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ATTENTION ALL HDTV ENTHUSISTS WHO WANT TO RECORD, PLAYBACK AND ARCHIVE PROGRAMMING: INTRODUCING THE NEXTCOM R5000-HD.

Available now. To order use our on-line form. Buy now (before Jan. 1, 2008) and take advantage of our year-end specials.

NOW AVAILABLE FOR MOTOROLA DIGITAL CABLE and STARCHOICE!
Dish Network MPEG-4 Receiver and DVR added (Models ViP211 and 622)
Supports SageTV and Windows Media Center


Welcome to a new era in HDTV recording. Introducing the Nextcom R5000-HD, the first glitch free, all digital HDTV recording system for Dish Network, DirecTV, Bell ExpressVu, StarChoice, 4DTV(C-Band), Motorola Digital Cable and ATSC Digital Television (DTV). The R5000-HD delivers lossless digital quality capture with industry standard transport streams compatible with a wide range of playback options.


Product Description

The R5000-HD is a Window XP / 2000 based HDTV recording system installed in your set top box (STB) and connected to your PC via USB 2.0. Recorded programs are archived directly to the PC hard drive or D-VHS Tape. The R5000-HD is compatible with Dish Network, DirecTV, Bell ExpressVu, C-Band, StarChoice, Motorola Digital Cable and DTV. Simple to use PVR allows scheduling of recordings using TitanTV and Zap2it on-line interactive guides. The recorder can also be controlled with the STB's VCR timers. Playback is accomplished with either PC hardware MyHD, Roku, etc. or software VLC, Elcard, Divco, etc. (Not included). Professional installation in your existing STB is included with purchase.

The R5000-HD proudly integrates Decisionmark's TitanTV EPG (Electronic Program Guide) directly into the program. Decisionmark is the leading online EPG technology provider, making it easy to find and schedule your favorite shows for recording with a single click. TitanTV users can also schedule recordings remotely wherever Interent access is available.


Set Top Box Compatibility

Dish Network
  • Dish 6000
  • Dish 411/ViP 211 (411 now discontinued - use 211)
  • ViP 622, 722 (DVR)
    (Records all HD channels from Dish Network, DTV, including and SD. MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 (H.264) fully supported. Extraction is not possible from the 622/722 DVRs)


DirecTV
  • RCA DTC-100
  • ProScan PSH-D105
  • Hughes HIRD-E86
  • Toshiba DST-3000
  • Mitsubishi SR-HD5
  • Philips DSHD800
    (Records all HD and SD channels from DirecTV and DTV. Newer MPEG-4 models, e.g. H20, are NOT supported).


Bell ExpressVu
  • Bell 6000
    [*}Bell 9242
    (Records all HD channels from ExpressVu including all PPV. Also records SDTV MPEG2 ExpressVU channels. Extrqaction is not possible from the 9242 DVR).

C-Band (4DTV)
  • Modification of the HDD-200 outboard decoder (used w/905, 920, 922 & certain StarChoice receivers).
  • Direct modification of the 4DTV receiver (905, 920, 922, etc).
    (Records all HD & SD digital channels).

StarChoice
  • DSR series. Any 5C-enabled boxes (Firewire port for recording) not accepted.
    (Records all HD and SD channels).

Motorola Digital Cable
  • DTC2000 series and certain ealry HD boxes that are not 5C-enabled (units with Firewire port for recording are not accepted). Records all HD & SD digital channels.



Technical Details

Writes standard, ISO 13818-1 MPEG-2 transport streams. Tested to be fully compatible with MPEG2 decoders such as MyHD, Roku, JVC 30000, JVC 40000, etc. Configurable output bit rate allows transport streams to be NULL stripped, standard or high. No difference in compatibility (read playability) of transport streams recorded on any supported STB. Integrated IR sender/receiver allows PC to control STB and respond to STB VCR record commands (where available).


Pricing and Availability
  • For latest pricing and ordering details please see website: http://www.r5000-hd.com.
  • Factory warranty 12 months parts & labor.


