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So uhhhhh.....how was the movie? smile.gif

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I thought it was easily the equal to Batman Begins (if not superior) but not as good as TDK. Still enjoyed it greatly and the ending was perfect.

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Well, the only reason I wouldn't do that is that there are thousands of theaters out there counting on the income. There are ways to show respect without pulling the movie, and I'm sure the theater where this happened will be closed (for a lot longer than a week.)
If this happened at, say, the Spider-Man musical in NYC, where it's just the one venue, sure they'd close the show for a time out of respect, but we're talking thousands of screens.


I'd be more worried that scenes might possibly be deleted if any seem to close or similar to what occurred in this terrible tragedy. Pretty much ensures that the next version of Batman will be "lighter."

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Well, the only reason I wouldn't do that is that there are thousands of theaters out there counting on the income. There are ways to show respect without pulling the movie, and I'm sure the theater where this happened will be closed (for a lot longer than a week.)
If this happened at, say, the Spider-Man musical in NYC, where it's just the one venue, sure they'd close the show for a time out of respect, but we're talking thousands of screens.

It’s also an overreaction. Schools didn’t close nationwide after the Columbine shooting. New security measures were taken, but schools didn’t close. There were 349 people killed by tornados over a 3-day period in 2011, and I don’t recall everyone staying home, hiding in their basements, and grieving. I’m amazed at people’s paranoia when incidents like this happen. It’s a tragedy and I feel for everyone involved, but that shouldn’t mean life should cease to exist. I can’t live my life in fear. YMMV.
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Actually I just read my post again and yes I did so I will edit. I guess when I come on here to see what is being said about happened and nothing meaningful is said about the attacker and what kind of a weirdo he is but two full posts are about how bad guns are I just went with what I believe.
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It’s also an overreaction. Schools didn’t close nationwide after the Columbine shooting. New security measures were taken, but schools didn’t close. There were 349 people killed by tornados over a 3-day period in 2011, and I don’t recall everyone staying home, hiding in their basements, and grieving. I’m amazed at people’s paranoia when incidents like this happen. It’s a tragedy and I feel for everyone involved, but that shouldn’t mean life should cease to exist. I can’t live my life in fear. YMMV.

I respectfully disagree with the notion of "overreaction". There's a big difference between schools and movies. And the tornado reference, I'm sorry, but that association just doesn't make sense to me. It's more about being respectful regarding those things that really matter. School matters. Continuing the normalcy of life really matters. A movie doesn't and shutting it down for a short period as a way of showing respect is IMO the proper thing to do. My experience growing up in athletics, when someone from the opposing team was injured, everybody took a knee and removed their caps, helmets, etc. It wasn't our team and we were going to continue playing but we took a moment to show respect. Now saying "I'm not going to see it because something might happen" is a whole different story. That's NOT how you take your community and your life back.
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I guess that depends on the baby. I went to see SW AOTC one evening and this baby just wouldn't stop screaming and crying. The parents had to up and leave pretty quickly.

You are probably right. My son (as a baby) slept really soundly in his removable car seat and we were able to see movies with no problem until he was about 6 months old.

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Actually I just read my post again and yes I did so I will edit. I guess when I come on here to see what is being said about happened and nothing meaningful is said about the attacker and what kind of a weirdo he is but two full posts are about how bad guns are I just went with what I believe.


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What - you're saying they should bury the story? eek.gif
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You have a better chance of getting killed driving to the theater than being involved in an event like this. You have to live your life. If you live in fear and limit what you do because of fear, then why be alive?
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I personally think the studios should pull the film at least for this weekend if not the course of the next week. Not because it's any of their doing but as a demonstration of respect and remembrance for the victims and their families.
The problem with that is it would encourage other nutjobs, who crave attention, to do other nutty things.
The guy who did this deliberately chose a "stage" for his deed, it wasn't random, it was very focused.

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School matters. Continuing the normalcy of life really matters. A movie doesn't and shutting it down for a short period as a way of showing respect is IMO the proper thing to do.

You are forgetting this is AVS. This thread was started on 10/27/10, and I suspect there are more than a few here who consider seeing this movie vital to their survival, and missing one day could lead to their extinction. biggrin.gif

I do understand and respect what you are saying I just disagree. Tragedies happen around the world every day and we don’t shut down. Do tragedies only count if they are American tragedies? I think far more people would like to grieve on their own than have a massive movie shutdown, which accomplishes nothing except to give power and attention to people who perpetrate such incidents. If people feel they can do this kind of thing and get the country to shut down then they win, and I’ll be damned if I’m willing to give them that kind of power and attention.
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I do understand and respect what you are saying I just disagree. Tragedies happen around the world every day and we don’t shut down. Do tragedies only count if they are American tragedies? I think far more people would like to grieve on their own than have a massive movie shutdown, which accomplishes nothing except to give power and attention to people who perpetrate such incidents. If people feel they can do this kind of thing and get the country to shut down then they win, and I’ll be damned if I’m willing to give them that kind of power and attention.

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So we had the death threats on Rotten Tomatoes now this. What the F is wrong with people?! My heart goes out to everyone affected. Watched the video of people fleeing the theater and almost lost it when the little boy in a batman suit ran out. frown.gif

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Not gonna ger into what happened in colorado, i'll leave that up to The msnbc boards. I saw The movie last night and while it was good i dont think it will have that ”re-watchable” factor like The others. There's not really that much batman Or suave bruce Wayne moments like in The others for me. If i had to rank them i''d go dark Knight>begins>rises, but thats just me
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So we had the death threats on Rotten Tomatoes now this. What the F is wrong with people?! My heart goes out to everyone affected. Watched the video of people fleeing the theater and almost lost it when the little boy in a batman suit ran out. frown.gif
Seriously... I read the article about the guy and his booby trapped apartment, I'm at a complete loss in understanding what the hell is going on here but find it hear wrenching as you do. My prayers to all those affected.

