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so lucas still remains too cheap to do a 4k transfer even if it will improve the 3d quality of his re-release. just like the bds........................

Why do a 4k transfer for the re-release? Are there any 4K 3D Digital Cinemas? None I am aware of.
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So did anyone see this? The 3d in general is getting trashed from the comments I have read here and at bluray.com. One of the worst 2d to 3d conversions yet seems to be the general consensus with hardly any depth and basically no pop out. Not surprising, but did anyone else catch this?

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^^^ agreed. Although I don't mind having paid for all these different editions, after all *I* made the decision to buy. But I'm just tired of Star Wars now. I know them almost by heart. Besides I'm not sure 2012's kids are that much interested either in Star Wars. To them it's just another series of film, nothing special. Today kids want vampires, transformers and hobbits. So long Ewoks...

I see a lot of kids @ my daughter's school with Clone Wars T-shirts, lunchboxes, etc. And plastic lightsabers seem to have never gone out of vogue.

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Oh yeah, I've plenty of Star Wars backpacks at my daughter's elementary school the past couple of years.

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So did anyone see this? The 3d in general is getting trashed from the comments I have read here and at bluray.com. One of the worst 2d to 3d conversions yet seems to be the general consensus with hardly any depth and basically no pop out. Not surprising, but did anyone else catch this?

What?? How is that possible? Lucas is the self proclaimed technological Czar of cinematic progress, the Guru of the Bleeding Edge. Obviously those people are too blind to perceive his genius.
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The Real Force Behind 'Star Wars': How George Lucas Built an Empire

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Today Star Wars is consistently among the top five licensed toy brands, bringing in retail sales of more than $3 billion in 2011. "It truly is incredible for any property to remain a top seller within licensed merchandise for such a long time," says Anita Frazier, industry analyst for NPD Group, which tracks licensing

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But I'm just tired of Star Wars now. I know them almost by heart. Besides I'm not sure 2012's kids are that much interested either in Star Wars.

My 13 year old couldn't care less, either. In the past decade we've had Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Transformers and countless other Sci-fi/ Fx films. Star Wars will always have its fans, and Lucas has managed to keep it around with the Clone Wars show and the (subpar) prequel films, but the saga is simply not as groundbreaking and/or important to this generation, as it was to those who grew up on the OT. Star Wars to me will always be Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo, 'Ben' Kenobi, Yoda( the ESB puppet version) and Co.

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I went tonight with my son to a 70 foot wide screen theater. It was probably 85-90% full. One of the better recent theater experiences recently. Don't think I heard a cell phone or saw anyone's texting device out (maybe that's because the 3d glasses block out some light). The most wowing 3d stuff was the pod race (of course). Some of the exploding parts flying into racers made me almost wince. The light sabers didn't gain much. I really noticed it in a few strange places--where they were coming in for a landing on Coruscant, which is a fairly unremarkable 2d scene, but it was an overhead shot that really added realism.
Pretty pricey--$15 per adult, $13 per kid, but still, it's a chance to see it with my kids in a theater.
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Spot on. I bought my set watched them once won't be watching them again for quite a long while.

But there are moments of brilliance in the score that I don't mind revisiting once in a while. Remember CDs?
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But there are moments of brilliance in the score that I don't mind revisiting once in a while. Remember CDs?

That is one aspect of the film that has unquestionable brilliance. I just wish the 2-disc version of the Phantom Menace soundtrack wasn't arranged as an isolated score.
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I get a kick out of how the self professed one time hater of big studios and their emphasis on marketing over cinematic substance has himself become the biggest cinematic huckster of them all.
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Saw it last nite in 3D. Was curious as to how re-releases might look. To be honest not much of a difference between my 2D to 3D conversion on my Sony. Wife, mother in law and myself were not impressed, even my 6 year old noticed the poor 3D quality especially after some good previews. (Had similar experience with Toy Story).

The audio was pretty flat with minor lip sync issues. Still, they got to see it in the theater. Was very surprised at the clapping by the audience.
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I get a kick out of how the self professed one time hater of big studios and their emphasis on marketing over cinematic substance has himself become the biggest cinematic huckster of them all.

LOL - that's a hell of a "connect-the dots" argument if I ever saw one.
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So did anyone see this? The 3d in general is getting trashed from the comments I have read here and at bluray.com. One of the worst 2d to 3d conversions yet seems to be the general consensus with hardly any depth and basically no pop out. Not surprising, but did anyone else catch this?

Reading the reviews on bluray.com, I thought the majority were more positive than negative regarding the pq. Many just warned to lower expectations going in.

