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Anyone has a source for cheaper D-VHS tapes? At a price of $9 a tape that I see online, I am not compelled that they are worth the expense.

I was planning on starting building a HD library of movies, but with tapes being so expensive, I may have to limit my selection of recordings.

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Many people have been using regular S-VHS tapes to record HD.

These are around $3-4 each.

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I agree with Nick.

On the assumption you are using an HD1000 recorder there's no reason to use DVHS tapes exclusively. SVHS ST-120's and ST160's work perfectly if your equipment is in good shape. Even if you get to the point where the heads on your recorder are worn and you have difficulty playing back stuff you just recorded, those tapes will _always_ be readable when you replace the heads.

If you are using a JVC DH30000 I would recommend staying with DVHS tapes if you want your tapes to be 100% readable by HD1000 machines.

I use the DVHS DF-420 and DF-480 tapes for longer events or situations where I need to record two movies remotely on the same tape. Then I copy them off onto ST-120's and return the DVHS tape to recording service. My 480 tapes have probably seen more than a hundred passes though my HD1000's, and they are still perfect.

New ST-120 tapes can be gotten for 4 dollars and change. Single pass used tapes for about $2. I prefer TDK, but I think there are many here that like Fuji and Maxell.

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www.tapewarehouse.com has Panasonic DF-300 D-VHS tapes for 7.39 each. I suppose I bought the Panasonic brand because I hope that my prized possession, the PV-HD1000, will work better with the tape the OEM designed for it. I know it's probably not so, and other brands work fine, but I just I love this thing so much that I'm only comfortable with the Panasonic brand. I still get goose bumps when I play back an HD movie on this recorder.
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Ditto the comments above on www.tapewarehouse.com. I'm using their Fuji ST-160 S-VHS tapes with excellent results so far. I've compared the Panasonic DF-300 tapes to these Fujis and to my eyes the performance is identical, so I would say for routine archiving go with the less expensive Fuji brand.


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I have been using SVHS tapes, Fuji, with the JVC 30000 and find they work exceedingly well. I have never had a problem. I just drill an extra hole in the bottom so the recorder thinks they are D-VHS tapes, that way I do not need to remember to do the manual switch for recording. For auto HS sensing, I usually record a shord HDTV segment at the start.
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"I just drill an extra hole in the bottom so the recorder thinks they are D-VHS tapes, that way I do not need to remember to do the manual switch for recording. For auto HS sensing, I usually record a shord HDTV segment at the start."

Please explain what you mean. I use S-VHS tapes without drilling anything.

Why did you need to record a segment to "auto sense" what?

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Ok, thanks for your advice guys! I was able to record my first HD movie last night, I got The Art of War from HBO in High Definition. Looks amazing, and I used an Maxell S-VHS tape. I can't see a difference between a recording on a DVHS tape and one on a SVHS tape, so thanks for the tip.

Do you think that using SVHS tapes wears out the heads faster or it doesn't really make a difference? Just for grins, I looked at Panasonic's parts website and even if the head on my HD1000 unit goes out, you can supposedly buy a replacement for not too bad of a price...

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What is the URL to the Panasonic Web Site and the HD-1000 part number for the replacement upper and lower head assembly.

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Go to this URL and then enter PV-HD1000 in the search box:
http://www.pasc.panasonic.com/epartr/


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What is the URL to the Panasonic Web Site and the HD-1000 part number for the replacement upper and lower head assembly.

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Thanks for the URL.

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Gridleak,

Any idea where I can find these cheap one pass S-VHS cassettes?

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Larry,

Try this link.
http://all.search.shopping.yahoo.com...&rkeys=&clink=

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Which of these head assemblys is the "consumer correct" model?

Are these seperate upper and lower cylinders which are both required?

I wonder if buying these now to keep as spares is wise?

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VEHS0578 is the upper cylinder/head assembly to use. The information is here.

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Roger, thanks.

I wonder if buying these now to keep as spares is wise?

Any thoughts on whether Panasonic will keep these available or other VCR's will be a more desirable invetsment in hardware?

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For $234 it may not be a bad idea. Who knows how long Panasonic will keep selling parts for the HD1000 units? But again, new machines could soon come out from different manufacturers...

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Roger, thanks.

I wonder if buying these now to keep as spares is wise?

Any thoughts on whether Panasonic will keep these available or other VCR's will be a more desirable invetsment in hardware?

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How do you guys handle movies over 2 hours? Like The Patriot and Gladiator are coming up and all the SVHS tapes that I see in stores are only 2 hour long. Do they even make tapes that can handle longer recordings?

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Sorry about not replying to some direct questions. This thread slipped under my radar for some reason.

Larry,

I haven't tried 1-pass tapes yet. I have a source that was recommended to me by Robert Cobler, but I've never actually made a purchase. The name is Virgil Ballinger, and his email is glted76@hotmail.com . I found him to be a man of few words. You'll be lucky if you get a full sentence back by email.http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Pericles and George,

I keep a fair supply of DF-300 (150 min), TDK ST-160 (160 min), and DF-420 (210 min) tapes to cover the longer events, all purchased from Tape Warehouse. The DF-480 tapes are only available in Japan. I have a source for the DF-480's, and I'll post it here when I get his permission. They are around $50, but they are in a class by themselves in terms of quality and reliability. I have some with hundreds of passes and no signs of wear.

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I keep a spare cylinder for each HD1000.

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Which cyliners are you keeping, do you have the part number?

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I keep a spare cylinder for each HD1000.

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The DF-300 DVHS tapes will last for 150 minutes for HD. TDK and others make ST-160 (160 minutes for HD) S-VHS tapes. I have seen some 180 minute SVHS tapes if I remember correctly. DF-420 DVHS tapes run for 210 minutes. There have also been references to DVHS DF-480 tapes (240 minutes) but I have not seen a source for these.

Try tapewarehouse site as they have many of these lengths.

In my area, only 120 minute tapes are available at retail.

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It's in this thread, post number 12.

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Roger,

Thanks for the reply. My only experience used S-VHS tapes has been the fact that I dug out an old...like 10+ year old S-VHS Maxell T-120 that I had originally had copied some ummm....bedroom material on and had been run to death and eventually stuck in a drawer. I knew it had some wrinkles in it but for the heck of it taped a movie onto it. I only had ONE breakup in the whole tape so if I can get a good signal on that I'm sure 1-2 pass tapes will work just FINE.

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