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I've found my recent "Bond journey" kind of interesting.

I grew up with Roger Moore as my generation's James Bond and I liked the Bond movies. I'd hear from "real bond fans" that Sean Connery was the "real/best" James Bond. I'd only really caught little bits of the Connery Bonds on TV and they always seemed a bit weird, seeing him as Bond when for me Roger Moore was James Bond.

I'd picked up all the Bond movies on Blu-Ray and have been viewing them chronologically.

Now I get it. Connery really was the whole package: suave, macho as hell, hard-assed, convincingly athletic and dangerous etc.
And of course impeccably dressed. Many of the clothes Connery wore still look killer, especially in the closely-tailored look of the 60's.
The kind of "Damn, I wish I was like Bond" kinda guy. Whereas Moore was the unfortunate recipient of 70's fashion, about which the less said the better.

Once I hit the Roger Moore movies I can now see them with the eyes of a Connery fan. Moore just seems a lightweight pansy in comparison. He doesn't look convincingly athletic or dangerous, and quips his way through the movies...and I'm not sure I've ever actually laughed at a Bond quip in my life. They are virtually always completely lame, so instead of coming off suave and witty, it's like watching your drunk uncle trying to pick up a woman at a party. Kinda embarrassing.

I do really want The Spy Who Loved Me to get to Blu-Ray, as that was the iconic Bond movie of my youth. But...it's been an education.

(I haven't even fully gotten to Daniel Craig's bond yet. I've seen certain scenes of Casino Royal many times, but not the whole movie).

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I enjoyed Goldeneye and to a lesser extent Tomorrow Never Dies. After that, meh. I think Brosnan was too clean cut and prissy for James Bond. I liked The Daltonator he was hard core and rigid, especially in License to Kill. And I think if Dalton hadn't been picked then Brosnan wouldn't have been chosen either (purely based on my own speculation). I think they look similar enough that they were able to transition Brosnan in as not too different looking than Dalton. It seems too bad that the classic days of Connery and Moore are gone. I think Connery is my favorite Bond, he has the suave appeal to the women in the movies, but he played it in a way that Brosnan never did. Moore on the other hand starred in some of my more favorite Bond films and he had witticisms that the others didn't quite bring to the screen.

I remember Craig was chosen to resemble more of the James Bond that Fleming created, both appearances and character. I thought Casino Royale was all right - better than the previous three films, but Solace was again, meh. I don't know who I would "Nominate" for a Bond role though, I've not given it any thought before. Just as long as it's not MATT DAMON! Hahaha!

Brosnan was in fact on deck to become Bond immediately post-Roger Moore. Cubby Broccoli offered him the role for The Living Daylights around the same time NBC had announced it was cancelling Remington Steele after 4 seasons. Audience rage, a spike in summer ratings & some love from Warren Littlefield led NBC to reverse said cancellation. Broccoli did not want his Bond to be identified with a TV series, so the role went to Dalton instead.

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Brosnan was in fact on deck to become Bond immediately post-Roger Moore. Cubby Broccoli offered him the role for The Living Daylights around the same time NBC had announced it was cancelling Remington Steele after 4 seasons. Audience rage, a spike in summer ratings & some love from Warren Littlefield led NBC to reverse said cancellation. Broccoli did not want his Bond to be identified with a TV series, so the role went to Dalton instead.

Sounds right. Dalton was closer to Connery's edge than anyone in the series. The scripts didn't do him or the series justice. Moore's time was silly, but I have a soft spot for Golden Gun's Ms. Goodnight
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...I'm not sure I've ever actually laughed at a Bond quip in my life.

Not exactly one of the standard Bond "puns", but my favourite line ever by Bond is when he and Goldfinger are skeet shooting. After Goldfinger blasts one of the clay pigeons out of the air, Bond says "Looks terribly difficult".

...and then casually blasts the next one from his hip, saying, "Why no it isn't, is it?"
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Not exactly one of the standard Bond "puns", but my favourite line ever by Bond is when he and Goldfinger are skeet shooting. After Goldfinger blasts one of the clay pigeons out of the air, Bond says "Looks terribly difficult".

...and then casually blasts the next one from his hip, saying, "Why no it isn't, is it?"

Except that was from Thunderball..but you're right that was a good one.


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JB- "Named for your father perhaps."

That line from DAF always makes me chortle.

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Brosnan was in fact on deck to become Bond immediately post-Roger Moore. Cubby Broccoli offered him the role for The Living Daylights around the same time NBC had announced it was cancelling Remington Steele after 4 seasons. Audience rage, a spike in summer ratings & some love from Warren Littlefield led NBC to reverse said cancellation. Broccoli did not want his Bond to be identified with a TV series, so the role went to Dalton instead.

I thought it was a case where Brosnan's contractual obligations wouldn't allow him to do Remington Steele and Bond simultaneously, rather that Broccoli not wanting his Bond to be identified with a TV series? Either way, I'm glad it worked out the way it did; we got to see Dalton's underrated take on the character, plus Brosnan was far too baby-faced to inherit the role in 1987, especially given how 'aged' Moore looked in 'A View to a Kill'.

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Mods, can we rename this thread to 'Bond 23 - Skyfall'?

Anyway, this article brings the news that frequent Sam Mendes collaborator Thomas Newman has signed on to score the film. Also, the article as a header photo of the only official image from the film so far.

http://www.slashfilm.com/thomas-newm...ll-sam-mendes/
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Zoey, no offense, but that short list for the next Bond is atrocious lol. Craig kicks ass in this role and really brings out the character prior to becoming a carefree playboy/spy... which was the whole point of these prequels. I think once they transition past that aspect of Bond's beginnings, we will see the role recast.

