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I think it is appropriate to start a new thread on this since there is enough information now known about its features to know it is real and its release is projected as "soon".

Channel Master CM-7500 (a.k.a. Channel Master DVR+)
I have come across some information about the upcoming Channel Master CM-7500. The source is a cold contact, unknown to me, however, after repeated communications I am convinced of their credibility and of the validity of the information I'm receiving. So, I post the information here and will update it as more comes in that I'm allowed to post. I believe it to be factual.

Model name = CM-7500
Made by Echostar, sold by Channel Master
Targeted released date = 12/2/2013 (in reality, not until Q1 2014)
Keep an eye on the Channel Master Store Web site.
A purchase list of the CM-7500 and accessories appeared briefly on the CM-store web-site. When they realized it was there they took it down, however wiscojim had the foresight to archive it and posted a copy of the page -- reproduced in post #2.

There are two models being proposed:
  • Lower end with 16GB internal storage and no HDD (CM-7500GB16, $250)
  • Higher end model with internal HDD; size = TBD (CM-7500GB320)
  • Both models accept an external USB HDD to expand storage -- at least 3TB
  • The CM-7500GB16 will be released first

Common to both models:
  • 1 ethernet port
    2 USB ports (all on rear)
  • wireless adapter can be separately purchased and used in a USB port.
  • IR extender can be purchased to allow hiding the CM-7500
  • Two ATSC tuners for OTA-HDTV
  • No clear QAM tuners, no cable card -- that is definite
  • PSIP guide if not connected to Internet
  • 14 day guide service (Rovi) from Internet - no information, yet, on whether it is free or yearly subscription
  • Support for Internet streaming services
    Only supported streaming service, so far = VuDu -- likely that more will be added before release

OS = Linux
  • An external HDD is formatted when it is plugged in
  • Unknown if external HDD can be read by a Linux box or a PC with a Linux file system driver
  • Recording file format is unknown and whether or not they are encrypted or can be played by external players
  • Unknown if recordings can be transferred off the external HDD


The Rovi guide has me scratching my head -- I didn't think their Internet guide for HDTV's went much beyond 3 days. This must be something different.

Until we have screen shots of the UI we can't say if this is going to be more similar to the original DTV Pal DVR/CM-7000 than the CM-7400
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Appeared for a very short time on the Channel Master Store website until they realized it was there and took it down as being premature. fortunately wiscojim archived it.

Infra-Red Extender for CM-7500 DVR | Channel Master (CM-7500XIR)
Our Price: $24.99


The CM-7500XIR Infra-red extender cable allows you to 'extend' the reach of the IR receptor of the CM-7500 DVR increasing the area of operation for the CM-7500 DVR remote control. Using the IR extender also allows you to place the DVR in a hidden or more discrete location where the small IR extender would be in view for the remote to send operating signals to. As long as there is a line-of-sight between the remote and the IR extender you will be able to control every function of the DVR.

Features Summary:
* Increase CM-7500 remote range
* Gives option to place DVR in hidden space while only exposing the IR extender
* Plug and play easy installation
* Top quality performance
* 72 inches long


Wireless USB Adapter for CM-7500 DVR | Channel Master (CM-7500XWF)
Our Price: $39.99


The Channel Master CM-7500XWF Wi-Fi adapter allows you to enjoy the internet applications and enhanced program guide on the CM-7500 DVR wirelessly. This is a perfect solution if you're unable to run a direct Ethernet cable from your router / modem into the DVR or if you simply prefer reducing the amount of cords connecting to your DVR.

Features Summary:
* Enables Wireless internet connector on the CM-7500 DVR
* Easily plugs in via USB
* Speed: Up to 300mbps
* Interface: USB 2.0
* Frequency: 2.4GHz


CM-7500 compatible Seagate Backup Plus 500 GB USB 3.0 Desktop External Hard Drive
Our Price: $69.99


The Seagate portable external hard drive works with Channel Master CM-7500 DVR which allows you to record and store TV programming directly to this hard drive. This hard drive features 500 GB of storage and conveniently plugs into the DVR through USB port. This hard drive can also be used as backup hard drive for other storage applications

* Compatible with Channel Master CM-7500 DVR
* 500 GB storage capacity
* Can be used for many other backup and storage applications
* Interchangeably load files on your PC or your Mac computer without reformatting
* Dimensions: 4.47" x 2.99" x 0.38"
* Weight: 0.33 lbs.
* Color: Black
* Interface: USB 3.0

This product includes:
* Seagate slim drive
* Seagate Dashboard Software (pre-loaded on drive)
* NTFS Driver for Mac (pre-loaded on drive)
* 18in. USB 3.0 Cable
* Quick Start Guide
* Two-Year Limited Warranty


