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As I posted elsewhere I saw this last Saturday mainly for the Dolby Atmos experience. The 3D animation and sound were excellent however the story was a big disappointment. The heroine (if one can call her that) came off as a spoiled teenager and didn't redeem herself until the final act - this is not a spoiler believe me. I was hoping for something closer to Mulan but in Brave I couldn't connect with any of the characters which is a big flaw in any movie. If you're a 3D and sound enthusiast then go see this, if not, wait for the Blu-ray rental. If I had to rank this in the Pixar library it would be at the bottom. I know I'm an outlier since it's enjoying 84% audience approval on Rotten Tomatoes but I'm more in line with the critics that didn't enjoy it.

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As I posted elsewhere I saw this last Saturday mainly for the Dolby Atmos experience. The 3D animation and sound were excellent however the story was a big disappointment. The heroine (if one can call her that) came off as a spoiled teenager and didn't redeem herself until the final act - this is not a spoiler believe me. I was hoping for something closer to Mulan but in Brave I couldn't connect with any of the characters which is a big flaw in any movie. If you're a 3D and sound enthusiast then go see this, if not, wait for the Blu-ray rental. If I had to rank this in the Pixar library it would be at the bottom. I know I'm an outlier since it's enjoying 84% audience approval on Rotten Tomatoes but I'm more in line with the critics that didn't enjoy it.

I would think anyone with daughters, especially teenage daughters as I do, would get something extra from this. That said, I can't really disagree with what you said. It was pretty pedestrian and not nearly as thrilling as other Pixars or HTTYD which it bore visual similarities to. The ending will probably make up for alot and audiences will be happy when they leave. 13 movie premieres in a row Pixar has led the box office.

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I would think anyone with daughters, especially teenage daughters as I do, would get something extra from this. That said, I can't really disagree with you. It was pretty pedestrian and not nearly as thrilling as other Pixars or HTTYD which it bore visual similarities to. The ending will probably make up for alot and audiences will be happy when they leave. 13 movie premieres in a row Pixar has led the box office.

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Good or bad, I promised my son that I would take him to see it. We'll see where it ranks in the Pixar library.
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I wonder if Karmically Pixar sold its soul by making a sequel to Cars in order to facilitate the construction of an environment for Disney's California Adventure. This is not as big a disaster as Cars 2 but it's at the bottom of the Pixar canon. It looked as if it started to be a different picture from what it ended up as being. The groupthink has served Pixar well for most of its film product, but something went wrong this time.

Good 3-D, though.

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I wonder if Karmically Pixar sold its soul by making a sequel to Cars in order to facilitate the construction of an environment for Disney's California Adventure. This is not as big a disaster as Cars 2 but it's at the bottom of the Pixar canon. It looked as if it started to be a different picture from what it ended up as being. The groupthink has served Pixar well for most of its film product, but something went wrong this time.
Good 3-D, though.

You know I had some similar thoughts around this as well. I personally thought that Toy Story 2 aside (just from the perspective of capitalizing off the original), the only Pixar film that made the most sense of a sequel was The Incredibles. But in concept, "where do you go with a California Adventure?" I guess is the question. And Brave, I don't know, I just thought it was an odd concept, kind of like Mulan. There just seems to be so many other directions that you could take an adventure story with a heroine that are easier to relate to. And correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't this the only period presentation from Pixar? All others are modern stories, no?
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Saw this today. Very good story, even while not Pixar's best. But the animation in this is probably the most technically-marvelous anyone has yet produced. It is amazing what they have accomplished. Saw it with two children and two other adults; all of them were females, as was the writer and director of "Brave." The kids laughed often; the adults cried. I suppose the story worked as intended.

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Saw it with two children and two other adults; all of them were females, as was the writer and director of "Brave." The kids laughed often; the adults cried. I suppose the story worked as intended.
Probably going to see this one next week while on vacation. I won't cry, though, since I workout.

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Have fun with this article rolleyes.gif:

http://theweek.com/article/index/229891/is-braves-heroine-gay

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Probably going to see this one next week while on vacation. I won't cry, though, since I workout.


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Have fun with this article rolleyes.gif:

http://theweek.com/article/index/229891/is-braves-heroine-gay
Silly, and full of clichéd stereotypes. For example: the author believes the heroine of 'Brave' is gay because she "hates the prospect of marriage". Really? Most gay people I know want to get married. I wonder if the author knows who it is that is protesting gay marriage bans in states that have them.

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It looked as if it started to be a different picture from what it ended up as being.

That's exactly what happened. The movie was originally titled 'The Bear and the Bow' and was to be solely directed by Brenda Chapman (The Prince of Egypt). During production, the Pixar brass didn't like what she was doing, so they fired her and brought in two new directors to rework the material. Chapman still has a co-director credit for the amount of work she put in, but she had no involvement with the final direction that the film took.

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I kept thininkg it was almost a take on Brother Bear but for girls.
It's not bad just seemed disjointed.


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The movie was originally titled 'The Bear and the Bow'

All the bear business was what I found lacking. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I can see the idea of showing mother-daughter conflict, and making bears sympathetic might persuade future consumers of bear gall bladders and paws that this wholesale rush to make them extinct is not a very moral idea... But, to me anyhow, once that transformation occurs the picture turns into just standard Disney forced whimsey and just lies there. It was like chunks of Goblet of Fire grafted onto DIsney's Robin Hood and/or Sword in the Stone and/or... well, take your pick.

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Going in to watch this now, unfortunaley no Dolby Atmos here.

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Watched this today I really enjoyed it. Definitely will be added to my collection.

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Another Pixar that Im sure ill end up adding to my collection.

This will add up to my 3D movie collection for my LG 3D TV.
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The trailers had me very excited for Brave. I came away somewhat disappointed, because I was expecting great, and I got good. Still head and shoulders above most animated kids fare, but I was surprised at how much fish out of water and conventional gag type humor it relied on. All of the 'My Mom the Bear" segments didn't feel like Pixar to me.


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+1.

Glad I missed the lightning deal on a blind buy. It's kind of Pixar animation with Disney Studio writing the stories. The fish and water scene were classic Pixar goodness and brilliance in their use of technology, while the story was weak.

It would be better for my wife and daughter watching this one. The PQ is top notch but I'm not buying this one.

What happened to the creative talents in storytelling?
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