We know how much into the audio you are with films. For that alone don't bother seeing this from what I've been reading and that is most every post where the sound quality was touched upon.
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Reading the reviews on bluray.com, I thought the majority were more positive than negative regarding the pq. Many just warned to lower expectations going in.

We know how much into the audio you are with films. For that alone don't bother seeing this from what I've been reading and that is most every post where the sound quality was touched upon.

Did they remix the audio for this 3d version? The blu ray mix is fantastic. I can never judge audio fairly at a commercial theater anyway and always take the experience with a grain of salt until I can watch it at home.

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I can never judge audio fairly at a commercial theater anyway and always take the experience with a grain of salt until I can watch it at home.

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LOL - that's a hell of a "connect-the dots" argument if I ever saw one.

No argument; a simple statement. No one else markets merchandise for his movies the way Lucas does.
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No argument; a simple statement. No one else markets merchandise for his movies the way Lucas does.

I beg to differ . . . Disney.
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I don't know any technical stuff related to this, but I imagine since they're like ~90% CGI, the conversion shouldn't be that bad (much easier to convert CGI to 3D than live action that was shot in 2D).

CGI makes no difference in 2D to 3D conversions. The source is 2D and they just work with that. As far as I know they didn't go back to the original computer files and recompose shots or anything like that.
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CGI makes no difference in 2D to 3D conversions. The source is 2D and they just work with that. As far as I know they didn't go back to the original computer files and recompose shots or anything like that.

That's what I thought maybe they would do (you know....do it right). It's not like they'd have to recompose every shot (like I'm guessing the entire pod race must be about 100% CGI other than a couple composite shots of Anakin in the cockpit). Seems it would have been better to go back to the original computer files and just compose the 3D versions of it).

But apparently they didn't do anything like that.
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Just took my kids to see this today. First off, let me start by saying it was just cool seeing this on the big screen with my kids. I knew going in the 3D wasn't going to pop. In fact, there's a YouTube interview of Lucas saying he didn't want things to pop out at you. But instead give you a sense of depth. And I have to say that pretty much sums it up (although the 3D doesn't really add anything either).

My disappointment, if you can call it that, is in the audio, or lack thereof. When I watched TPM in my HT on BD, you could literally feel it in your ribs when the lightsabers struck one another. Also, the pod race was foundation cracking awesomeness at home. In this release in the theater, the audio seemed anemic and weak.

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Just took my kids to see this today. First off, let me start by saying it was just cool seeing this on the big screen with my kids. I knew going in the 3D wasn't going to pop. In fact, there's a YouTube interview of Lucas saying he didn't want things to pop out at you. But instead give you a sense of depth. And I have to say that pretty much sums it up (although the 3D doesn't really add anything either).

My disappointment, if you can call it that, is in the audio, or lack thereof. When I watched TPM in my HT on BD, you could literally feel it in your ribs when the lightsabers struck one another. Also, the pod race was foundation cracking awesomeness at home. In this release in the theater, the audio seemed anemic and weak.

Thanks waboman my daughter wanted to see it but ill pass.

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Thanks waboman my daughter wanted to see it but ill pass.

+1 Thought the 3d depth was good and "realistic." the whole movie looked soft and not HD-like as I expected but I haven't seen the movie in a couple years so maybe it was shot that way. Audio was less impressive than I was hoping for.
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Just took my kids to see this today. First off, let me start by saying it was just cool seeing this on the big screen with my kids. I knew going in the 3D wasn't going to pop. In fact, there's a YouTube interview of Lucas saying he didn't want things to pop out at you. But instead give you a sense of depth. And I have to say that pretty much sums it up (although the 3D doesn't really add anything either).

My disappointment, if you can call it that, is in the audio, or lack thereof. When I watched TPM in my HT on BD, you could literally feel it in your ribs when the lightsabers struck one another. Also, the pod race was foundation cracking awesomeness at home. In this release in the theater, the audio seemed anemic and weak.

Sooo.... based on this Lucas felt it was enough to bring it back out in theaters? No new content, nothing but some depth? WHAT THE BLUE HELL??? No one should have supported this money grubbing piece of trash
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Sooo.... based on this Lucas felt it was enough to bring it back out in theaters? No new content, nothing but some depth? WHAT THE BLUE HELL??? No one should have supported this money grubbing piece of trash

well it made 5 millions more than Red Tails on its first weekend. In 2012, 13 years after its original release, even the mayas didn't see that one coming!
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The Phantom Menace was way better than Red Tails.

Haven't seen it in 3D though.

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