Originally Posted by tutinHD
I have just started researching the HD DVRs/STBs, and I am definitely a novice. I have Charter bringing out a DCT6412 next week; so the question is, which one is the best? I have read the Charter and Motorola literature; from what I read the DCT6412 has both HD record and HD playback, which none of the others stated. (Of course, according to the 4 different Charter CSRs I spoke with, none of the Motorola DVRs have an HDMI cable hook-up either.)
This is what I am looking for:
1) Motorola HD DVR
2) Largest hard drive/memory
3) HD record (I guess programming the correct HD channel may be an issue)
4) True HD playback
5) Something that will work/connect with my current Toshiba HDD/DVD DVR
(I know, this is probably wishful thinking)
I too have read this entire post from page 1 to here...I agree with previous poster this thread is an HD DVR goldmine! Any and all input is greatly appreciated.
Sony HD TV (rear projection LCD) model KDF-60WF655
Charter Communications Service-Metro Atlanta
My understanding is that All Motorola DVRs (non-moxi) should be the 6416 series (We didn't really jump on the bandwagon for non-moxi DVRs till the 6416 came out)
Generally there's 5 DVRs for motorola based Charter Systems - generally a system won't have more than two models totalThe BMC9012 (standard Moxi)
9012 Moxi sports 80 gig hard drive and the Digeo Interface (very nice IMHO) it also supports USB expansion and remote scheduling via Charter.net web portal (only if you have a charter.net email on the same account as the moxi box) - these are becomming less common as none have been purchased after the FCC's 707 encryption mandate.
No moxi box has HDMI all are DVI. if a box has a RF output on the actual box and not a silver plate then it supports RF output, most (except for the first phase) have firewire ports. Rear USBs can support 1 hard drive (or USB based RAID/JBOD device)The Rarer BMC9022 (advanced moxi)
The 9022 Moxi has the same support, except it has an intergrated DVD player and supports one Moxi Mate expansion (which gives a second TV access to your DVR) this box sports a 160 gig hard drive - but because the expansion is handled by analog transmission a special trap has to be on the line to keep your DVR from being shared by anyone else... - these are VERY rare - only 2 or so markets ever launched these boxes at all. - like the 9012 these are not being purchased any more.
In addition to the 9012 features the 9022 can support MP3 playback - it will rip music CDs it it's hard drive or pull them from a flash device plugged into the front USBs - this is supported if the Music application is enabled. Some may also have this functionality with Jpegs (picture CDs and flash) depending on if they have the "photos" application enabled.DCT 6200 Series
unoffically there are 6208s in circulation - these are 6200 HD boxes with a single tuner which happened to have a 80 gig HD in them - they were being purchased when there was a short supply of 6200s - 99% of the techs, warehouses etc don't really look for them, so if someone has them, it's pretty much a guilty secret that they have a HD box plus limited DVR... and if it breaks or has to be swapped, good luck getting another one!DCT/DCH 3400 Series
As I understand it the 3400 series is for Digital only systems - last two numbers indicate the hard drive size - generally either 12 (120 gigs) or 16 (160 gigs)
All DCH series sport HDMI jacks, I'm pretty certain the DCT versions do as well.
DCT = Digital Cable Terminal - boxes with intergrated encryption - which are no longer allowed to be purchased under the FCC's 707 mandate (we can continue to reuse the old ones thought)
DCH = Digital Cable Host - these boxes use a 2 way Multi-stream cable card to decrypt the channels. All new boxes after 07/01/07 are DCH.DCT/DCH6400 Series
Most CHARTER systems will have the 6416 - as most early DVR deployments were Moxi. DCT6416s should sport HDMI
All DCT/DCH boxes have component and RCA output, Optical and SPDIF audio. RF output is optional on many of them and because of moxi, standard DVR setup is to use RCA or Component (we generally do not install DVI or HDMI cables nor supply them - though most installers and techs will use it if you supply the cable.)
So far as I know for Charter, all DCT/DCH boxes are on the Iguide (by TV Guide) platform.
As far as the "Best" DVR - IMHO it's the DCT/DCH 6416 - while the DCH looks a little cooler, there's really no functional difference to the user.
However in the near future Digeo should be launching a new line of 707 compliant moxi boxes - which I hope we'll carry in markets with Moxi already - these boxes should *hopefully* address the hardware issues I dislike in the BMC90xx series - namely the low grade analog tuner (analog picture on a moxi looks HORRIBLE on most LCD or plasma) as well as the lack of signal tolerance by the tuners and cable modems (Moxi guide requires interactive data service, which is in the 9012 is provided by an intergrated cable modem.)
RETAIL versions will also become availible (just add a cable card) and should be comprobable to the TIVO Series III / HD boxes. they will require Ethernet connection to a broadband connection.
Again, no launch or release dates... though they were supposed to hit stores for last holiday season... so I'd hope it would be sometime before end of 2008... then again with analog transimission slated to die in 2009, they may just wait a year and deploy without analog tuners... I know alot of electronics manufacturers will probably be skittish for the next year given the transition from analog to digital.