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At least they're off to a good start. Lots of potential here with the story but I'm sure Hollywood will screw it up.

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Do we need a 3rd Carrie?? (a rhetorical question) But, my mistake, this is a 'reboot'. A different interpretation of the book... Yeah, right. The pocket 'book'.

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Do we need a 3rd Carrie?? (a rhetorical question) But, my mistake, this is a 'reboot'. A different interpretation of the book... Yeah, right. The pocket 'book'.

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I am SO sick to death of these frickin' re-makes, reboots, re-imaginings, or whatever the suits spin it as....
And yes it is ALL about $$$.

I guess the only way this will stop is if people stop buying tickets to see them.

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Undoubtedly, it will be PG-13. Which means that the famous opening shower scene will be excised.

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Undoubtedly, it will be PG-13. Which means that the famous opening shower scene will be excised.

Sissy was 26 years old when she filmed the original. Our new star is only 15, you can't have the same scene, even if it was NC17.....

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The main star is too young for me to find this enjoyable.

For me, films of this particular nature work best when women in their mid-20s to early 30s pass off as high school students.
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The main star is too young for me to find this enjoyable.

For me, films of this particular nature work best when women in their mid-20s to early 30s pass off as high school students.

Hehehe.

These remakes are out of control. I looked up recent MGM horror movies to see if there's a slight chance it gets a R and saw they are remaking Poltergeist too?


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Sissy was 26 years old when she filmed the original. Our new star is only 15, you can't have the same scene, even if it was NC17.....

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The main star is too young for me to find this enjoyable.

For me, films of this particular nature work best when women in their mid-20s to early 30s pass off as high school students.

This is true. I feel the need to clarify that my previous comment should not be read as me expressing a desire to see Chloe Moretz naked. I was merely comparing the watered-down horror genre of today with that of 30 years ago.

Also, the graphic nature of the scene in the original film had real emotional power that instantly made us understand and empathize with the main character. I'm hard-pressed to think of anything that could be done in a PG-13 movie that would achieve the same effect.

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Sissy was 26 years old when she filmed the original. Our new star is only 15, you can't have the same scene, even if it was NC17.....

Gotta love 26 year old HS students !!
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This film cannot possibly work as a PG-13 film. It is another example of ADULT material that has t be handled properly, otherwise you neuter it down to the point of it having no power at all.

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I am SO sick to death of these frickin' re-makes, reboots, re-imaginings, or whatever the suits spin it as....
And yes it is ALL about $$$.

I guess the only way this will stop is if people stop buying tickets to see them.

I have no problem with that. Movies were remade in previous generations too. Younger people like to see actors they are familiar with. However, I agree with Matt_Stevens, and Josh; when they try to shoehorn everything into PG-13, it does a disservice to much of the material.

Just be glad we grew up when movies weren't watered down all the time.

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This film cannot possibly work as a PG-13 film. It is another example of ADULT material that has t be handled properly, otherwise you neuter it down to the point of it having no power at all.

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Loved her in Kick Ass, well, kicking ass and CURSING. Doubt if there will be any cursing and can't imagine the violence being stellar either.

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Loved her in Kick Ass, well, kicking ass and CURSING. Doubt if there will be any cursing and can't imagine the violence being stellar either.

I don't know what the re-make will be like and I don't like to speculate, however, Chloe Moretz is a great young actress and has the screen hootspa to pull it off ...

I do feel sure Stephen King is happy to collect another check ..

It's a rehash of a remake of a make over of a redone .. to paraphrase Woody Allen ..

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Why bother to paraphrase when the exact quote works perfectly?

This remake "is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham."

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Sissy was 26 years old when she filmed the original. Our new star is only 15, you can't have the same scene, even if it was NC17.....

Ever seen European flicks? Also they could use a body double, which happens more often one thinks , but I do see your point....

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Ever seen European flicks? Also they could use a body double, which happens more often one thinks , but I do see your point....

Exactly what I was about to say... and it wouldn't surprise me if it happened in this movie.