PC Requirements
  • Windows XP/2000
  • One USB 2.0 port or one PCI slot and a PCI USB 2.0 adapter
  • 512MB RAM
  • Pentium III 1.0 GHz (Dish Network), Pentium 4 1.8 GHz (DirecTV)
  • 9GB / hr Free disk space
  • HDTV playback software or hardware
  • Optional IEEE1394 Firewire card for recording direct to tape.


Additional Information
  • Does not include required STB or PC.
  • Built-in Media Player with satellite preview capability.
  • Now includes multi-STB (tuner) support for simultaneous capture from up to 4 STBs
  • Recording directly to D-VHS Tape
  • Supports SageTV and Windows Media Center

The user manual for the R5000-HD is currently availbale online at http://www.nextcomwireless.com/R5000...dvr_manual.htm


For more information and to order, go to: www.r5000-hd.com

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R5000-HD OFFICIAL PRODUCT RELEASE UPDATE
October, 18, 2004: The R5000-HD is officially available and on sale through our website: www.r5000-hd.com
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So $999 includes the modification, installation and warranty? Ii sounds pretty good, especially since now we don't have to worry about the AVX-1 in the chain and have glitch free recordings. I guess this gives me time to save up for August.

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Optional IEEE1394 Firewire card and DVHStool for D-VHS archiving

Will this be compatable with future Blu-ray and HD-DVD recorders? If so, I'm very interested. If not, well... I don't fancy the idea of DVHS enough to spend another grand on HT equipment.
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Will modified DTC-100's work?

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Why does DirecTv have a higher CPU requirement?


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I assume that DirecTV requires more processing power to convert it's mpeg 1.5 streams to mpeg2.

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Pentium III 1.0 GHz (Dish Network), Pentium 4 1.8 GHz (DirecTV)

What about Athlon CPU's?

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OK...I'll bite - does this setup record 5.1?
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2 mos. off? Must be some competition out there.
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I can't wait! I have a Mits SR-HD5, but it crashes a lot. I have the Dish 6000, but also want a DirecTV receiver too modified with this solution. I have both Dish and DirecTV at my house. Of those DTV receivers listed, which is the best, most reliable one to get? I think I want to avoid the Mits, I had some problems with mine, and it ran VERY hot. I'm leaning towards the DTC100, since they can be had pretty cheap, and seem to be reliable. I would only use it for HD recording anyway, so any extra bells and whistles would be wasted for this specific installation.
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Kevin, I have a Hughes HIRD E86 and a DTC100, my DTC100 has the 169 mod in it, I think the DTC100 is better receiver, but I guess I will probably get the E86 modded with this, unless they can mod DTC100 even though it has 169time.

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Largo, I was thinking along the same lines with my Dish 6000. It has the 169time mod, so I was thinking of leaving that receiver alone, and getting the mod done to a different receiver. I'll probably pickup a used DTC100 off of Ebay for this application.
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C'mon, what's this all about? How was this date decided upon? I registered 6 days later.
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Originally posted by ChrisW6ATV
Maybe this is an "HD-SDI over USB 2.0" device, or something analagous to that. With such a signal, or even a "unique HD data signal over USB 2.0"

So, this is indeed what it is!


Darn, I just spent $1000 on an HD Tivo, now I need to find 'another' $1000 for an HD recording toy. Decisions, decisions...

I suspect that it connects to the set-top boxes in exactly the same way the 169time HDVR device does, so most likely the R5000 folks will not 'accept' already-modified receivers for their product. Technically, it could be possible, but if these devices connect to HD receivers the way an SDI mod does, it would be nearly impossible to connect a second device in the same way. Realistically, at the least the 169time device would have to be removed and then some type of "Y/split" would have to be connected to each signal needed for both devices. Then, after both devices were (re)attached, there might be interaction/impedance issues that would degrade the signal, and this R5000 has 'stability' as one of its main selling points, therefore my doubt of 'dual-mod' plans.

