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post #1 of 19 Old 06-02-2001, 02:41 AM - Thread Starter
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Thought some of you might find this comical.
Equipment on Ebay for recording HD is going for ridiculus prices.

I recently bid on Ebay for a Perfect condition DISH 5000 as a backup to my current setup for recording HDTV. I won the auction for $200.

I have been watching another DISH 5000 where the seller also had the HD modulator for $130 to the winner. It caught my attention because of the HD modulator and I offered to buy it alone for $300.

This thing just went for $1325.00!!
Are these people nuts?

See: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...ndexURL=0&rd=1

Granted, what I got did not have the HD modulator but a forum member is selling me his for $400. So, for a grand total of $600, I will have a complete 5000 spare for recording.

If I could get 6 times the price I paid for my DST51/HD1000 combo, I would sure sell ithttp://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Don't forget the additional $130 for the HD modulator, so the real total would be $1455. Plus shipping.

Either it's a rigged deal, to drive prices up, or the scarcity of these units is really taking effect.

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Incredible!! $1455!! Of course, after spending a month sending emails to almost every dealer nationwide trying to find a Modulator, I can confirm there is no 'magic' supply out there. So these things will only get more scarce, until another viable recording solutions comes out.

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I gave up at $600 ($730), the HD adapter was the draw for me.

I was amazed at the final price.

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Gentelmen:The Auction on E-bay was not a hoax.I am a AV RETAILER and also from BOB's comment I can concurr that there are no modulators in any type of quantity anywhere.
By the way,I was the High Bidder and this completes my eighth DISH 5000 w/modulator,Panasonic PV-HD1000,Panasonic HDTV TUNER TU-DST51 Recording setup of which five of them will be for sale for $5500.00 US.As we all know on this great forum this is the only fluid solution for recording
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George: I think you meant the only "liquid" solution for recording. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/cool.gif

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I do have a spare Panasonic DST50 and VCR combo both with warranty plus a virgin 5000 receiver (in plastic)... NO Modulator.

Anyone interested should email me at jason@linkline.com

Personal pickup in Los Angeles is an option.
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Some of this pricing is downright CRAZY. I've seen similar pricing (> $5000 for the combo, $3000 for 2 of the 3 pieces, etc.) on this forum.

I know of someone who, in the past three weeks (through research, patience, and persistence) picked up the following:

- A brand new, factory-sealed, fully warranteed Dish 5000 receiver, HDTV modulator, and 500 dual LNBF antenna (with installation kit, switches etc.)

- A factory refurb'ed, warranteed TU-DST51

- A factory refurb'ed, warranted PV-HD1000

...for a total cost of $2550 (plus shipping from the three different suppliers). Keep in mind that all three were new or "as new", and all have some kind of warranty (vs. used equipment).

To those still looking: Don't give up (and don't give in to ridiculous prices) -- these units CAN still be found at reasonable prices, with a bit of effort.

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What is fair is fair. Now it is time for me to $$$ in!
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Well George was serioushttp://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1243204116

It will be interesting to see what he ends up getting for this.

Heck, I may sell my exact same setup if he gets a whopper of a price.

Now that I have accessDTV, I can buy a LOT of hard disks or a top notch tape backup for the kind of money I suspect he will get.

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I was and still am serious too. Check my new HDTV package in classified section.
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Don't give up looking. I went to a major retail chain, the WIZ, in New York City and they found a DST50 and HD1000 in their computer from two different stores; both 'open box' units sold for $1,600. I had to send the STB back to Panasonic for warranty repair and the D-VHS recorder was in perfect condition. You just have to be persistent. I remember when a had just missed out on a HD1000 floor sample from Sears for $400. That's when I went crazy and started looking in every inconceivable store till I found it at the WIZ.
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Looks like George G's hopes of getting $5500 for the Panny Combo + Dish setup came up a couple of thou short

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1243204116


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Since he has 5 of these setups to unload, I guess now the price will be more reasonable when he re-lists it.
I am often puzzled why people bother with reserve auctions since Ebay has that "Buy it now" option.

While I do have the DST51/HD1000 , I rarely use it anymore because of my accessDTV card so I was watching this auction with interest because I am thinking about selling mine.

I wonder if the recent availabitity of the HD PC cards is starting to make the DST51 and HD-1000 lose their value?
Stick a DDS-3 or DDS-4 drive (or the camcorder DVtools) in your PC and you have a NON obsolete method of archiving recordings.

The 5000 setup is THE missing link but Mark at Dish Depot just proved that the 5000 and Modulator can still be found.
I wanted a spare 5000 rig so I got a perfect 5000 on ebay a few weeks ago for $200 and a modulator from Mark the other day for $299.

I guess buying and selling this stuff is like playing the futures stock market. George is an AV Dealer so I suppose he knows what he is doing but it's sure out of my league.


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Joe...
I think you hit it right on the head. I have spent less than a $1200 and have all the capability of the Panny/Dish setup and with DVSpoof I will probably spent another 5-600 or so on a camcorder to complete the archiving end. I was lucky to get one of the original Hi-Pix deliveries for $400 + a Dish 5000 for 350 and a HD-Demod for 300 within the January/February timeframe. There are just so many addicts like us, and the $3750 for the Pany/Dish Combo looks to be pretty fair in todays market.

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Ed,
Have you considered a 4mm DDS-4 tape drive for your system?
The tape holds 20GB Uncompressed/40 GB Compressed. Course don't expect much compression with High Def Data.
One tape will easily hold a 2 hour movie.

I do not own a camcorder either but have been following the Dvtools thread with much interest. It still seems a bit cumbersome to use though but a 4mm drive will archive your recordings with a few mouse clicks.

I have had my HD1000 since last July and have a grand total of 20 DVHS recordings that are keepers(Ravens Superbowl,Springsteen,etc).
I had been using it mostly for timeshifting. That is now superceded by accessDTV.

Once I find a way to backup and restore the occasional 'keepers' on a standardized format like 4mm tapes, the HD1000 will start to gather dust.

You can buy a new DDS-4 drive for around $800-$900 but they pop up on Ebay from time to time also and go for very reasonable prices. Most people do not know what these 4mm drives are good forhttp://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif
DDS-3 drives go for around $400-500 new.

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How complex is the modulator? Has anyone opened one to look inside? Would it be possible to modify another type of VHF modulator to do the same job with a Dish 5000?
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Re: Inside Dish 5000 HDTV modulator
Check this out:
http://www.coolstf.com/mpeg/HDTV/mod-inside.jpg
Good luck!
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Quote:
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Re: Inside Dish 5000 HDTV modulator
Check this out:
http://www.coolstf.com/mpeg/HDTV/mod-inside.jpg
Good luck!
Isn't the Altera chip either an ASIC or an EPGA? If so, good luckhttp://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

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