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post #241 of 944 Old 12-21-2011, 09:15 PM
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I liked the trailer. Especially at the end when Gollum appears. Too cool. Man, I can't wait for this !

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I'm wondering how much of a "for the movie version only" role Jackson has given Legolas? I pulled the trailer up last night on the Apple TV & when the iTunes-generated info popped up, Orlando Bloom is listed in the credits along w/ McKellan, Blanchett, Freeman & Ian Holm. The wife says.."um..I don't recall Legolas in The Hobbit!"

And while I too wonder what Del Toro's version would have been like - although I suspect he would have tried to make it as "Peter Jackson-ish" as possible - I'm of the opinion that having PJ back @ the helm was the only logical decision.

That said.....wouldn't that quickly aborted LOTR movie plan from 1969 have been at the very least potentially trippy? You know....when The Beatles wanted to secure the LOTR film rights & get Stanley Kubrick to direct? Lennon reportedly wanted to play Gollum. Kubrick stated the work was totally unfilmable. Ringo would have made a good Hobbit.

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I don't think we are going to have to worry about Freeman's portrayal of Bilbo. I think he will pull it off.

Has anyone else been a little surprised at some of the dwarves? When I first saw all the dwarves I couldn't understand why they made a few of them almost human like (I think it's Kili and Thorin).

I mean, you have this rich, established universe of humans, elves, dwarves, etc, and you've gone to great lengths in the LOTR movies to describe dwarves (beards, short, women looking the same as men, etc), and then we now see two dwarves who look pretty much human. I don't get why we see such a big difference in the dwarven "look".

Yea, I also thought the dwarves in the trailer seem a bit off. They just don't quite jive with my expectations from the book or from the previous films. Bilbo actually seems fine to me (a little too youthful maybe, but I also thought that of all the hobbits cast in LOTR). The dwarves (particularly Thorin) though don't really look like a separate race from humans. Also, from what I remember in the book, I was expecting Thorin to be a much more imposing character. From the glimpse you get in the trailer, not so much. I expect it will all come together fine nonetheless.
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This just seems too much like the LOTR movies. I wanted to see a lighthearted romp that the book is.
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^Not impressive.
Way too slick, looks like a family reunion.

OTOH, The Hobbit is the lesser product in Tolkien's fantasy output....

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C'mon, guys! It's not that bad. You're tellin' me you don't want to journey back to Middle Earth? Run around the Shire? Throw back some grog with Gandalf? I'll tell you what...
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just for that you have to watch this.


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^Not impressive.
Way too slick, looks like a family reunion.

OTOH, The Hobbit is the lesser product in Tolkien's fantasy output....

Jesus oink, if you're not careful, you're going to cynicism your way out of enjoying this film.
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C'mon, guys! It's not that bad. You're tellin' me you don't want to journey back to Middle Earth? Run around the Shire? Throw back some grog with Gandalf? I'll tell you what...
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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just for that you have to watch this.


NO fair making me sit thru that video and wondering why the hell you made me do it.
I'm not even AWAKE yet....


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Jesus oink, if you're not careful, you're going to cynicism your way out of enjoying this film.

As a big fan of PJ's LOTR, I will give The Hobbit a go, regardless of trailers.
I have read the books and, IMO, Jackson's LOTR films exceed Tolkien.
And that is an amazing thing that rarely happens with movies.

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As usual, thanks for the update on the video blogs. I enjoyed this one, and Hobbiton looks great. It is also interesting to see, a small bit of, how much work goes on by many people to make things work during a film.

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The trailer reminded me why I couldn't get very far in the book.....

+1. Snoozer.
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I'm really looking forward to this film! The bonuses of it being filmed in 3D (their rigs look incredible!) and 48 frames per second make this even juicier for me.

I'm also really interested in Howard Shores score for these films. I know the trailer used the music from LOTR (I think it's the concerning Hobbits track), but I wonder what new pieces he'll be creating for these films and how similar the themes will be. As far as I'm concerned, Shore's score for LOTR is one of the greatest I've ever heard in a film. Not only did it beautifully capture and enhance the essence of the films, but they felt completely original. It didn't sound like anything I had heard before. I really want the SACD!

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I'm also really interested in Howard Shores score for these films. I know the trailer used the music from LOTR (I think it's the concerning Hobbits track), but I wonder what new pieces he'll be creating for these films and how similar the themes will be. As far as I'm concerned, Shore's score for LOTR is one of the greatest I've ever heard in a film. Not only did it beautifully capture and enhance the essence of the films, but they felt completely original. It didn't sound like anything I had heard before. I really want the SACD!

I can't seem to find an SACD recording, but there is DVD-A available.

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I can't seem to find an SACD recording, but there is DVD-A available.

Sorry, you're right. I saw it at a music store a long time ago and I regret not picking it up.

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Sorry, you're right. I saw it at a music store a long time ago and I regret not picking it up.

I have the CDs, but would love to have a SACD Hybrid of all 3 soundtracks.

