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I thought the new spiderman was based on his school years, not exactly a reboot. Looks like I was wrong.

the new Spider Man is another origin story...but I'm hearing that the tone is more dark and the new actor playing Peter Parker/Spider Man is really good...I didn't mean to infer that the new movie is a Spider Man 2 reboot, just a franchise reboot which is getting a lot of early buzz
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the new Spider Man is another origin story...but I'm hearing that the tone is more dark and the new actor playing Peter Parker/Spider Man is really good...I didn't mean to infer that the new movie is a Spider Man 2 reboot, just a franchise reboot which is getting a lot of early buzz

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Not sure I'm sold on this (especially the shaky-cam). Something seems "off"...but I guess we'll see next year.

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Not sure I'm sold on this (especially the shaky-cam). Something seems "off"...but I guess we'll see next year.
I grew up on Spider Man. Amazing Spider Man was one of my 5 Marvel Comics subscription I (or my folks early on, anyway) maintained from the late 70s' to the mid-80s.

I had several issues w/ Raimi's Spidey flicks. While I enjoyed #2, the 1st truly lost me the moment we see that Green Goblin was a Power Ranger with an obviously ARD-ed voice whenever the mask was on (and what a crime, as I always thought Willem Dafoe kinda looked like the old Steve Ditko Goblin & was a brillant bit of casting).

Another beef I had as a longtime Spidey fan was the fact that Raimi had Pete's "web shooters" be something that formed in him & had orgainic material that shot from his wrists - and the 1st realization of this ability in SP1 seemed to be a parody of a teenage boy discovering masturbation a little late in his high school career. If he was truly taking on all physical abilities/characteristics of a spider, that natural webbing should have been shooting exclusively from somewhere in the vicinity of Pete's ass.

The fact that this rebooted Spidey will be using the Lee/Ditko-insipred, home-made web shooters (Parker was a chem wiz originally, so formulating synthetic webbing was part of his origin story) gives me hope in finally having a Spider Man flick this particular geek will enjoy.

That...and well...I find Emma Stone far more appearling to the eye than Kirsten Dunst...so win #2 for me!!!

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Not sure I'm sold on this (especially the shaky-cam). Something seems "off"...but I guess we'll see next year.
Looked like a video game at the end when he's swinging through the city.

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Superman Returns was not a reboot. It's a direct sequel that follows the continuity of Superman: The Movie and Superman II (but conveniently ignores III and IV). Superman needed a reboot, but Bryan Singer was too in love with the first two movies to let them go.

I don't believe that Snyder's movie will be a reboot either. I believe it's going to function sort of like The Incredible Hulk, in that it will be a quasi-sequel that takes place sometime after the previous movies but doesn't go out of the way to reference them.
I personally enjoyed Superman Returns...other than the fact that Kate Bosworth looked far too young to be a post-Supes II Lois Lane.

In the case of Spidey, I'd say the switch from "organic" web shooting to the mechanincal shooters found in the comics signals a bit of a reboot.

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Doesn't look too bad. I'm curious on who is the villain on this new one? If it turns out to be a winner looks like Toby Maguire version will be sold.

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Looked like a video game at the end when he's swinging through the city.
I guess that's too keep the 3D enthusiasts interested and happy.

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I like the actor playing the new Spidey but not feeling the trailer...Spidey should be more fun and the darker theme might not fit the character...Nolan's a producer for this so I'm going to trust that he knows what he's doing

the villain is Lizard
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the villain is Lizard
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I forgot about it being a semi-sequel to the previous movies...that being said I still consider it a reboot because all the actors were changed along with the director...moreso the actors versus the directors makes it a reboot, because there are several other movie franchises/sequels that have changed directors for the sequels but maintained the continuity of the story (Harry Potter and the Batman quadrilogy that started with the Tim Burton directed movie)
You're kind of contradicting yourself here. The two Joel Schumacher Batman films that followed Burton's changed both the director and cast, yet were not "reboots." The franchise wasn't rebooted until Batman Begins started the whole Batman story over from the beginning.

Likewise, the James Bond franchise has been through several complete overhauls of both cast and crew, yet only one "reboot" (Casino Royale).

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Doesn't look too bad. I'm curious on who is the villain on this new one?

