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And your link? One way trip.

Nothing wrong with a one-way trip. Most immigrants, including the American colonists, come to new homes that way. There will be no shortage of volunteers. They will be known to history as the original Martians.
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Interesting. Using reality TV as a funding measure was a plotline from the short-lived 2009 Canadian TV series 'Defying Gravity'. It had a few cheesy soap-opera elements, but underneath was a solid, reasonably intelligent sci-fi show with potential. Needless to say, it flopped.
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And your link? One way trip.
Yes, 10 years from now. As for your prediction of centuries...
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Even with fusion powered ships, it is going to take us centuries to be able to get there and back in a reasonable amount of time such that a fat redhead woman can take a two week vacation up there.
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We can't even make net positive fusion reactors today, nor is it likely that bulk power will be available from fusion anytime soon.
Wright brothers' first flight was in 1903. In 1947, Chuck Yeager flew a rocket powered airplane faster than speed of sound. That's 44 years later.

Centuries, eh. We might as well look into Star Trek era.
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To get anywhere the petty arguing would have to stop and a common cause/reward for doing it to begin would have to be in place. When I say "we" I mean humans. We got a piece to go on that tip.
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Yes, 10 years from now.
Directly from your link:
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While the Mars spacecraft has yet to be designed, Lansdorp told the BIS audience that for the 210-day journey, the vehicle would have a hollow 660-gallon (2,500 liters) water tank with four compartments.

So it's a one way trip, and it takes 210 days to get there. This is a permanent home, not a vacation resort. Certainly not something that people go back and forth from. It took Chuck Yeager 44 years to reach Mach 1, but it's also been 44 years since Apollo 11 landed on the moon, and we haven't been back since 1972. At this stage, we're not even capable of going back to the moon.

I understand that technology has improved TREMENDOUSLY in the past 100 years, and I expect it to continue to improve at geometric rates, but I will stick with my "centuries" prediction for easy, accessible to the common man, interplanetary travel.

Either way, I'll let you have the last word, but I'm done with this discussion. This is a thread about a movie and we should get back to discussing the movie.

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Directly from your link:
So it's a one way trip, and it takes 210 days to get there. This is a permanent home, not a vacation resort. Certainly not something that people go back and forth from.
Is T. R. (1990) story based on 2023 technology?
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At this stage, we're not even capable of going back to the moon.
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This is a thread about a movie and we should get back to discussing the movie.
Yes, and you seem to focus and be critical a lot more on 1990 version with travel to Mars than 2012 version with earth's core travel.
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I understand that technology has improved TREMENDOUSLY in the past 100 years, and I expect it to continue to improve at geometric rates, but I will stick with my "centuries" prediction for easy, accessible to the common man, interplanetary travel.

If we don't stop the blind adherence to unwarranted austerity measures, just so multi-billionaires can have a little extra pocket money, then it might be centuries. Bold exploratory adventures have always been frighteningly expensive. So what? The thing that's different now is such massive expenditures can provide a huge economic boost, create thousands if not millions of good jobs, and create spin-off technologies that benefit all mankind. They're a net gain for humanity.

But the biggest reason to get our act in gear about getting off this planet and spreading out amongst the cosmos is every few million years or so the earth has a very bad day. One day, the cosmos (in the form of a big, honkin' space-rock) will come to visit us. Or the sun could suddenly erupt and fire an enormous jet of high-energy plasma directly in our path that would swamp our magnetosphere and blanket the planet in deadly radiation. Or a massive super-volcano (like the colossal magma dome that's building under Yellowstone Park) could erupt that blots out the sun for years and causes a massive die-off. Or we nuke ourselves into oblivion. And then it's sayonara, human race.

That day could happen a million years from now, or it could happen next month. Time to get crackin'. smile.gif
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As I said before, the whole "going through the center of the earth" deal didn't bother me a bit. It's sci-fi. Does time-travel get a pass then?

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As I said before, the whole "going through the center of the earth" deal didn't bother me a bit. It's sci-fi. Does time-travel get a pass then?

Cary

Didn't bother me either. It's a movie, a fantasy created for our entertainment. It's when people try to say such a thing might be possible in the real world that I say "whoa!".
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Nothing wrong with a one-way trip. Most immigrants, including the American colonists, come to new homes that way.
Yeah, and look what happened to them:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130501-jamestown-cannibalism-archeology-science/

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Good for them....I would rather be spending my declining years in my boat cursing the Fish Gods.tongue.gif

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Yeah, and look what happened to them:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130501-jamestown-cannibalism-archeology-science/

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Good for them....I would rather be spending my declining years in my boat cursing the Fish Gods.tongue.gif

I'll send you a postcard. "It's minus 130º and hasn't rained for 2 billion years. Wish you were here!" tongue.gif
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I'll send you a postcard. "It's minus 130º and hasn't rained for 2 billion years.
But no worries about terrorist bombs, no limits on how much soda you can drink and you get to keep what you earn. smile.gif
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But no worries about terrorist bombs
Wait...wha?
What is the title of this thread???

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Interesting. Using reality TV as a funding measure was a plotline from the short-lived 2009 Canadian TV series 'Defying Gravity'. It had a few cheesy soap-opera elements, but underneath was a solid, reasonably intelligent sci-fi show with potential. Needless to say, it flopped.

And just a few months before that, it also was the premise of a (very similar but less soapy) pilot called Virtuality that Fox aired as a TV movie but declined to pick up as a series.

The pilot episode was good. Interesting story. At least a reasonable attempt to adhere to realistic physics (no sound in space or faster-than-light travel). It had potential, but ended on a cliffhanger that will never be resolved.

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Centuries, eh. We might as well look into Star Trek era.

According to First Contact, isn't the Warp Drive invented in 2063? That's only half a century..

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According to First Contact, isn't the Warp Drive invented in 2063? That's only half a century..
Beyond that is still Star Trek ear, isn't it?
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Wait...wha?
What is the title of this thread???
Don't you recall? frown.gif
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Don't you recall? frown.gif
No, not totally....biggrin.gif

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For all you Martian astronots:
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/how-north-korea-proves-we-arent-going-to-mars-anytime-soon/

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And for those Martian astronauts with less craving for comedy and more for the science: http://news.yahoo.com/time-serious-going-mars-nasa-says-161440052.html
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And for those Martian astronauts with less craving for comedy and more for the science: http://news.yahoo.com/time-serious-going-mars-nasa-says-161440052.html
Thanx for the link.

Sorry, I have been out of town this week and couldn't get on the forum.wink.gif

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