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post #1 of 6 Old 09-20-2001, 07:11 PM - Thread Starter
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Assuming one has accumulated a decent amount of HD material on DVHS, is there a way that anyone is aware of that a computer can take either the 1394 signal from the HD1000 or from the STB and store/edit it on its hard drive? I'd like to make a "greatest hits" demo tape.

At the last NAB show, I saw a company using a computer to generate hd material for their demo using the DST-51 and the firewire connection, but no one there was able (or willing) to tell me how and with what card they were doing it.

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Although the 1394 connection exists on the TU-DST50/51 and many computers, the propritary protocals used by the Panasonic have so far prevented what you would like to do.

The hard drive unit you saw at NAB was probably a Sencore, it's very popular for professional HD playback. http://www.sencore.com/



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Although the 1394 connection exists on the TU-DST50/51 and many computers, the propritary protocals used by the Panasonic have so far prevented what you would like to do.

The hard drive unit you saw at NAB was probably a Sencore, it's very popular for professional HD playback. http://www.sencore.com/

I know that Panasonic has said that it is proprietary, but I have a Sencore. What I saw was a tower computer, connected via firewire. Therefore, I know it can be done, just not how.

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Our company does a variation on this. We use DVHS to distribute the daily takes of HDTV TV programs to the producers and the like. We have an ATSC encoder and record to several DVHS's. We loan our clients a DVHS, TUDST51/51 and a 38" HDTV.

We also use this equipment in our DVD operation to make HDTV harddisks for kiosks and displays used in theme parks. This is not always standard ATSC rates and goes as high as 50mbs. But these are closed systems anyway.

What we can't do is what you ask. That is to extract files from the DVHS or feed the DVHS directly. We would love to do the later and eliminate the need for our 8vbs modulator and the four TUDST51's in the record porcess.

Even with our close ties and customer status with Panasonic Broadcast, we have not been able to acquire this information. We are now talking to JVC.

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With > 100,000 new users per month, its just a matter of time until a PC based 1394 utility exists that spoofs the copy protection. What you will see is a method to make your computer look like a 5C compliant DVHS tape deck, and with pixie dust hard disks showing up late this year, we will have a solution. Not well integrated perhaps, but a solution none the less.

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With > 100,000 new users per month, its just a matter of time until a PC based 1394 utility exists that spoofs the copy protection. What you will see is a method to make your computer look like a 5C compliant DVHS tape deck, and with pixie dust hard disks showing up late this year, we will have a solution. Not well integrated perhaps, but a solution none the less.

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Well said. We had/have a war on drugs. Now we have a war on terrorists. We will soon have a war on copy-protection breakers. They will succeed only to have the content owners change something and be back on top. Then the hackers will figure that out and the cycle repeats. It's really a game with these hackers. They love ECM. If the studios simply give up then it won't be any fun for these people.


Either way to spite the legality, there will always be a way to copy this stuff.

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