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Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (the first Statham movie I saw).

He's just carrying a bag.

Cary

A bag full of guns!!
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OK, so Statham & Seagal prefer 1911s - shiny if available. Seagal thinks Statham is a bozo, cause you can't hit anything with 2 guns in your hands.

Clive Owen likes to chamber a round with his finger squeezing the trigger. Deniro keeps his AR trained on Owen when they walk down the street looking insane.

What Else? How stupid are these covers?
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Clive Owen likes to chamber a round with his finger squeezing the trigger. Deniro keeps his AR trained on Owen when they walk down the street looking insane.

What Else? How stupid are these covers?

Stupid?
Nah, hilarious!

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Hmmmm



Sorry, I just can't stop.
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lol!

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Now THAT is one pathetic excuse for a cover.

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Hmmmm



Sorry, I just can't stop.

Man, that is a seriously lame cover.
Is it tongue-in-cheek, or a joke of some kind?
The expressions on their faces are hysterical and not in a good way.

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I must admit, I am not a big Statham fan.

Any gun that JS carries in any film has more personality, charisma and acting ability than he will ever have. He was dreadful in the Death Race 2000 re-make.

Still, he is a much better actor than Steven Seagal.

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I'd rather watch ANY Seagal film from the 80s to the early 90s than any crappy run-of-the-mill-handgun-action Statham film.

Crank being possibly an exception because it's just different than all of his other films.

Statham is just a marketing tool. I've shown this throughout this thread.
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I'd rather watch ANY Seagal film from the 80s to the early 90s than any crappy run-of-the-mill-handgun-action Statham film.

Lol, really? That's unfortunate. Statham can act at least, and has many films under his belt that are miles beyond anything Seagal has ever produced. He also has a better physical presence and his action is much more impressive and believable.

Unfortunately though, like all action stars, he has done some real duds (Transporter sequels are a prime example) and has been victim of being used as a marketing tool (as you have certainly pointed out). Still though, sticking with the Seagal example, his cheesy posters aren't that far from the norm.
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I'd rather watch ANY Seagal film from the 80s to the early 90s than any crappy run-of-the-mill-handgun-action Statham film.

Crank being possibly an exception because it's just different than all of his other films.

Statham is just a marketing tool. I've shown this throughout this thread.

Crank is my favorite JS film...frickin' hilarious movie.

If you haven't, take a look at The Bank Job.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200465/
Nice little British crime caper.

FWIW, he was also in Guy Ritchie's 2 best films....


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Lol, really? That's unfortunate. Statham can act at least, and has many films under his belt that are miles beyond anything Seagal has ever produced. He also has a better physical presence and his action is much more impressive and believable.

Unfortunately though, like all action stars, he has done some real duds (Transporter sequels are a prime example) and has been victim of being used as a marketing tool (as you have certainly pointed out). Still though, sticking with the Seagal example, his cheesy posters aren't that far from the norm.

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How can someone who is 5'8 or around have a better physical appearance than someone who is 6'4 and who is a master of Aikido...which is an actual skill?

Sounds like more people in this thread need to watch several scenes in Above The Law...where you're actually seeing real martial arts put to use. Not saying that Seagal is a god, or hasn't deterred in his appearance, either. But come on. See through the marketing.

Jason stattham with believable action? You might as well give that a rest right now.
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And it sounds like you should watch The Transporter.

I grew up on Seagal's crappy films. I don't deny he has martial arts talent (I actually met a student of his many years ago), but just that everything he does "feels" choreographed, his action is almost always campy or cheesy, and his films in general are just terrible. Statham, despite his few duds and his funny poster marketing, does not suffer from those issues.
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Coming from the person who considers all great films "crappy."

And I'll probably give "Transporter" a watch when I can. I wouldn't consider Seagal's older films "crappy," either. Certainly not masterpieces, or even "excellent". But far from "crappy."
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And here I thought this was a tongue-in-cheek thread (on par with posting a "I'm sick of westerns having a man in a cowboy hat on the cover" thread).

Didn't realize it was to be taken so seriously
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Coming from the person who considers all great films "crappy."

As accurate as the vast majority of your assessments on this forum are, thanks.
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Lol, really? That's unfortunate. Statham can act at least, and has many films under his belt that are miles beyond anything Seagal has ever produced. He also has a better physical presence and his action is much more impressive and believable...

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How can someone who is 5'8 or around have a better physical appearance than someone who is 6'4 and who is a master of Aikido...which is an actual skill?

I interpreted Iwright's assertion as stage presence.

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I interpreted Iwright's assertion as stage presence.

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I wouldn't for a second say SS has no martial art skills.

It's really a matter of what comes off the screen and into my brain.
SS has zero screen presence, IMO.
Naturally, YMMV.

Martial arts training or not, JS is just a good action star....that is, an actor...making movies.
Did anyone ever believe Clint Eastwood was a real-life quickdraw artist?

Another thing working against SS (at least for me) as some kind of bada$$ is how, in real life, some low-level gangsters tried to shake him down and ended up scaring the poop out of him.
Pretty funny stuff...

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When Jason Statham kicks a$$ he comes at you like a tornado. When Seagal kicks a$$ its like a dancer - way to choreographed and predictable. Speed is on Jason's side. Seagal is still a tough dude, but JS is ripped, and he isn't acting, he knows several forms of martial arts.

A couple of years ago Seagal had a reality TV series and I couldn't believe how much weight he had gained - he was approaching beached whale big.
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Seagal in his prime would kick the **** out of Statham. Just watch Above the law.

Hell, I'd wager that Seagal right now would kick the **** out of Statham.
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I like Statham and I do find this thread quite funny since it's true
Since almost every cover he is on involves a gun

I kind of liked SS in the earlier movies because it was a kind of new style, in the sense of his type of action movie.
However it got very boring quickly since he basicly played the same charcter over and over again, doing the same moves.
Spin around, break the guy's arm at the elbow; wave with the hands so the opponent don't see what you do and hit the guy; spin around break guy#2's arm at the elbow and push him through the window......
It gets too "boring-predictable", only movie that was not predictable (when I saw it) was Executive Decision

I don't get bored by Statham's movies in the same way and no he don't play former or current Cop/FBI/CIA/Navy Seal master blaster in every movie

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FWIW, from IDMB on Statham: Well trained in Mixed Martial Arts and is an expert in Kickboxing.

According to Wiki, he was a member of the British National Diving Team for 12 years.

Certainly the guy is athletic.

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He could certainly just outrun Seagal in the unlikely event he lost the upper hand in the fight.
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He could certainly just outrun Seagal in the unlikely event he lost the upper hand in the fight.

Kirstie Alley could outrun Seagall!!!

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Man, that is a seriously lame cover.
Is it tongue-in-cheek, or a joke of some kind?
The expressions on their faces are hysterical and not in a good way.

Looks like a B-movie of The Expendibles. At least that at "Rambo." And if I recall, Segall was Sean Connery's sensei for a while, I think when he was training again for Never Say Never Again (no comment on that film).
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Oh, by the way, I just saw on IMDB that The Expendables 2 is expected for next year....yay?
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LOL, Wytchone!

Hey, I loved The Expendables. It was so old-school, tongue -in-cheek. It was also good to see Charisma (from "BtVS") Carpenter working. I wonder if she'll be in the second one?

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Hahaha! Nice. Not very accurate though. That guy has some hair on his head. Should be all smooth and shiney.

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Yeah but the blonde squeezing his leg is pretty accurate I think.

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