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You are forgetting this is AVS. This thread was started on 10/27/10, and I suspect there are more than a few here who consider seeing this movie vital to their survival, and missing one day could lead to their extinction. biggrin.gif
I do understand and respect what you are saying I just disagree. Tragedies happen around the world every day and we don’t shut down. Do tragedies only count if they are American tragedies? I think far more people would like to grieve on their own than have a massive movie shutdown, which accomplishes nothing except to give power and attention to people who perpetrate such incidents. If people feel they can do this kind of thing and get the country to shut down then they win, and I’ll be damned if I’m willing to give them that kind of power and attention.

Granted my feelings about it are my feelings and if were the CEO there is no doubt that I would take this action. Having said that, if they don't I certainly won't hold any grudge about it nor will I look down on anyone who chooses to see it today, tomorrow whenever. We all handle tragedies in different ways and who's to say one way is better than the other. Frankly, a point that neither of us has really brought up but I think is valid is the very reason I enjoy movies as much as I do. Escapism. It's not about hiding from the world but just a couple hours of down time. For many I'm sure the distraction/entertainment of a movie will help them cope in their own way.
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Now with respect to postpone showings or keeping them open, it would really be cool if all theaters save the one in Colorado, to remain open and, say, a $1 from each ticket and percentage of each concession be contributed to those families and anti-violence organizations. I haven't thought it all the way through but I bet moviegoers could make a powerful statement that way.
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WB did postpone the premiere of the movie in other countries, and pulled a trailer for a movie that, by coincidence, had characters shooting up a movie theater audience.

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Well, the only reason I wouldn't do that is that there are thousands of theaters out there counting on the income.
Agreed. I don't see how cutting the income of theatre owners across the country will help anybody. Considering the way some fans were treating critics recently, I hope the motive for this incident wasn't related to the film or subject thereof.

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Not gonna ger into what happened in colorado, i'll leave that up to The msnbc boards. I saw The movie last night and while it was good i dont think it will have that ”re-watchable” factor like The others. There's not really that much batman Or suave bruce Wayne moments like in The others for me. If i had to rank them i''d go dark Knight>begins>rises, but thats just me

Really?? Leave that up to the MSNBC boards?? Are you that cynical to think only gun-control advocates are outraged about the tragedy? Pray tell me what Fox News and Drudge boards must be abuzz about right now. rolleyes.gif Why do you have to be or against guns to say anything about this incident? If you didn't want to get into the tragedy, say just as much without the cheap shots at any particular channel or political wing. mad.gif
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Agreed. I don't see how cutting the income of theatre owners across the country will help anybody. Considering the way some fans were treating critics recently, I hope the motive for this incident wasn't related to the film or subject thereof.

Well, the guy supposedly dyed his hair red and referred to himself as The Joker. I don't think he was reacting to bad reviews.

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Really?? Leave that up to the MSNBC boards?? Are you that cynical to think only gun-control advocates are outraged about the tragedy? Pray tell me what Fox News and Drudge boards must be abuzz about right now. rolleyes.gif Why do you have to be or against guns to say anything about this incident? If you didn't want to get into the tragedy, say just as much without the cheap shots at any particular channel or political wing. mad.gif


Relax, it was just a news site that came to mind first, nothing political. Im just saying i come here to read about movies and go to other sites to read about current events. While as tragic as what happend in colorado is, i'd like to just talk about The movie here
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Relax, it was just a news site that came to mind first, nothing political. Im just saying i come here to read about movies and go to other sites to read about current events. While as tragic as what happend in colorado is, i'd like to just talk about The movie here

Yeah.. you are right. Maybe my outburst was uncalled for. redface.gif I was just upset at hearing the news, and just so happened to have learned about it on MSNBC before I read your post.

Going to see the movie tomorrow, and hope for a safe, smooth and enjoyable viewing for everyone.

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holy f*** batman.

so sad and horrific. i won't be going to see it this weekend as my heart is too heavy.
no joy or fun to be found in the cinema anytime soon as I think about the victims and their families.

can't help but wonder about the plots of tdk and tdkr which contain rather explicit acts of random violence
against innocent civilians and wonder if that might have had something to do with an already twisted mind
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I despise any attempt to shift blame from where it properly belongs (a twisted, f**cked up individual) to something else ("society", "lack of gun control", "the movie", etc.). Blame for this belongs in one place and one place ONLY, dammit: The perpetrator.
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I always view that as the easy way out. I guess if you think that ends a souls existence and they go to hell and remain for eternity, or they are completely snuffed out, then it works. I don’t happen to believe in that dogma.
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I always view that as the easy way out. I guess if you think that ends a souls existence and they go to hell and remain for eternity, or they are completely snuffed out, then it works. I don’t happen to believe in that dogma.
Maybe the death penalty is appropriate punishment to the shooter in this instance.
Obviously, he fears death...he was wearing body armor.

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I always view that as the easy way out. I guess if you think that ends a souls existence and they go to hell and remain for eternity, or they are completely snuffed out, then it works. I don’t happen to believe in that dogma.

Ahhhh - I wouldn't touch your post with a 10 foot pole. eek.gif

Maybe you understand the difference between being put to death for capital crimes versus being warehoused by the state for the rest of his natural life - he is 24 years old.
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I guess if you think that ends a souls existence and they go to hell and remain for eternity, or they are completely snuffed out, then it works.
I couldn't care less what happens to his "soul". I simply want to remove from existence someone who has forfeited his right to that existence.
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For those that have seen DKR, violence and intensity wise, how does it compare to TDK? I'm trying to gauge whether to take my kids.
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