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I read all of the sequels and Ender's Shadow. With the exception of Shadow I wasn't a fan of the sequels. Too odd and not enough of a connection to "Game" in the latter books
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I have no idea how the movie will turn out. The original novel was inspriing and heartbreaking. It aged Ender from 6 -12. For those who haven't read it, Ender and his siblings were monitored as candidates for Battle School. They have genius level intelligence and adult maturity without the experience. Ender's brother and sister were rejected for flaws. Ender wasn't and was tested to the limit so he could acheive the Schools purpose. They knew they were torturing the children, but the goal was racial survival. The teachers came to love Ender and what they were doing tortured them as well. It's a bittersweet story and I hope the film captures most of the magic. As far as the sequels, Ender or Bean have grown up and taken separate paths. Both are damaged, yet brilliant. Card's storytelling is good, but don't come anywhere near capturing what he had in the bottle when the protagonists were kids.

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I have no idea how the movie will turn out. The original novel was inspriing and heartbreaking. It aged Ender from 6 -12. For those who haven't read it, Ender and his siblings were monitored as candidates for Battle School. They have genius level intelligence and adult maturity without the experience. Ender's brother and sister were rejected for flaws. Ender wasn't and was tested to the limit so he could acheive the Schools purpose. They knew they were torturing the children, but the goal was racial survival. The teachers came to love Ender and what they were doing tortured them as well. It's a bittersweet story and I hope the film captures most of the magic. As far as the sequels, Ender or Bean have grown up and taken separate paths. Both are damaged, yet brilliant. Card's storytelling is good, but don't come anywhere near capturing what he had in the bottle when the protagonists were kids.
I guess I don't have to read the book now.....wink.gif

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I guess I don't have to read the book now.....wink.gif
Hey, that's no more than a back cover splash page...read the book, then criticize the movie like the rest of us tongue.gif

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Hey, that's no more than a back cover splash page...read the book, then criticize the movie like the rest of us tongue.gif
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This thread propelled me to read the book. (Don't you love the easy access of e-books?) I am not looking forward to the movie, but then maybe the screenwriters will improve the characterization and story. It has been done a few times. The Godfather comes to mind.

Card's ability to nuance and hold interest in a character is very limited in scope to my thinking, especially so in Enders' Game. I stood warned by reviews of the book on Amazon's site by some readers who, like I came to be, were turned off by the unbelievable nature of the young boy.

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Card's ability to nuance and hold interest in a character is very limited in scope to my thinking, especially so in Enders' Game. I stood warned by reviews of the book on Amazon's site by some readers who, like I came to be, were turned off by the unbelievable nature of the young boy.

Didn't turn me off. I think the whole point was that Ender was special. One of a kind. They recognized that uniqueness in him early on, that Ender could be "the one they were waiting for".
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First trailer and story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/07/enders-game-trailer_n_3232365.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment

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I'm still excited about it, although I am a little surprised by what was in the trailer.

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If nothing else, this film gives Harrison Ford some practice in front of green screens before he heads off for that little movie JJ Abrams has on deck....wink.gif

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I'm still excited about it, although I am a little surprised by what was in the trailer.

Yeah. If you know the story basically the entire movie is in that short trailer.

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Yeah. If you know the story basically the entire movie is in that short trailer.

Yeah, sure seemed that way. Nice job marketing department. rolleyes.gif I guess they figure the tiny percentage of the audience who has read the book is expendable - they're buying a ticket anyway.
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Yeah, sure seemed that way. Nice job marketing department. rolleyes.gif I guess they figure the tiny percentage of the audience who has read the book is expendable - they're buying a ticket anyway.

That's true for me unless it really gets panned. I've read this book with my son and really want him to see it. So they are at least going to gross $20. And I utterly refuse to buy the overpriced theater food so sucks to the movie chain.

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Just got done reading the novel.
The book is a mix of Lord of the Flies, War Games, and the Last Starfighter.

I hope the movie is only loosely based on the source material.
In no way would it be an adult sci-fi film....it's for kids.
A strict interpretation of the book would most certainly bomb.




