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Im in Knoxville, spoke to CSR who says they were just told about the DVR in memo and that it will be after the first of the year before Knoxville rolls out this product.



She actually knew exactly what I was talking about and told me that Knoxville is typically one of the last markets to get new Comcast stuff.



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Funny being in a different market they seem to be the first to get things, like the doubling of internet speed, VOD, etc.

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i just spoke with a comcast CSR here for the Chicago market, and asked about VOD and the 6208 and he said that they expect a lauch date of late January 2004, so its comming and they actually know what it is, so thats the good news, the bad news is the wait!
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Who did you talk to in chicago? I have been trying to talk to tons of Comcast people and no one has the answer. I just hope we can hack the box and add more harddrive space
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guess i just stumbled on the right rep.....i was browsing the FAQ's on the comcast site and it made it sound like VOD was available, so i called up and asked about VOD and PVR and they said should both release late jan 2004.....as with any issue i'm sure there are some reps that know alot, some that know nothing, and most in the middle and just know what they need to.....
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I read a post on the Spot this morning from a Comcast employee who said the Sacramento launch has been pushed to 12/17 due to some firmware tweaks.
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I just spoke with a CSR for Comcast who stated knowingly that the release date for the HD-DVR in central california is Wednesday December 17th. He said that they had a CSR meeting yesterday to discuss this. He did not know if the DVI was going to be active at that time, although he did *know* what a DVI was. He sounded quite certain of his facts. So I guess we have a month to go.

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That's too bad. I was hoping you guys could give us a preview and be "paying beta testers." So your release date will be same as ours.
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I just spoke with a CSR for Comcast who stated knowingly that the release date for the HD-DVR in central california is Wednesday December 17th. He said that they had a CSR meeting yesterday to discuss this. He did not know if the DVI was going to be active at that time, although he did *know* what a DVI was. He sounded quite certain of his facts. So I guess we have a month to go.
Any idea if Central California would include the Monterey Bay Area? I've given up on trying to get an answer on anything out of Comcast, let alone anyone there who has a clue what I'm talking about.

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Jive,

Is Monterey part of the Bay Area's DMA (market area), or does it have its own, separate DMA? Do you have HD via Comcast there yet?

Not all of California will have the 6208's on December 17-- for example, it is doubtful that Los Angeles Comcast will have them available by then. So further digging is needed for you to figure out if Monterey will have them by then. I will ask someone at Comcast who should know.
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Is Monterey part of the Bay Area's DMA (market area), or does it have its own, separate DMA? Do you have HD via Comcast there yet?

Not all of California will have the 6208's on December 17-- for example, it is doubtful that Los Angeles Comcast will have them available by then. So further digging is needed for you to figure out if Monterey will have them by then. I will ask someone at Comcast who should know.
Comcast is still jacking around down here in Monterey, or so it seems, regarding HiDef. My neighborhood has had fiberoptic cable underground for several years, but yet no HiDef via cable. I'm a bit disappointed in that, but surely there's bigger problems in life. They're dieing to get me to change to cablemodem, though.

I think what really irks me is how I can never get anything close to a straight answer out of them regarding HiDef availability, let alone rarely get anyone on the line who has a clue what the difference between Standard and High Definition is. I also don't think anyone I've talked to there cares if we switched over to sattelite and dropped cable altogether. It makes me feel sad for the Comcast principles and the stock holders (assuming they're a public company).

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I dont know what to tell you about Nashville. I will call one time and someone will read the spec's off to me and tell me no later than Dec.15. Someone else on this forum called and was told 2nd quater 04. I have even been told that Comcast will not offer that feature:confused: . The last lady I spoke too said that havent been told anything. I know for a fact that they have meetings going over the 6208 and VOD. They are advertising in Nashville and the website has been updated to show PVR's. I wish they would give everyone the same memo and/or training.

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Jive,

Well, Monterey is considered part of the Bay Area for Comcast's purposes.

But, since you don't have HDTV there yet, it is doubtful that they will have any 6208's for you, as the servers at Comcast's headends serving your area likely will not be set up with the firmware to run the 6208's.

So, I would have to say you probably won't see the 6208 until your area gets HDTV from Comcast. But, I could be wrong, so I would check back closer to the launch date of December 17.

Call the technical assistance line (888-824-4146) for better information about what's available in your area. They aren't perfect there, but they are noticeably better than the CSR's at 1-800-COMCAST. And they actually answer the telephone directly -- no introductory taped messages (at least that's been my experience-- in fact, the first time I called it I was actually stunned that a live person answered the phone).
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SonomaSearcher, I think in one of the other threads it was mentioned that once 6208 is available that it will be offered for everybody (even non HD users).

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VJ: my present knowledge on this matter would say that you are correct, however I cannot say whether or not they will limit these box's initially to HD customer's only, depending on what the demand/supply is this may be the case. Obviously this is not meant as any type of scripture as I generally dont know what I'm talking about ;) But I would imagine that this could be a possibility.