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Why bother to paraphrase when the exact quote works perfectly?

This remake "is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham."

Because until I see it, I won't know if it's a travesty/sham/mockery ..

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This remake "is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham."

A great line....


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it wouldn't surprise me if it happened in this movie.

Me neither.
Frankly, I don't know why there is always brouhaha whenever this situation comes up here....

BFD....movies are ALL about illusion.
If nakedness or explicit sex is a requirement, hey, that's what God invented porn for.

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I adore Chloe Moretz. She absolutely stole KA and was great in LMI. She is easily to me at least, the best young actress since Jodie Foster. She has genuine screen presence. So, Chloe, please don't walk- run away from this project. Please.

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I was thinking about this thread while watching HBO’s Game of Thrones. It’s rather ironic that TV, particularly pay TV, has become much more explicit in its depiction of sex and violence (GOT is as “R rated” as any movie from the 70s), while movies have backed away from the freedom in the 70s to be more adult and opted for the “safer” PG-13 route. It's unfortunate, because it would be interesting to see how a gifted actress like Chloe Moretz would handle an R rated role like this as an adult.
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Just be glad we grew up when movies weren't watered down all the time.

Speak fer yerself. Us baby boomers grew up when "family entertainment" was still the order of the day. It really didn't truly open up until probably Goodbye Columbus in 1969.

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It’s rather ironic that TV, particularly pay TV, has become much more explicit in its depiction of sex and violence (GOT is as “R rated” as any movie from the 70s), while movies have backed away from the freedom in the 70s to be more adult and opted for the “safer” PG-13 route. .

It really is ironic.
However, the movie biz is really about $$$ and not freedom.
Pay TV concentrates on finding niche audiences, which is a little different.

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Just be glad we grew up when movies weren't watered down all the time.

Speak fer yerself. Us baby boomers grew up when "family entertainment" was still the order of the day. It really didn't truly open up until probably Goodbye Columbus in 1969.

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It really is ironic.
However, the movie biz is really about $$$ and not freedom.
Pay TV concentrates on finding niche audiences, which is a little different.

That is such a great insight it borders on profound. With so many channels, tv series have to risk being daring to stand out. meanwhile the costs of a major film have grown so high the studios don't want to risk alienating any of their potential audience so they become increasingly bland.Its a complete reversal of the 60's-70's.

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That is such a great insight it borders on profound. With so many channels, tv series have to risk being daring to stand out. meanwhile the costs of a major film have grown so high the studios don't want to risk alienating any of their potential audience so they become increasingly bland.Its a complete reversal of the 60's-70's.

We really have 2 different Hollywoods today, one is the major studio big buck extravaganza, and the other is the "indie Hollywood" that produces films for other interest and tend to take more risks. They also tend to cross borders and oceans to find investors and audiences, yet they care more about peer recognition then money. I do agree that pay TV does push the envelope, and if we complaining about Hollywood today, we can certainly rejoice about what's on TV vs 30 years ago.Well, at least I do.

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WHO would have thunk 30 years ago it would be possible to find more explicit (excluding porn) sexual material (maybe "innuendo" is a better word) on Cable/Satellite soap operas than in a movie theater?
To be honest, during the last 10 years, I have seen stuff that made me blush.....

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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood
Just be glad we grew up when movies weren't watered down all the time.

Speak fer yerself. Us baby boomers grew up when "family entertainment" was still the order of the day. It really didn't truly open up until probably Goodbye Columbus in 1969.

The Graduate.


Great movie, but nothing much as far as nudity. And here and there you would see nudity earlier: The President's Analyst and some foreign films. And for more adult matter there was Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? But Goodbye, Columbus was the one I remember. Lots of Ali McGraw in the shower. (Though when I saw it later lots of the nudity disappeared, as it seemed to be projected in the proper aspect ratio. The early theatrical stuff may not have had the projector having the proper mask applied. Much appreciated by young college boys such as myself.)

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