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+1. Snoozer.

Seriously? Tolkien himself said that it was written at a second or third grade level (11th grade in our poor educational system). As a book for a 2nd or 3rd grader, it's beyond the pale!!! I may reread before the opening.
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As a big fan of PJ's LOTR, I will give The Hobbit a go, regardless of trailers.
I have read the books and, IMO, Jackson's LOTR films exceed Tolkien.


I'm don't think the movies EXCEED the books as much of the books are left out but you could not hope for a better adaptation to film. PJ exceeded my expectations.
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C'mon, guys! It's not that bad. You're tellin' me you don't want to journey back to Middle Earth? Run around the Shire? Throw back some grog with Gandalf? I'll tell you what...

I agree I'm looking forward to it.

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I'm don't think the movies EXCEED the books as much of the books are left out but you could not hope for a better adaptation to film. PJ exceeded my expectations.

I agree not all of the material in the books made it to the screen.
Since it is nearly impossible for any book-to-screen adaptation to include EVERYTHING, some things had to be left out for the sake of clarity and brevity.
IMO, very little that was cut is important overall to the STORY of LOTR.

PJ's LOTR condenses Tolkein's story in a masterful way.
I cannot imagine it being done better.

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I agree not all of the material in the books made it to the screen.
Since it is nearly impossible for any book-to-screen adaptation to include EVERYTHING, some things had to be left out for the sake of clarity and brevity.
IMO, very little that was cut is important overall to the STORY of LOTR.

PJ's LOTR condenses Tolkein's story in a masterful way.
I cannot imagine it being done better.

We are on the same page. I completely agree!
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I'm wondering how much of a "for the movie version only" role Jackson has given Legolas? I pulled the trailer up last night on the Apple TV & when the iTunes-generated info popped up, Orlando Bloom is listed in the credits along w/ McKellan, Blanchett, Freeman & Ian Holm. The wife says.."um..I don't recall Legolas in The Hobbit!"

Legolas wasn't conceived as a character at the time that "The Hobbit" was written, but it is quite logical for him to be present. He's the son of the king of the Wood-elves who imprisoned the dwarves, after all. Indeed, given what we "know" about the world of Middle-Earth it would be rather strange for Legolas to have no presence.

As for the other characters, some would primarily be useful for flashback techniques, and others such as Saruman and Galadriel have their natural place in the back-story about the White Council and "the Necromancer".

I'll be happiest if the actual story as told in the book is translated very closely on-screen. Jackson should save his innovations (like the egregious fall of Aragorn in The Two Towers, blech!) for stuff that Tolkien did not explicitly write. The Dol Goldur saga is a great place for him to bring in his own ideas without polluting the source material.

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I just saw the trailer on a Barco projector in 3D (RealD) and it was absolutely spectacular! No exaggerations. I watched Avatar 8 times in most of the available formats (IMAX 3D, RealD 3D on Christie and Barco projectors, 2D) and the footage I saw surpassed Avatar's in depth and separation. As the camera panned around characters, there's a very tangible feeling of moving around the character. There's a far more distinct window quality to this than any other 3D experience I've had to date. Those Red Epic cameras sure do capture a beautiful image. I want one badly!

And the image didn't feel like it suffered from low light.

I know there are many who think of 3D as a gimmick, but I don't. Especially when it's done at this level, it only adds to the experience.

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I just saw the trailer on a Barco projector in 3D (RealD) and it was absolutely spectacular! No exaggerations. I watched Avatar 8 times in most of the available formats (IMAX 3D, RealD 3D on Christie and Barco projectors, 2D) and the footage I saw surpassed Avatar's in depth and separation. As the camera panned around characters, there's a very tangible feeling of moving around the character. There's a far more distinct window quality to this than any other 3D experience I've had to date. Those Red Epic cameras sure do capture a beautiful image. I want one badly!

And the image didn't feel like it suffered from low light.

I know there are many who think of 3D as a gimmick, but I don't. Especially when it's done at this level, it only adds to the experience.

Good to hear! What was the frame rate? I'm guessing you didn't get to see this in 48fps?

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Good to hear! What was the frame rate? I'm guessing you didn't get to see this in 48fps?

I'm pretty sure it was. I think all of the trailers were mastered at 24fps and I think most DCI projectors multiply the 24fps to 72fps, but I'm not quite sure. The motion was smooth, but it didn't look as smooth as 60fps, so I'm assuming it's 24fps. 48fps would look much closer to 60 than 24.

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So, will this be playing in 48fps at most theaters? Or is a major upgrade needed?
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So, will this be playing in 48fps at most theaters? Or is a major upgrade needed?

1. Digital Theaters only - no 35mm film - too expensive

2. I suspect "select" Digital Theaters.

3. Yes - upgrades are needed for older digital systems.
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I guess I have to ask my local theater when the time comes
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Production Video #6 is up:

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^ I love the production blogs. No spoilers, but lots of fun. I'm giddy for these movies.

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