So I just had my Comcast service installed today here in Ann Arbor. No problems, the HD offering here is pretty nice, 13 channels in total right now. After setting the whole shebang up I was curious what kind of action I could get out of the firewire ports on the DCT-6200 Comcast gave me, figuring that it wouldn't work after reading posts here. We're an all-Mac household here, so the obvious first step was to try VirtualDVHS and see what happens. The Powerbook picked up on the 6200 and listed it as a properly connected device called "6200" in the System Profiler (hardware manager for the Win-heads.) Initially, I could click the record button but nothing much happened, it created an empty .m2t file but not much more. Then I realized I didn't actually have the 6200 tuned to an HD channel (duh) and as soon as I changed to InHD and hit record, *boom* it started writing something to disk at bitrates anywhere between 8 mbit and 15 mbit or so. 10 seconds yielded about 16 megs of material and anxious as I was, I went to VLC to play the .m2t file back. Lo and behold, it worked!
Playback was a little too much for my poor 867 mhz PB G4, but it seemed to be all there. Mind you, I haven't yet figured out a way to play the recorded material back through the 6200, but I'm gonna keep tinkering some more. Short story, it seems that at least over here Comcast is rolling out 6200's with at least partly enabled firewire ports. Good news, I'd say.
Originally posted by ZMike Does Mits NetCommand "see" your 6200 as a recordable 1394 device?
As far as archiving from PVR to DVHS goes, I can archive HD and analog (ONLY) from a 6208 (7.15) to a JVC 30k. I can archive HD, SD and analog to a Mits DVHS now.
-Mike
Yes and no, netcommand recognizes the two 1394 devices, but it does not allow setting up the 30k for timer recording when tuned to a digital channel. So, I believe the answer is that netcommand 2.0 sees the 6200 as a 1394 device (and the 30k), but does not see the HD tuner as recordable. It is my understanding that the tuner software (ie comcast program guide) has to provide the recording function, as the mitsubishi HD OTA tuner software does. Likewise, its the 30k analog tuner that provides the recording software/menu for timer recording analog channels. The 6200 HD tuner does not provide for recording, and its my understanding the 6208 only provides for recording to its own hard drive.
Originally posted by azdon ZMike offered the solution and it works great. Timer recordings with JVC and 6200. Mike, please post what you told me for all to use. Thanks, Don
This is how it works on my system for NetCommand with a 620X and a MITS DVHS:
1 I select the 1394 Device (not the cable box)
2 I select the channel to record with the Commie remote
3 I press "Record" on the Mits remote
4 I select Duration, Start Time and Day on the Record/Connect screen
5 I click on ADD and then close
6 I turn off the 620X
The 620X AND the Mits DVHS both wake up at the selected time and the channel that was playing when I turned off the 620X is recorded.
After the recording completes, both the DVHS and the 6208X are turned off.
Originally posted by oleus i jus got firmware 7.15 on my 6208
so....i won't be able to record SD onto the JVC 30K?? is that a problem that effects all 6208/JVC30K combos???
Post #999 on page 50 from Rich4av explained what was happening with digital SD channel recording was a JVC image buffer problem. He had the problem using a 6200 and I have it with a 6208.
7.15 has wiped out my DVI connection to my projector apparently. When i went downstairs to see if my other 6208 got the update, i got a weird "HD SINGAL PROTECTION NOT COMPATIBLE - use PBR connection or alternate" screen and now whenever i turn the cable box on, i see a signal for one second then it's gone.
this must be some sort of "handshake" issue with my projector or switcher, right? is there any fix?
7.15 fixed the HDCP handshake problems. If you are still having problems, likely, your projector is not HDCP compliant. Try powering off the box and your projector, then turn on your projector and wait till its warmed up, then turn on your box and see if you get the same problem. Check the specs on your projector also to assure HDCP-compliance.
Is there any information related to enabling firewire input on the 6208. From a hardware standpoint it would have been so easy to implement this so it's really too bad if there's no way to enable it. Any ideas?
Originally posted by andyman1080 Is there any information related to enabling firewire input on the 6208. From a hardware standpoint it would have been so easy to implement this so it's really too bad if there's no way to enable it. Any ideas?
I guess FireWire input is already enabled from the hardware standpoint, to the extent that signals are transmitted back and forth among the elements of the network.
