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Actually this show originally aired in May 2011 so it's on the older side. But it's fun to post an article like this and watch the angry bees swarm around.

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Actually this show originally aired in May 2011 so it's on the older side. But it's fun to post an article like this and watch the angry bees swarm around.

hehe indeed! ...cause ultimately who cares? My gear pales in comparison to many avs members, yet that doesn't prevent me from enjoying my movies in HD and lossless sound on a relatively large screen. That's all I'm asking for now. I'm sure Oliver has a decent rig .......I'm actually more interested in his next film, Savages, than his HT...
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I have a nice theater but not as nice as many out there. I have, however, seen essentially every projector out there including 4K units and DCI DLP running my favorite BDs. You have to pay to get the best image quality. If that matters than you are going to pay over 25,000 USD for that projector. If that doesn't matter to you then that is your business. If the animal shelter is more important to you then that is money well spent.



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Interesting video...OS seems somewhat disconnected...as usual.

I guess living in L.A. gives one the ability to get people who know what the hell they're doing....something I never seem to find in Oregon.

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There's no way I'm going to watch the video; I just don't care what Stone has or not, or how he spends his money.

What I really want to know is to what extent, and just how far up in the highest levels of government were they involved, was the military-industrial complex involved in designing and installing his home theater rig?

Was this skinny blond chick just the patsy?
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There's no way I'm going to watch the video; I just don't care what Stone has or not, or how he spends his money.

What I really want to know is to what extent, and just how far up in the highest levels of government were they involved, was the military-industrial complex involved in designing and installing his home theater rig?

Was this skinny blond chick just the patsy?

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Ok I just saw another DIY show with vanilla ice and this ep was called Boom Boom screening room and this was a true dedicated home theater and not a casual family room/library like the one with oliver stone.

And vanilla ice asked the same gal Janna Robinson for her input on the HT components and in all fairness she did a much better job this time. They had 12 chairs that alone cost 45k and for the proj I think it was a Mits HC7800. Now this HT could have used that runco LS10 25K if they allocated 45k for just the chairs.

I still would never use her service because I just don't like or trust these consultants that cater to the celebrities and rich & famous. 2nd I've been putting together HT myself when she was still in Jr high so it's not like I'm totally clueless like her clients are. It's the same with those personal chef's that cater to celebrities and rich. I think they're fake knowing they can give Hi tech advise to the likes of paris hilton, rob lowe, and torri spelling who wouldn't know their butt hole from a Bose set up and told them it was the best and they would believe it. And Janna knows she can get away with it racking up the budget and getting paid copious amount of money.
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think they're fake knowing they can give Hi tech advise to the likes of paris hilton, rob lowe, and torri spelling who wouldn't know their butt hole from a Bose set up and told them it was the best and they would believe it. And Janna knows she can get away with it racking up the budget and getting paid copious amount of money.

That's just about everywhere really. My brother law got stung like that I told him ill help him but the salesman talked BS and he got taken to the cleaners. Live and learn I guess.

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Btw there's another thing that really sticks out and irks me. All of Janna's installs like the one with Kevin connelly, Nancy Odell, and oliver stone, and I think all of them have been with only Runco LS proj's and Integra receivers. I mean that's just easy, sure it's not my money. Plus there's no doubt to me she's getting big ass kick backs or bonuses from Runco and Integra.

Except with Vanilla ice project which was not really her install but as consultant and favor for him, she probably wanted Runco but the owner's probably said hell no and went with Mits.
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plus there's no doubt to me she's getting big ass kick backs or bonuses from runco and integra.

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I have a nice theater but not as nice as many out there. I have, however, seen essentially every projector out there including 4K units and DCI DLP running my favorite BDs. You have to pay to get the best image quality. If that matters than you are going to pay over 25,000 USD for that projector. If that doesn't matter to you then that is your business. If the animal shelter is more important to you then that is money well spent.



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I'm getting ready to build a new house with [finally!] a dedicated theater room (seating 6 or 8) and realize I need to go through a learning curve. Starting with proper room dimensions, acoustics, and then equipment. I simply want the best stuff available at a "mid-range" budget. I don't need a $25 projector, but I want the best ~$10-15k projector available. I don't need a $10k screen, but I want the best ~$3-5k motorized screen available. I want a plasma behind the screen and, again, doesn't need to be a Pioneer Kuro (as if you could actually find one) but something close. And so on...