I believe it is The Lizard.

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People said that about Burton's Batman, once upon a time.

Thanks for quoting me from when I was 16 and just left my 6th viewing of Batman in a 4 week span....I did it believe me!
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is this the dark knight thread or spiderman thread?

who is the mysterious figure standing on top in the background in the final part of the teaser where batman and bane are in fighting stance?
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You're kind of contradicting yourself here. The two Joel Schumacher Batman films that followed Burton's changed both the director and cast, yet were not "reboots." The franchise wasn't rebooted until Batman Begins started the whole Batman story over from the beginning.

Likewise, the James Bond franchise has been through several complete overhauls of both cast and crew, yet only one "reboot" (Casino Royale).

yes you're right, I did just contradict myself lol

that being said the Tim Burton version of Batman and its 3 sequels were pretty much known to be continuations of the original movie...the 4 Batman films comprised 1 series while the 3 Nolan films comprise another

for me same goes with Superman...the first 4 movies are 1 series...Superman Returns was an attempt at another (hence it was a reboot to me, even though it attempted to loosely follow the events of the earlier movie)...and now another reboot will occur with the version coming out next year

I guess the term reboot is loosely defined but it depends on the director's intent and the overall feel of the movie

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who is the mysterious figure standing on top in the background in the final part of the teaser where batman and bane are in fighting stance?

Catwoman?

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-...001124184.html

actually looks like the Riddler to me but Nolan has stated that he will not be in the movie
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That is a dude ( thug,Strange?)...and they are in IMHO, I think DK and DKR line up with the Knightfall series in the comics minus Robin, and a few villains, with the Arkhym breakout being from BB. This time Rachel's death is BW's `greatest failure' instead of Todd's. Just my two cents no `leaked' info here!
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I just can't get excited about this.

Main reason is because Michelle Pfeiffer cannot be toppled as catwoman. In additional, she's much more gorgeous than the lanky chick.
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I just can't get excited about this.

Main reason is because Michelle Pfeiffer cannot be toppled as catwoman. In additional, she's much more gorgeous than the lanky chick.

Nothing against you personally, but Imo what an asinine reason to dismiss an entire film by one of the most talented and proven directors working today. Thats like saying you can't possibly get excited to drive a new Camaro because nothing will ever top a 1969 SS. Or that you can't possibly get excited about traveling to Europe because it just can't be better than your Senior trip.

Also, since it's on topic, people said the same thing about Ledger's performance as the Joker, and the vast majority of people (even Jack himself) agree he most certainly delivered a better character performance.

That said, you're spot on about Pfeiffer being much more appealing than Hathaway. Something tells me that Catwoman will be more diverse than just the hot antagonist in this film though.
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I just can't get excited about this.

Main reason is because Michelle Pfeiffer cannot be toppled as catwoman. In additional, she's much more gorgeous than the lanky chick.

You're forgetting the whole "IMO" thing...

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Nothing against you personally, but Imo what an asinine reason to dismiss an entire film by one of the most talented and proven directors working today. Thats like saying you can't possibly get excited to drive a new Camaro because nothing will ever top a 1969 SS. Or that you can't possibly get excited about traveling to Europe because it just can't be better than your Senior trip.

Also, since it's on topic, people said the same thing about Ledger's performance as the Joker, and the vast majority of people (even Jack himself) agree he most certainly delivered a better character performance.

That said, you're spot on about Pfeiffer being much more appealing than Hathaway. Something tells me that Catwoman will be more diverse than just the hot antagonist in this film though.

I never dismissed it. I just said that I'm not excited about it. Different meanings.

I don't know about Ledger providing a "better" performance. It's debatable. I think everyone would be in full agreement that he delivered a very great performance, but a different performance than Jack. I like them both as Jokers.

Nolan is talented. I never denied that either. I didn't care for Inception one bit, though. I even paid $30 for the Blu-ray after seeing it theater because I give everything a second re-evaluation. Still never hit me as much as others...
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IMO, people who like Jacks version of the Joker are just huge Nicholson fans period. They get a kick out of seeing him do his shtick. Back in '89, it seemed a natural for him to play the Joker, but in retrospect, he almost seems as campy as Ceasar Romero. I read a quote back around the time it was released where someone on the set asked him how he got into character, and he reportedly said "you just gotta let the make up do the work". I myself really prefer the depth of Ledger's performance. Looking back at the Burton films, they seem like live action versions of the current WB Batman animated features. I much prefer the more serious tone of the Nolan films.

