Or two TiVo Roamio's with LT with necessary Mini's or Streams. That provides you with 8 tuners. That really is the best LONG TERM pricing for a real whole home solution that DVR+ just can't provide, unless you use the lower priced Sling M1, but the M1 is said NOT to support connected devices, so forget about seeing what is Slinged on another TV in the house with ease (possible Chromcast from your phone). However, the real obstetical is needing a box to just plug in as you stated. The real advancements are in the home mobile arena, as you may know, that is far more economical service far more points in the house and not necessarily just TV set. I know quite a few folk who could save some SERIOUS cash if they were comfortable with the new mobile solutions that use, say, a Roku app for viewing, etc. But they can only "cope" with a box they can plug in and connect to the TV. Sadly limiting. There just isn't real money to made with the box that plugs into your TV. TiVo and CM DVR+ are the only serious options. RIP Sezmi, which was a GREAT affordable option that was cursed with a LOUSY business model. RIP Moxi for retail (still living as MSO equipment), and mega RIP to those old Sony HDD OTA models that are sorely missed today (we can't count those still being used without a proper clock and guide info, etc.--it's practicably dead). This is why the new devices are all about Ethernet and WiFi and mobile devices; cheaper to make and purchase, too. Sorry. I feel you pain.