Software is another story, and I can't imagine what would motivate Motorola/Comcast/TvGuide to want to do it. In fact, they also don't appear to breaking any speed records to implement software for FireWire or USB OUTput to external sources such as hard disk, which they said would happen.
Originally posted by oleus there is nothing about HDPC compliance in the specs for my projector. I am running the latest firmware on my Infocus projector (3.07)
If your projector is not HDCP compliant... you can't use the DVI. HDCP is content protection over DVI.
Are you watching live TV through FireWire (the 30k) or component or DVI?
Is EVERY channel freezing?
If you can't watch live TV from any connection, try unplugging the 6208 for a minute. If that doesn't work, ask the Commies to send you a reset signal from their office.
Zmike, Thanks.
I actually had time to today to try what you said (actually what I thought you said but didn't). I unplugged my firewire connection, then when into the service menu and saw there was no IEEE1394 devices, plugged my connection back in, and check to service menu again to see 1 IEEE1394 device, and then turned on the cable box and DVHS. No more freezing. I have not tried recording yet, but hopefully it will be ok.
Originally posted by ZMike I guess FireWire input is already enabled from the hardware standpoint, to the extent that signals are transmitted back and forth among the elements of the network.
Software is another story, and I can't imagine what would motivate Motorola/Comcast/TvGuide to want to do it. In fact, they also don't appear to breaking any speed records to implement software for FireWire or USB OUTput to external sources such as hard disk, which they said would happen.
-Mike
Can you point me to where it is stated that external hard disk recording will be supported in the future?
Originally posted by dgenr8 Using the information outlined by agtiny in Post #134 and others, I have been able to record from a Motorola 6200 to Linux.
It turns out that the 6200 has a both a different model ID and a different vendor ID. In MPEG1394Stream::findHDVR I have
Also, I can confirm that kernel 2.4.20 does not work because the raw1394 kernel module at that time did not as yet support ioctl(), which libraw1394 0.10.1 requires.
I went to kernel 2.4.27 but I don't have it fully working yet. It typically records somewhere between 3-6 meg and then the output file just stops growing. ddr1394 is waiting on the poll(). Has anyone else seen this?
I haven't seen that, but I have noticed that after Comcast's firmware upgrade to 7.15, I can't do HDTV capture over the firewire anymore. Weirdly, ddr1394 doesn't even report seeing the cable box.
romtest reports the same values for that magic detection line in iec61883.cc, yet it acts just as if the values didn't match.
Anyone else notice this problem, and perhaps have a solution? Thanks.
Originally posted by vallor ...I have noticed that after Comcast's firmware upgrade to 7.15, I can't do HDTV capture over the firewire anymore. Weirdly, ddr1394 doesn't even report seeing the cable box.
romtest reports the same values for that magic detection line in iec61883.cc, yet it acts just as if the values didn't match.
Anyone else notice this problem, and perhaps have a solution? Thanks.
I know zip about Linux, but Motorola definitely changed the equipment type message that the 6208 sends out in order for the Mitsubisihi DVHS to recognize the 6208.
I finally got 7.15 on my 6208. Live TV throught the 1394/30k freezes up after just a few seconds, but there really should be no reason to need this. Playback of recorded HD seems fine through the 30k, so I would think recording would be O.K., too.
I've also got an LG 3410A for OTA. All of the 3410's Guide problems seem to have cleared up since the switch to Comcast.
After 6 visits in the first month of Comcast service, they seem to have finally gotten things working. I must say that the user interface with the LG is far superior, so I will primarily use the 6208 as a second recorder. The LG has the "Drag" feature which allows you to drag along a timeline to access the desired part of the program. It also has 50x and 300x FFW and RWD, and clip editing. It can be frustrating trying to access a certain program point with the 6208's measly 4x speed. Hope they get these features right on the 6212.
I recieved 7.15 a few days ago on my 6208 demo box. I was suprised to get any update, since 7.10 never showed up at all. Viewing through firewire looks great, so I'm hoping that recording will work the same.
Originally posted by nightowl I recieved 7.15 a few days ago on my 6208 demo box. I was suprised to get any update, since 7.10 never showed up at all. Viewing through firewire looks great, so I'm hoping that recording will work the same.
So far and finally with my 6200, recording and playback seem solid now. Glad I did not throw my JVC30K away or else it would be an injustice of historical proportion
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