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IMO, people who like Jacks version of the Joker are just huge Nicholson fans period. They get a kick out of seeing him do his shtick. Back in '89, it seemed a natural for him to play the Joker, but in retrospect, he almost seems as campy as Ceasar Romero. I read a quote back around the time it was released where someone on the set asked him how he got into character, and he reportedly said "you just gotta let the make up do the work". I myself really prefer the depth of Ledger's performance. Looking back at the Burton films, they seem like live action versions of the current WB Batman animated features. I much prefer the more serious tone of the Nolan films.

As do I. Jack's Joker was a "life of the party" personna while Ledger's was a true psychotic
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IMO, people who like Jacks version of the Joker are just huge Nicholson fans period. They get a kick out of seeing him do his shtick. Back in '89, it seemed a natural for him to play the Joker, but in retrospect, he almost seems as campy as Ceasar Romero. I read a quote back around the time it was released where someone on the set asked him how he got into character, and he reportedly said "you just gotta let the make up do the work". I myself really prefer the depth of Ledger's performance. Looking back at the Burton films, they seem like live action versions of the current WB Batman animated features. I much prefer the more serious tone of the Nolan films.

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That is a dude ( thug,Strange?)...and they are in IMHO, I think DK and DKR line up with the Knightfall series in the comics minus Robin, and a few villains, with the Arkhym breakout being from BB. This time Rachel's death is BW's `greatest failure' instead of Todd's. Just my two cents no `leaked' info here!

if they are in the batcave, and this movie follows the knightfall storyline, i am looking forward to this more than any other film.

i just can't see the progression from batman begins to knightfall though. too soon. bale just put the suit on, and he's in his 30s. maybe in 10 years.
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I just can't get excited about this.

Main reason is because Michelle Pfeiffer cannot be toppled as catwoman. In additional, she's much more gorgeous than the lanky chick.

I have a great amount of respect for Hathaway's acting abilities, and her hotness.

Unfortunately for her, there is and has been only ONE Catwoman.

Recently re-watched MP as The Cat.
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To me, in her prime, MP was the hottest 12 year old boy in the world. All a matter of taste, I know.

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I have a great amount of respect for Hathaway's acting abilities, and her hotness.

Unfortunately for her, there is and has been only ONE Catwoman.

Recently re-watched MP as The Cat.
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I just can't get excited about this.

Main reason is because Michelle Pfeiffer cannot be toppled as catwoman. In additional, she's much more gorgeous than the lanky chick.

Michelle Pfeiffer cannot be toppled at all. In 2011 or 1989 doesn't matter, end of debate. Period. Next question.


That said, I'm willing to give Anne Hathaway the benefit of the doubt here. She does have a smoking body btw. And as others already mentioned, she will most likely have something more interesting to do in the movie than just being the hot chick on the corner of the screen... Besides, Nolan usually manages to bring out the most of his actors imo so...we'll see...
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Michelle has a better body than Anne. Compare the legs. Next question.
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I've, personally, never considered Anne Hathaway hot. Sorry if this makes me gay or something. If this is the same chick that was the white queen in Alice in Wonderland, then I find her actually somewhat "disgusting" in that movie. For me, her face, pasty complexion, size, and her un-athletic build is completely unattractive to me.



The winner is obvious. Michelle Pfeiffer is essentially a clone of Sharon Stone. Both of those women are the real deal. Anne doesn't seem athletic enough to pull off a cat woman, which really bothers me. I expect some CGI, or 80% stuntwoman. Her bones are probably too fragile to where they couldn't handle backflips, and dropping off of a 3 foot ledge.

I guess some men like their women to be fragile like that; I don't. I think catwoman, by character definition should be athletic, so I think Anne is miscast.

Like I've said. I'm not excited. I'll see this movie. I'm just not excited.

One of the hottest women around today, and she would have been a much better fit for cat-woman. VERY athletic, and just clearly, clearly hotter:



WHY NOT!?!
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