How do I find these things out without getting even more confused & befuddled? Frankly, I'm a little intimidated at the build forums here. Like many specialized forums on AVS, they seem to cater to those who already know most of the answers and can quickly sort through the chaff.

There are so many options, and I just need to find the best one that fits my mid-range budget. Any advice from those who have gone through this painful process? Where do you start?
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At that price range you've given it's pretty easy IMO because there's really only a few and they are the best in that range and if you head over the 3K+ proj forum, many AVS members will no doubt steer towards a JVC X90R, Sony VW 95 or Runco LS7. As for screen Stewart studio tek 130 or a Diamond screen.

Oh one more thing, IF I would to pick a 25K proj for my ultra rich clients I would rather much go with the only 4k proj Sony's VW 1000ES. Btw were you one of the ppl who got 5 #'s in that 640 mil mega mil lottery fiasco?
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That's just about everywhere really. My brother law got stung like that I told him ill help him but the salesman talked BS and he got taken to the cleaners. Live and learn I guess.

You know whats really strange and detrimental is that our own family and closest friends would sometimes go with some high faluten BS advice from total strangers rather than listen to some sensibility from the people closest to them...I have noticed that
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At that price range you've given it's pretty easy IMO because there's really only a few and they are the best in that range and if you head over the 3K+ proj forum, many AVS members will no doubt steer towards a JVC X90R, Sony VW 95 or Runco LS7. As for screen Stewart studio tek 130 or a Diamond screen.

Nah, I'm one of those who look at lotteries as a tax on people who are bad at math. Nevertheless, somebody does win, and that's why my wife bought 10 tickets. Umm, we didn't win.

I'm not opposed to having the best, and sometimes that's both possible and financially feasible. Headphones for example - you can get the very best there is for about $600. So I did. I drive a pretty sweet car, but I waited 6 years and 80k miles for it to depreciate to the point where I could safely afford it. HT gear seems kind of like that to me. The difference between a high-midrange version of a component and the very best represents a small fraction on a logarithmically decreasing scale, I figure -- but it may cost twice as much. If a Runco LS7 is 95% of that projector Ollie just bought, that's probably more than my middle aged eyes can discern anyways. Same with the sound system, I'm guessing.

That's the sweet spot I'm looking for.
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The difference between a high-midrange version of a component and the very best represents a small fraction on a logarithmically decreasing scale, I figure -- but it may cost twice as much. If a Runco LS7 is 95% of that projector Ollie just bought, that's probably more than my middle aged eyes can discern anyways. Same with the sound system, I'm guessing.

That's the sweet spot I'm looking for.

Exactly my thoughts.
You can get 90% or more of the performance of the high-end with mid-level stuff.

I am thinking of getting my first FP (primarily because of the portability), but won't be doing the full room thing.
I have winter and summer homes I go back and forth to depending on the season and doubt I'll be keeping either for the long term, so doing the full deal isn't wise.

My problem is I have yet to see a FP bright enough to suit my tastes.

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I am thinking of getting my first FP (primarily because of the portability), but won't be doing the full room thing.

Cool. Welcome to the club. FP means BIG, and if you size the screen to your room and viewing distance correctly, IMMERSIVE. It really is like at the movies.


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My problem is I have yet to see a FP bright enough to suit my tastes.

You probably know this already, but no projector can compete with the sun. Ambient light control (blocking it coming through windows during the day, artificial lights at night) is critical to allowing the FP to do its thang. If you can't or won't just for aesthetic reasons control the light coming into the room down to near theater levels, then FP ain't for you.

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You probably know this already, but no projector can compete with the sun. Ambient light control (blocking it coming through windows during the day, artificial lights at night) is critical to allowing the FP to do its thang. If you can't or won't just for aesthetic reasons control the light coming into the room down to near theater levels, then FP ain't for you.

Light be gone and you too can join the club.

I have darkened both HT rooms to absolute black and the FPs I see in showrooms (never dark enough IMO) haven't wowed me.

I am a little leary of dropping 15k on a projector and not being happy with it...