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If there isn't the right equipment/software on the headend the cable company is not going to be able to offer the 6208 to anyone (HD or SD). I think that was the point SonomaSearcher was making. If your cable company is not offering HDTV then there is a (good?) chance their headend won't currently support the 6208 ... the cable company may have to make some upgrades before they can offer it to anyone.
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I spoke with a very knowledgeable person at Comcast in Arlington, Virgina (DC Suburbs). We already have eight High Def channels, which you can get with a "Basic Cable" plan ($13.99), and only an additional $5 per month for the HD box, which works pretty well (only problem is drop out of digital sound on Fox, which means a manual selection of the analog inputs on my Denon receiver). Channels include both INHD channels, which are awesome. Arlington/DC is NOT getting the Motorola 6208 because we do not have a Motorola "head-end," that is, cable plant. Instead, we have a Scientific Atlanta head-end and equipment - I use the Scientific Atlanta 3100 for HD. They are currently testing a box in Arlington/DC - I do not believe it is SA, but couldn't get them to say which one (not Motorola, however) - that will supposedly give us Motorola 6208 functionality - i.e., HD DVR/PVR. Arlington/DC already has DVR/PVR functionality equipment, but only for SD. My source suggested it would be several months before the box they are testing could be rolled out, if it tests well. I remain hopeful because several FCC Commissioners/Top FCC staffers live in Arlington, and Comcast is very sensitive to putting its best foot forward in this particular market.
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Call the technical assistance line (888-824-4146) for better information about what's available in your area. They aren't perfect there, but they are noticeably better than the CSR's at 1-800-COMCAST. And they actually answer the telephone directly -- no introductory taped messages (at least that's been my experience-- in fact, the first time I called it I was actually stunned that a live person answered the phone).
Thanks. I called this number and did actually get to talk to people who knew what they were talking about.

The bad news is that they still won't give any projections regarding HDTV in Monterey. Everything is in place as far as fiber optic cables and local broadcasters putting out the signal. You know what they're waiting for?..... ENOUGH PEOPLE TO CALL IN AND REQUEST IT! Jeez.....I've been HiDef capable in all respects for two years and I still can't get the service yet. I must be the ONLY one who gives a crap around here.

I mentioned that from the information as provided that I probably shouldn't expect it for another year, and got no argument from ComCast. I do know that the day I finally do pull the plug on cable and invest/commit to Sattelite, will be the day ComCast will announce HD service in my area. Murphy's Law applies a lot in my little world.

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They are currently testing a box in Arlington/DC
Scientific Atlanta 8000HD perhaps?
http://www.sciatl.com/news/03Jun09-3.htm
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dt_dc, Sonoma: I can assure you that even in an area that hasn't launched HD yet the 6208 would still be usable, now whether Comcast would launch it in said area would of course be another question. But the box controller (the computer that talks to all the DCT's) doesn't really change at all when new services are added just the supply equipment for said services.

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Stupid Comcast, I either want my 3megs or DVR (preferrably the DVR ;) ) i'm calling everyday lol! and I don't think you can just go down to the office and get the box because we tried that with the HD one and they wouldn't give us one because they need the extra $10 for the tech.
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Did anyone find out if the initial launch of the 6208 would have a dual tuner? I remember a while back someone saying that the dual tuner version wouldn't be out until next year. However the following article suggests that it will be out on launch next month. This article is from the Richmond Times-Dispatch so I'm not sure how much that applies to the rest of us.

<http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...72094270&path=!flair&s=1045855936229>
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I read that the two tuner model is the 6408.

It looks like some areas are getting DVR service sooner, but with the one tuner 6208, while others (like Mass) have to wait until mid-2004, but may get the 6408.
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In Oregon:

Reps have received a little information, basically that the devices exist, but that's it. No time frame at all.
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GENERAL INFORMATION:

Here is a link to some Motorola 6200 information and FAQ’s:
http://broadband.motorola.com/dvr/news_faq.asp

There is an interactive multimedia demo that you can also watch.

Here is a link to a two page brochure:
http://broadband.motorola.com/catalo...ata_060403.pdf

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The information in the links I posted above indicates that the 6208 will perform like a single tuner device. If you need dual tuner capability, remember that you can just rent an additional 6208 … that would be a pretty cost effective work around.

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This excerpt from the November 9 (Sunday) Contra Costa Times adds further confirmation that S.F. Bay Area will get the 6208 sometime in December:

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Although the TiVo brand, like Kleenex and Xerox, has become synonymous with the product category, other versions of the DVR have been developed by ReplayTV, EchoStar and some cable services, including Comcast, which plans to introduce DVR to the Bay Area in set-top boxes before the end of the year. Some analysts even believe that TiVo eventually will be outflanked by its competitors.
The current target date (not reported in the CCT article) is December 17.
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The information in the links I posted above indicates that the 6208 will perform like a single tuner device. If you need dual tuner capability, remember that you can just rent an additional 6208 … that would be a pretty cost effective work around.
I thought the same thing however I'm still not clear if the $9.95 service fee is on a per box basis or per household. I have 3 TV's in my house so there's quite a difference between between paying $30.00+ per month rather then $9.95.

Anybody heard anything about this?
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I can guarantee you it will be $9.95 per box. There is no way Comcast is going to allow 2, 3 or 4 boxes to be rented for a total of $9.95 per month-- especially if the the boxes are in short supply and the demand is high.

There might even be a limit on the number of boxes per household depending on how strong the demand is-- so even if you want 3 boxes at $30 per month, you might not be able to get them.
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