CM-7500 compatible Seagate Backup Plus 1 TB USB 3.0 Portable External Hard Drive
Our Price: $94.99


The Seagate portable external hard drive works with Channel Master CM-7500 DVR which allows you to record and store TV programming directly to this hard drive. This hard drive features 1 TB of storage and conveniently plugs into the DVR through USB port. This hard drive can also be used as backup hard drive for other storage applications

* Compatible with Channel Master CM-7500 DVR
* 1 TB storage capacity,Spindle Speed 5400 RPM
* Can be used for many other backup and storage applications
* Interchangeably load files on your PC or your Mac computer without reformatting
* Dimensions: 4.86" x 3.19" x 0.57"
* Weight: 0.44 lbs.
* Color: Black
* Interface: USB 3.0

This product includes:
* Seagate Backup Plus Portable Drive
* Seagate Dashboard Software (pre-loaded on drive)
* NTFS Driver for Mac (pre-loaded on drive)
* USB 3.0 Interface Adapter
* 18in. USB 3.0 Cable - also backward compatible with USB 2.0.
* Quick Start Guide
* Two-Year Limited Warranty


CM-7500 compatible Seagate Backup Plus 3 TB USB 3.0 Desktop External Hard Drive
Our Price: $124.99


The Seagate portable external hard drive works with Channel Master CM-7500 DVR which allows you to record and store TV programming directly to this hard drive. This hard drive features 3 TB of storage and conveniently plugs into the DVR through USB port. This hard drive can also be used as backup hard drive for other storage applications

* Compatible with Channel Master CM-7500 DVR
* 3 TB storage capacity,Spindle Speed 5400 RPM
* Can be used for many other backup and storage applications
* Interchangeably load files on your PC or your Mac computer without reformatting
* Dimensions: 6.22" x 4.88" x 1.73"
* Weight: 2.38 lbs.
* Color: Black
* Interface: USB 3.0 - also backward compatible with USB 2.0.

This product includes:
* Seagate Backup Plus Portable Drive
* Seagate Dashboard Software (pre-loaded on drive)
* NTFS Driver for Mac (pre-loaded on drive)
* USB 3.0 Interface Adapter
* 18in. USB 3.0 Cable
* Quick Start Guide
* Two-Year Limited Warranty


Subscription Free Digital / HD Antenna DVR | Dual Tuner - Channel Master CM-7500
Our Price: $249.99


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3 Year Warranty plan for CM-7001 / CM-7500
Our Price: $28.99


Enjoy added comfort and protection with the 3 year warranty plan offered by Warrantech which increases the warranty period of your product in the event your unit is rendered inoperable due to a mechanical or electrical failure during the 3 year time frame of this agreement.

If your product defects during the 3 year period, Warrantech will either replace the product with a new or refurbished unit with equal or greater features and functionality.

You will receive a hard copy service plan card which includes registration number and additional information, this will ship with your unit. To review the service agreement details, please click here

This extended warranty agreement is only eligible for new purchases of the Channel Master CM-7001. It will also be eligible on the new Channel Master DVR which is expected to hit shelves early 2014.

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It appears as if the CM-7500 is in final testing stages by EchoStar, and firmware adjustments are being made. Hopefully it can be predominantly bug free prior to release. Perhaps the user interface will be more similar to the 7400, but the internal build and design more of an updated 7000/Pal style. With a good tuner and no overheating issues. We shall see if the Dec. 2 target date is met for release, or if it will be pushed back to Jan. or after the first of the year.
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  • Higher end model with internal HDD; size = TBD (CM-7500GB320)
size is TBD? Isn't GB320 suggest of the size of the internal disk?


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You would think that. But according to my source all the work is being done on the GB16 model to get it out the door. No one has seen a GB320. It may come 6 months later with a larger HDD or not at all depending on the market conditions.

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After the CM-7400 QAM-Channels nightmare it'll be interesting to see how well this one passes muster. Or mustard. Muster would be better, eh?
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It appears as if the CM-7500 is in final testing stages by EchoStar, and firmware adjustments are being made. Hopefully it can be predominantly bug free prior to release. Perhaps the user interface will be more similar to the 7400, but the internal build and design more of an updated 7000/Pal style. With a good tuner and no overheating issues. We shall see if the Dec. 2 target date is met for release, or if it will be pushed back to Jan. or after the first of the year.
December 2 has come and gone. Any hope this will be available before Christmas?


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Any hope this will be available before Christmas?
Unknown.
The only thing that is known is that the product is real, software testing is near the end, it will be released after testing is done. Trying to predict a date has a good chance of being wrong -- that being said it doesn't look like it will ship before Q1/14.

