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post #31 of 45 Old 11-30-2001, 12:33 AM
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If interested, you can download the OHCI spec at.

http://developer.intel.com/technolog...ad/ohci_11.htm
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Steve,

You seem fairly knowledgeable about Windows and IEEE1394
software. The 169Time company has the facility to support PC
based time shifting and and even more advanced manipulation
of H/DTV data streams. They have active and agressive R&D
already in persuit of providing these tools to 169Time product
users. They're looking for people with Windows Driver and 1394
knowledge. If you know anyone that would like to participate in
that R&D, please email me or them. They're looking for help at
several levels such as providing software tools and listings to
actual code generation.

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Thanks, spham17, you've given us a tremendous head start.

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Steve,

this may not be technically possible, but I wondered if this command could be sent as a file via email if someone had a PCI OHCI card and connected their TU-DST51 to it via Firewire?

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As you already knew, my AT&T Broadband ISP has been down for some times, so I can only post when I am at work. I am typing this at my public libarary and checking my email. Oop, my time is up.

Dave,

I know several people that possess the skill you (or 169time) are looking for, I'll let you know after I contact them.
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Thanks Steve.

I wondered if the Panasonic TU-DST51 could be made to communicate with the JCV HM-DH30000U D-VHS Recorder (U.S. version), or the Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U D-VHS Recorder (which, unfortunatly, does not have Component video outputs.

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Originally posted by RDave
I wondered if the Panasonic TU-DST51 could be made to communicate with the JCV HM-DH30000U D-VHS Recorder (U.S. version), or the Mitsubishi HS-HD2000U D-VHS Recorder (which, unfortunatly, does not have Component video outputs.
The short answer is that we can't be sure. (Unless, of course, someone has tried it who isn't talking :)).

Mitsubishi's televisions and that VCR are made to talk with any EIA-775-A compliant devices. (If the device also implements some level of HAVi control, all the better, but the AV/C control that's part of EIA-775-A is sufficient). The Panasonics were also made with these standards, but they were a very early implementation created when there was nothing to test interoperability with. Also, according to reports here, Panasonic seems to have implemented some kind of proprietary lingo between their VCR and STBs (always a bad decision when working with communications standards) which may be complicating things.

Bottom line is that I wouldn't expect the Mitsubishi products to have any more trouble or success talking to the Panasonic equipment than the JVC deck has, but I can't know for sure. Maybe we should petition Gary Merson to try it out. He stated here that he was writing a print review of the 2002 Mitsubishi equipment (presumably to be published in the January/February issue of The Perfect Vision, which will hopefully be out by the end of the month).

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I know that 169time is hoping to do testing and if possible, would consider tweaking there code to work with these.

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Mike, thanks for your response.

I guess I should have asked if anyone has been sucessful at getting the JVC HM-DH3000U D-VHS (U.S. version) to record from the Panasonic TU-DST51. Is there any advantage of having it be able to play back through the 51? Because the JVC already has Component video outputs that would be used to send HD to the display. Wouldn't going throught the 51 again be redundant? Could it be that the Component analog outputs on the JVC are image constrained?

I would see this capability more as an advantage for the Mitsubishi HS-HS2000U, which does not have Component video outputs and would only be able to output HD via Firewire + 5C.

Any answers or comments on this subject would be very much appreciated. Interesting trying to figure this puzzle out.

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h20fun,
"The 169Time company has the facility to support PC
based time shifting and and even more advanced manipulation
of H/DTV data streams. They have active and agressive R&D
already in persuit of providing these tools to 169Time product
users. They're looking for people with Windows Driver and 1394
knowledge. If you know anyone that would like to participate in
that R&D, please email me or them. They're looking for help at
several levels such as providing software tools and listings to
actual code generation"

They have all that but that can't give refunds to people that paid for product a year ago?
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What can I sell that for on Ebay?
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Mr. Wilson,

I think you are posting under the wrong subject, maybe you should both delete your posts here and repost under the "169time technical status" subject. You wouldn't want to confuse people.

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I don't have the Mits or JVC 30K (US version) to be sure if they can be played back through DST 5x. However, the good new is that the DST 5x can be "tuned" to different channel other than the default setting via the firewire command described in my previous posts. Beside any 5c issues if they existed, I dont't see why they won't be able to play back through DST 5x once it is programmed with the correct channel.

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quote:
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Originally posted by michaeltscott
Panasonic seems to have implemented some kind of pro-
prietary lingo between their VCR and STBs (always a bad
decision when working with communications standards)
which may be complicating things.

............................................................ ..............................

Please see the above post and all the posts in this thread written by spham17 (aka Steve). He has found a great solution to this problem using a 1394 IEEE bus analyzer and the PCI OHCI card to send a command via Firewire to the Panasonic TU-DST5x to change its default setting and allow it to accept playback from the JVC HM-DH30000 (and hopefully in the future from the JVC HM-DH30000U (U.S. version) and the MitsubishiHd-2000U D-VHS deck).

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After reading 3 pages of comments I still am not clear will my Panasonic TU-DST51 work with the JVC D-VHS, or must I purchase the Panasonic pv-hd1000. I have a Hughes dss and a Hughes D-VHS and can't get the Panasonic set top box to work through it. Is it possible to use one of the firewire video kits to make the Hughes work ? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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