Amelie-this device creates 'standard MPEG-2 transport streams', so 'any' device that can 'record and play' such files (presumably any storage device that can handle 20 Mb per second continuously, or faster) should work fine. If Blu-ray and/or HD-DVD are available as 'standard computer add-ons' the way DVD recorders are now, they will certainly work.

Steve-unless this uses one of the Pentium 4-specific technologies (SSE2?), probably an Athlon of similar speed (XP 1800 or higher) sholud work, I would think. I bet you 'hit the nail on the head' regarding Dish vs. DirecTV power needed.

HDTVFanAtic-there is no reason this would not record 5.1 sound, the same as whether it would record 'all colors'-the sound format is a basic part of 'standard MPEG-2 transport streams'.

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So is this a module similar to 169 that gets put into the STB? I'm very confused as to how this is describing the setup. When will pictures of the setup be available? If I buy this can I use the same setup on both Dish and DirecTV or will there be specific setups for each?


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>>>Playback is accomplished with either PC hardware MyHD, Roku, etc. or software VLC, Elcard, Divco, etc. (Not included).<<<<br />
Does this solution support timeshifting (playing back streams as they are recording)?

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Ill answer what I can based on my testing of the 5k so far.

The system includes a modification to your stb that provides a USB hook up between your stb and PC. As far as I know the PC/software will support any of the mentioned providers so you could record from both Dish and Direct using a USB switcher to select your preference. I have no way of trying this but I would think a usb hub would also work and only have one of the stbs active at a time when recording. Good question.
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Can't wait
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Great news. Any pictures???

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Originally posted by R5000-HD[*]AVS Forum discount available for members registered before 2/11/04.

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C'mon, what's this all about? How was this date decided upon? I registered 6 days later.

And I registered 6 days earlier! Sorry to rub it in.

I may need to change my description to (ATSC&USB2)->PC...
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Alan - can you tell us a thing or two about the PC software to record?

It has some zap2it integration for program guide?

Does it have any way to change channels on the STB? (Doubtful)

Can an IR blaster on the STB tell the PC to start recording?

If neither of the above is true, then I guess you have to program channel
changes on the STB to match recording timers on the PC.

It would be great if you could ask Nextcom to post a screen capture of
the recording software user interface.
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Alan - can you tell us a thing or two about the PC software to record?

It has some zap2it integration for program guide?

Does it have any way to change channels on the STB? (Doubtful)

Can an IR blaster on the STB tell the PC to start recording?

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The recorder can also be controlled with the STB VCR IR control.


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$1,000 is a lot of money. Especially for what is essentially another private modification job.

I'm curious, but cautious.

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If it performs as advertised, I consider it money well spent.
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It would be money well spent. All that has to happen is to be able to afford it...

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You know, I wouldn't give a **** about 5c except 2 things. I don't mind getting a service and being allowed one copy, but I need.

Computer editing.

Flexibility of archival media chosen.

And also, the JVC just scares me. Alright? Scares me. And the mits doesn't have a mpeg decoder. This way, I don't have to wait until a nice blueray system is available...

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Originally posted by HDHTPC
Alan - can you tell us a thing or two about the PC software to record?

It has some zap2it integration for program guide?

Does it have any way to change channels on the STB? (Doubtful)

Can an IR blaster on the STB tell the PC to start recording?

If neither of the above is true, then I guess you have to program channel
changes on the STB to match recording timers on the PC.

It would be great if you could ask Nextcom to post a screen capture of
the recording software user interface.

heres hoping that either Sage or Snapstream talk to these guys.


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Heres a capture of the software.

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Originally posted by cerulean
>>>Playback is accomplished with either PC hardware MyHD, Roku, etc. or software VLC, Elcard, Divco, etc. (Not included).<<<<br />
Does this solution support timeshifting (playing back streams as they are recording)?

Bob

Bob,

For playback on MyHD it would depend on how the file(s) are recorded.

If it can record sequence files and does not keep all files in the sequence locked MyHD can be used to time-shift.
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Interesting, how exactly does this work? Do they tap the datapath in the box directly?

Thanks,
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Good question, does it allow for a split size during recording?
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