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Channel Master's twitter account says to "check back with us in a week". So maybe next week.... I'm in no real rush - my DTVPal DVR is still kicking butt. PSIP time is spot on for me. smile.gif

https://twitter.com/ChannelMaster/status/410087854170050560
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and links to this...

http://hnduo.dfjpv.servertrust.com/Default.asp

which happens to be a week from when that post was made...
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This might be what finally gets me to cut the cord
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Well if it has been delayed from Dec. to Jan., I don't mind waiting a few more weeks for them to work out the bugs and get it right. Especially after the problems with the 7400 from a different manufacturer. Even the 7000 had a few issues at first, but was a much better box. And I will probably pass on the Philips model.
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Well if it has been delayed from Dec. to Jan., I don't mind waiting a few more weeks for them to work out the bugs and get it right. Especially after the problems with the 7400 from a different manufacturer. Even the 7000 had a few issues at first, but was a much better box. And I will probably pass on the Philips model.

Which Philips model is that?
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Which Philips model is that?

The Philips HDR5710/5750 I'm sure is the one.

Philips/Magnavox thread
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The Philips HDR5710/5750 I'm sure is the one.

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Have one of these on my pool table unopened waiting to be returned to Best Buy if when my k77 ships.


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Have one of these on my pool table unopened waiting to be returned to Best Buy if when my k77 ships.
You might want to return it before that, otherwise time may run out.

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You might want to return it before that, otherwise time may run out.

My 5710 got here on 12-4-13 6:30pm.
Started testing till 1:30 am had it packed up at 2:30 am.Took it to UPS at 8:45 am.12-5-2013
sent at 9:10am.Best Buy returned my money on 12-12-13 at 7:56 am.
7 days.....This time of the year is real busy!
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My 5710 got here on 12-4-13 6:30pm.
Started testing till 1:30 am had it packed up at 2:30 am.Took it to UPS at 8:45 am.12-5-2013
sent at 9:10am.Best Buy returned my money on 12-12-13 at 7:56 am.
7 days.....This time of the year is real busy!
Couldn't you have just taken it to a Best Buy store and returned it directly?
I thought they touted that as one of the benefits of ordering on line from them.

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Introducing the DVR+.

http://youtu.be/p_3BJVtuii4
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Yup, I got the email today officially announcing pre-orders for the DVR+. But I have questions.

* Does anybody know about the "enhanced multi-day program guide"? How many days? Who provides it? Is there a subscription for the guide?
* Also, it only comes with 16GB of flash memory, but you can upgrade to 80 hours of HD (which is what my CM7000 has, and is plenty for me.) I don't really understand what you get with just the flash memory - no storage? Seems like storage should be included.....
* You can also upgrade to a wireless USB adapter, which sounds pretty good, since it would enable the multi-day guide and some other stuff, but I'm wondering if it's true web searching or pre-loaded tabs like Netflix, Hulu, etc.
* I did notice that there isn't much space for a fan. I know others who have the CM7400 say that it runs way too hot. Any thoughts on this model?

If anybody here knows the answers, I'd love to hear! Thanks,

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Is another version with an internal hard drive being offered or can the 16GB of flash memory be upgraded?
Being so thin doesn't bode too well for an internal hard drive...

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Introducing the DVR+.

http://youtu.be/p_3BJVtuii4

As an owner of the original DTV Pal looking to replace it I have a few questions.
* Does it use USB 3.0?
* Will both models discussed above look identical?

I hope the single button is a power button. That way when it locks up I won't have to rip the cord from the socket and plug it back in.

Anybody else notice it's "working" in the video without a power cord or the antenna
Maybe plugging it in is optional.
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I've placed my order.


Changes from the earlier page posted in November:

Price on Seagate backup drives has been increased.

Extended warranty backed down from 3 years to only 2, and the price increased.

Price for the IR extender decreased.


For more info go to: http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-12/channel-master-dvrplus-cm7500/

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Per e-mail:

Product will begin shipping in early January. The DVR+ comes with 16GB of internal flash memory to get you up-and-running out of the box with the ability to pause live TV and store a limited number of recordings. Full extended DVR functionality is enabled with the connection of a USB external hard drive, providing the ultimate choice in personal storage capacity.

Per Specs:

2 x USB - 2.0 host ports - Type A

What could I expect pulling recordings from an external drive via USB 2.0? All my DVRs have always had internal drives. What are some of the things that will be different? Response, quality, etc?
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Is another version with an internal hard drive being offered or can the 16GB of flash memory be upgraded?
Being so thin doesn't bode too well for an internal hard drive...
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I'm requesting the moderator to lock this thread. All the information I've been sitting on at the request of my source has now been published and can be easily viewed in this thread -- the former K77 thread. No sense in having two threads on this.

I'll contribute the other information I have in that thread.
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