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Mrs. Archi is reading it now and really enjoying it. She's pretty stoked to see the film, which means I won't have to see it alone. smile.gif
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My wife read Enders Game and then immediately read Enders Shadow. She loved the books as well, and we're both excited to see it.

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My wife read Enders Game and then immediately read Enders Shadow. She loved the books as well, and we're both excited to see it.

I've heard mixed reviews on the book's sequel; many have been disappointed. Figured I'd pass. The first book stands quite well on its own.

Of course, if the movie tons it, they'll immediately put a sequel into production. Because that's what Hollywood does. rolleyes.gif
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I've heard mixed reviews on the book's sequel; many have been disappointed. Figured I'd pass. The first book stands quite well on its own.

Of course, if the movie tons it, they'll immediately put a sequel into production. Because that's what Hollywood does. rolleyes.gif

The sequel is Speaker for the Dead and it is a book I like a lot.
The Shadow books were written after the Ender's series to follow another student Bean throughout the same initial history.

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The sequel is Speaker for the Dead and it is a book I like a lot.
I'm not sure I liked EG well enough to continue reading the series.
The first 250 pages is about kids floating around in zero gravity....I almost put it down several times.
Ender's final game was a "surprise" I saw a mile off.
Also, the ending was anti-climatic.

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I liked spunky Bean.cool.gif

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I'm not sure I liked EG well enough to continue reading the series.
The first 250 pages is about kids floating around in zero gravity....I almost put it down several times.
Ender's final game was a "surprise" I saw a mile off.
Also, the ending was anti-climatic.
I liked spunky Bean.cool.gif

It goes in a different direction. I can't promise you will like it but its not the war games story that Ender's Game is.

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It goes in a different direction. I can't promise you will like it but its not the war games story that Ender's Game is.
OK....maybe I'll take it up then.

Have you read Frank Herbert's 6 novel Dune series?

Does the Orson S.C series follow a similar progression?

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OK....maybe I'll take it up then.

Have you read Frank Herbert's 6 novel Dune series?

Does the Orson S.C series follow a similar progression?

Dune is one of my favorite series though the novels got progressively sprawled. I would say you can compare the two series except OSC sort of rebooted the series with the Shadow series which is worthwhile on its own. Definitely think the Dune series is better but wish FH would have finished them. If GRRM doesn't finish the Game of Thrones books, there will be a lot of very unhappy people.

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Like some of the rest of you I read and loved Ender's Game but decided not to read any of the sequels because the consensus seemed to be that they weren't in the same league as the original. I am looking forward to the film, not least because of the casting of young Hailee Steinfeld. Her performance as the young Mattie Ross in True Grit blew me away. I am curious to see what the producers of the film have done with Card's story.
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Like some of the rest of you I read and loved Ender's Game but decided not to read any of the sequels because the consensus seemed to be that they weren't in the same league as the original. I am looking forward to the film, not least because of the casting of young Hailee Steinfeld. Her performance as the young Mattie Ross in True Grit blew me away. I am curious to see what the producers of the film have done with Card's story.

and I am interested to see how Asa Butterfield handles playing Ender. He was wonderful in The Boy in the Striped Pajamas and pretty good in Hugo as well....

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What does everyone think about the possible boycott due to OSC's position on gay marriage? To be clear, I am not asking for any debate on the gay marriage topic, just the idea of boycotting a movie because of the novel's writer's views which are completely unrelated to the story itself and the movie. I frankly don't see the point of such a boycott.

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What does everyone think about the possible boycott due to OSC's position on gay marriage? To be clear, I am not asking for any debate on the gay marriage topic, just the idea of boycotting a movie because of the novel's writer's views which are completely unrelated to the story itself and the movie. I frankly don't see the point of such a boycott.

I suspect the studio is hoping for one, or at least a lot of noise about one. You can't buy that kind of publicity.
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If we were to boycott a film because a writer has a view on homosexuality, we might as well boycott all films based on the fact any given film may or may not have homosexuals playing in them..... wink.gif

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