I'd probably spend the extra to get the Pro with the 3TB drive.
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Yeah, its a gamble, one I used to chicken away from in the past admittedly. I kinda dont care at this point in my life, i need the space and I need it now. smile.gif

It's rare once I get one filling, that I empty it.

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Any more reviews from those who have recently received a base Roamio?

My old DVR has failed and my choices, after reading some of the other threads, appear to be the Roamio now, or settling for streaming until the Channel Master K77 is really available and seeing if it is any good. All the other choices sound a little flakey.
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