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I don't need a $25 projector

Me, too; those things only last about a week

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Exactly my thoughts.
You can get 90% or more of the performance of the high-end with mid-level stuff.

Very true!

I just upgraded my audio gear, and went with ID companies that have much lower overhead than those who advertise in all the magazines, etc. The components I chose have very good specs, reviewed very high, and have a loyal customer base. They weren't cheap but compare well to those costing many times more.

Regarding Art S. comment about spending 25K for a projector, I think viewing habits need to be taken into consideration. My current dedicated room is much smaller than most at 10x12. I like to be "immersed", so I have a large screen for the room size (8 feet). At that viewing distance, the only PJ's that will work for me have been Panasonic, with 'smoothscreen'.

I've auditioned, and owned other brands/technologies, but they all had visible SDE at my viewing distance. (JVC, Sony (LCoS, SXRD) won't throw a big enough picture in that room.)

My new PJ (PT-AE7000 480hz 3D) looks excellent to me. In a black velvet covered room, and a Dalite High Power screen, it looks like a giant plasma.

I'm sure there are better PJ's, and I may consider others if I ever build a bigger room. Right now I'm in home theatre nirvana.

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My current dedicated room is much smaller than most at 10x12. I like to be "immersed", so I have a large screen for the room size (8 feet). At that viewing distance, the only PJ's that will work for me have been Panasonic, with 'smoothscreen'.

I've auditioned, and owned other brands/technologies, but they all had visible SDE at my viewing distance. (JVC, Sony (LCoS, SXRD) won't throw a big enough picture in that room.)

My new PJ (PT-AE7000 480hz 3D) looks excellent to me. In a black velvet covered room, and a Dalite High Power screen, it looks like a giant plasma.

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If a Runco LS7 is 95% of that projector Ollie just bought, that's probably more than my middle aged eyes can discern anyways. Same with the sound system, I'm guessing.

That's the sweet spot I'm looking for.

I would be surprised if you can discern much between the LS 7 & LS5 . The LS5 at 7K got editor's pick 5 tickets from Home theater mag and with a good screen would probably meet your sweet spot and you could spend the extra savings on a cruise with the wife.

http://www.hometheater.com/frontproj...dlp_projector/
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I have darkened both HT rooms to absolute black and the FPs I see in showrooms (never dark enough IMO) haven't wowed me.

I am a little leary of dropping 15k on a projector and not being happy with it...

Are you serious? put that dough back in your pocket. For 2.5K you will be blown away with Epson new 5010 (wireless for 300 more) or this BenQ W7000 both are light canons. There's no sense in watching your big titles like MI 4 in anything less than 100". Look at these screenshots here from the BenQ 7000 MSRP 3,499 but right now is on sale at VisualApex for $2100 shipped.
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^That's impressive brightness.

Is the Benq a DLP?

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Though it's hard to be sure just from watching video, it seems to me Janna consistently mounts the projection screens too high (as in not optimal viewing level).
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Here are some of mine which is from a 5 yr old out dated 1080UB ISF calibrated on entry accuscreen 100" in eco cinema mode on LOW brightness ok and is not that bad. Those new ones are much brighter, sharper and 3D. I know,..I'm due for a upgrade. Just want to give you a real life sample without perfect settings.
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Are you serious? put that dough back in your pocket. For 2.5K you will be blown away with Epson new 5010 (wireless for 300 more) or this BenQ W7000 both are light canons. There's no sense in watching your big titles like MI 4 in anything less than 100". Look at these screenshots here from the BenQ 7000 MSRP 3,499 but right now is on sale at VisualApex for $2100 shipped.

Very nice pics, zoey.

If I were in the market for one, that BenQ would be awfully hard to pass up. Unfortunately, I can't upgrade at the moment. Nevertheless, I'm content for now with my Marantz 720p DLP I snagged a few years ago. I've replaced the lamp a couple of times, but the one I'm on now will be my last one.
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I have darkened both HT rooms to absolute black and the FPs I see in showrooms (never dark enough IMO) haven't wowed me.

I am a little leary of dropping 15k on a projector and not being happy with it...

Yeah, you've been looking in the wrong places.
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Yeah, you've been looking in the wrong places.

I think you're right...

I live in Oregon, and Oregon is almost a one-horse state.
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