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post #31 of 58 Old 06-24-2001, 08:43 PM
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I ordered 1 of the modulators, got a confirmation e-mail. I never received another e-mail from DishDepot stating that they will not be sending it. Has anybody else? My buddy was going to let me borrow hos 5000 w/mod until I got the mod for mine. Whats the word?

Just got an email from Mark at Dish Depot confirming what was posted here.He will not get any modulators in.I cancelled my order for the 5000 receiver since it's of no use to me without it.

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Could the modulator be used to record Satellite HDTV via HTPC HDTV tuner card ? If so, is this the only way to accomplish this ?
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Yes, and Yes (well you can record the model 5000 modulator output on special digital video tape recorders as well).

It is rumored that Dish Net will have an HDTV hard disk recording set top box next year.
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Could the modulator be used to record Satellite HDTV via HTPC HDTV tuner card ? If so, is this the only way to accomplish this ?
You can use the Hipix, WinTVHD and AccessDTV(which I use).

Yoo can also use the Panasonic DST50/51 STB and HD-1000 D-VHS Recorder.

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I also noticed on the DISH website, that JVC has a Model HM-DSR100U D-VHS recorder. Is any one familiar with it's capabilities? The following is the address for the instruction manual.
http://www.dishnetwork.com/downloads...rr/DSR1001.PDF

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Looks like Bob made a couple hundred bucks on that transaction!
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I also noticed on the DISH website, that JVC has a Model HM-DSR100U D-VHS recorder. Is any one familiar with it's capabilities? The following is the address
This is an old discontinued product (circa 1999). It does not record HD.

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Thanks. The darn thing looked like a giant toaster oven.
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Actually, I use the HM-DSR100U D-VHS recorder all the time, though not for HDTV. This unit directly records the Non-HDTV broadcast MPEG-2 bitstream. Hence there is no loss in quality in the recording process. I use S-VHS tapes with an added hole in the bottom to make the tapes look like D-VHS tapes. The unit is great for "normal" recording. It is, as stated, discontinued and is now hard to find. I would not give mine up.
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I'll second that. I love my DSR-100. I only wish I could use my 5000 modulator with it so I didn't have to have two satelite receivers hooked up.

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I got one for sale in classifieds. Its is "special" gold plated modulator and the packaging is in pure silver!
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I think I'll put one on ebay made of "Unobtaineium", the metal so rare you can't even get it! It'll go for a bazillion bucks.


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When I got my 6000 in the summer of 2000, I put my 5000 and modulator in the basement.

I had no idea that an old unit would be in such demand.



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By the above posting I did not mean to imply that I am in the market to sell my 5000 and modulator.

I am keeping them in case I need a spare receiver for HDTV if my 6000 failed.

I received several emails asking if I wanted to sell.

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By the above posting I did not mean to imply that I am in the market to sell my 5000 and modulator.

I am keeping them in case I need a spare receiver for HDTV if my 6000 failed.

I received several emails asking if I wanted to sell.

It appears that you do not care about recording HD. In this case you would be much better off selling your model 5000 with modulator and then purchasing another model 6000 for a spare. You will probably make about $500-$1000 profit.

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Due to the uncertainty of the future of premium content recording I woudn't sell any of my modulators even for $5000.

I guess there is a real business opportunity if anyone could reverse-engineer the thing produce a few hundred units of it?

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Looks like Bob made out like a bandit again:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1252453470

($800 buy/now on ebay)
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Those modulators are like playing the stock market. No one ever believes that its going to go down in value until its too late. The motto of my story is, sell it while its hot. If I were you I'd keep two and sell the rest just in case they come out with that dream machine...an HD DVD recorder with built in satellite and OTA tuner...OK, I can dream can't I? If you ever get weak, don't forget me!!!!
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There are still a few virgin 5000/HD modulator combos available for... $1500!
Email me if interested.
I have been advised that price will likely rise when the new Hi Pix cards arrive.

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$1500 for the combo is crazy.

The highest price for the modulator was $800 on Ebay and the 5000 can be purchased readily at Dishdepot for $300.
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Jlin, you better watch what you say regarding prices and availability of items. I had a post deleted when I told Rodmanbra that he was a bit greedy asking $1300 for a modulator.

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No specific information or even rumors here, but I believe at some point in time Dish will not be able to send premium movie content in anything but an encrypted form.

The older receivers will maybe not be able to handle this.

But that may not be for many years yet.

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All the more reason to buy stuff now and record your brains out!!

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No specific information or even rumors here, but I believe at some point in time Dish will not be able to send premium movie content in anything but an encrypted form.

The older receivers will maybe not be able to handle this.

All of DISH's premium content is currently transmitted encrypted. All DISH receivers know how to decrypt it.

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Not always. There are some test channels on the Echostar satellites that can be picked up with an MPEG2/DVB FTA receiver. The content changes constantly, though.
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I luv the smell of $$$ bills. I have the 5000 and modulator FS in classifieds. I only wish i had 20~30 instead of just one!!!
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I don't doubt the programmers raised a concern over these modulators. I really don't think it went so far as the MPAA. The only available recording devices are hard disk recorders that cannot make cost effective archives of the files. The new JVC HD DVHS has copy protection built in. There could be another reason.

I'm sure with all the hype here more than one person has considered buying literally hundreds of these and re-selling them on EBAY at a tidy profit. Echostar would not want to be part of such an extortion scheme, legal or not. It's still their product and if enough people get held up for five times the retail cost, it looks bad for Echostar.

I also agree with the previous post that the 5000 system was a clever way to fast track an HDTV receiver but in the long run it's an expensive and complex kludge to someone just wanting to watch HDTV. Hence the developement of the 6000. The recording ability was never a design criteria, at least not officially. It is a fortunate fallout for those who took adavatage of it.

As for program supplier pressure, Echostar does and always did have the ability to shut receivers down.They could simply clear the market of 5000 receivers and offer 6000 as a free replacement to everyone to stay out of the courts. Let's hope it doesn't come to that and how we can help is by denoincing piracy and trading of materials here. To date I feel the form members have been very good about adhering to copyright laws.

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There is one big advantage to the modulator 'kludge' that is often overlooked and has nothing to do with recording. With it, you have the ability to pipe an HD signal to multiple (HD)TV sets throughout your house as easily as you do cable TV.
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