I agree I like Craig he suits the role well.

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Not exactly one of the standard Bond "puns", but my favourite line ever by Bond is when he and Goldfinger are skeet shooting. After Goldfinger blasts one of the clay pigeons out of the air, Bond says "Looks terribly difficult".

...and then casually blasts the next one from his hip, saying, "Why no it isn't, is it?"

Absolutely!! Liftetime favorite Bond quip for me. What punctuated the event was Bond's shot was from the hip.

....and the character was Largo. But the look on Largo's face after Bond's bitterly sarcastic humorous quip was priceless.

I agree with Daniel Craig that the Quantum script was rushed, and the director was absolutely wrong. It puts some serious pressure on Skyfall...and Craig as the guy on the tip of the spear.

Rich, you'll have to keep us informed of your impressions as you continue. Very interesting; pleasantly nostalgic for the rest of us.
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My favorite quote is, (Goldfinger) "No, Mr. Bond...I expect you to die!"

"I knew you'd say that"...*BLAM!*
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Mods, can we rename this thread to 'Bond 23 - Skyfall'?

I think you have to write one of the Mods for a title change, they don't always read every thread entry.

Here's the latest story from Total Film:

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/daniel...is-not-in-drag

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My favorite quote is, (Goldfinger) "No, Mr. Bond...I expect you to die!"

That line gets a great visual boost from the sight of the laser beam headed directly for Bond's crotch.

My 2nd favorite, also from Goldfinger, is aboard the airplane later in the film.

"My name is Pussy Galore."

Bond: "I must be dreaming."
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At work and could only watch the trailer and not listen to it. Not sure what to make of it (without sound) but really looking forward to this installment because I really liked Craig's first two portrayal's. I'm a little concerned about the studios financial challenges going in but can't imagine they would have cut too many corners with this one given it's box office potential. It's going to be interesting to see how this one shapes up against the new Bourne film.
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A Sam Mendes directed Bond shot by Roger Deakins, co-starring Ralph Fiennes and Javier Bardem, and scored by Thomas Newman.

I just don't see any way I won't be there on opening weekend.
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I'm not happy to see Thomas Newman scoring. The best aspect of all the modern bonds has been the music by David Arnold.

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For those of you hesitating still about this film due to your dislike for QoS, I recommend this brief read:

http://collider.com/daniel-craig-qua...oblems/130951/
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I also prefer the Daniel Craig portrayal of Bond. I am reading through the Fleming novels, and it's easy to picture Craig as the way Bond should have always been.

I wouldn't call it a quip nor one worthy of a laugh, but I would say my favorite quintisentially Bond line from Casino Royale is when he's ordering champagne and caviar for the villa. When the concierge on the phone asks him if he's ordering for two, he replies "What? No, for one." and bruskly hangs up the phone before leaving.

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Isn't there supposed to be at least a little bit of fun in a James Bond film? I don't wanna go back to the ridiculous comic strip tone of the Moore era Bonds, but damn that just looks too Bourne for my taste. And jeez louise, DC is fugly.

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Isn't there supposed to be at least a little bit of fun in a James Bond film? I don't wanna go back to the ridiculous comic strip tone of the Moore era Bonds, but damn that just looks too Bourne for my taste. And jeez louise, DC is fugly.

The DC Bond movies are "cut from the same cloth" as the Fleming books. There is no humor in them. Personally, I like it that way. About the only Bond movies like that are Dr. No and From Russia With Love. After that, the one liners started and progressed from there.

If your only exposure to James Bond is from movies, you owe it yourself to read a few of Fleming's books.
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The DC Bond movies are "cut from the same cloth" as the Fleming books. There is no humor in them. Personally, I like it that way. About the only Bond movies like that are Dr. No and From Russia With Love. After that, the one liners started and progressed from there.

If your only exposure to James Bond is from movies, you owe it yourself to read a few of Fleming's books.

I have read a couple of them, and found them quite dreary. It's a real tightrope to walk, but I don't see why you couldn't make a Bond film that's both "gritty" as you purist seem to like it, and damn entertaining at the same time. The first four Bonds managed to walk that line, imo. It didn't really get silly until YOLT. This new stuff just seem so stiff and uptight.

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I'm not happy to see Thomas Newman scoring. The best aspect of all the modern bonds has been the music by David Arnold.

I definitely agree with you there... Thomas Newman is about as far from an action composer as I can imagine.

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I've never read the books and while I certainly have my loves, likes and dislikes among the franchise, I just like the concept of Bond in general. And I think Craig's portrayal is strong. I like the style of the films as well.

"Champagne and caviar....no, for one" was classic Bond strong. Love that line. Love his style. But how could anyone forget.....

"Why don't you come help me find the stationary."
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I've never read the books and while I certainly have my loves, likes and dislikes among the franchise, I just like the concept of Bond in general. And I think Craig's portrayal is strong. I like the style of the films as well.

"Champagne and caviar....no, for one" was classic Bond strong. Love that line. Love his style. But how could anyone forget.....

"Why don't you come help me find the stationary."

THE greatest lines from any James Bond movie . . .

"Do you expect me to talk Goldfinger?"

"No Mr. Bond . . . I expect you to die."
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Really tired of reading "Bond's loyalty to M will be tested." Need more info. Damn spy movies!
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Yeah, especially considering this will hardly be the first Bond movie where 007 defies M. I can think of about 22 others.

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