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General Kenobi's Avatar General Kenobi 11:40 AM 04-24-2013
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I agree Fox doesn't have a great deal of charisma....in fact, I'm kinda surprised he has been able to rise so far.
He is more of an internal actor, than a projecting-type.
+1
The scenes with Jackson, Waltz, and Leo you almost forgot Fox was in the film. Each of the others were fantastic. I also blame the writing a bit, Django just wasn't written to be all that interesting. Some background would have been nice... how does he know how to ride a horse or operate pistols and rifles? I know there are naturals out there but they still learn trigger discipline, breath control, sight picture, etc. Anyways, QT did a decent job of mixing in some camp humor. The bag scene being the most amusing however I felt some of the other bits missed the mark. Although Don Cheadle is a bit one dimensional I think I would have much preferred him or even Denzel for the Django character... Ving Rhames or Djimon Hounsou could have also been pretty fun in that role.

darthrsg's Avatar darthrsg 11:48 AM 04-24-2013
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Finally got around to seeing this last night and enjoyed it but thought it was overhyped. Christoph Waltz and the cinematography were the best things going for it although I admit I am not much of a J Fox fan. That said I thought his character came across bland next to Waltz who just oozes charisma. There was a lot to like with the film and I did enjoy most of it, just wasn't as good as I hoped it would be. IB is probably QT's high watermark in my library.

Can't argue much here.
Matt_Stevens's Avatar Matt_Stevens 12:27 PM 04-24-2013
I am beginning to think Waltz plays the same guy in all his movies. His voice is so distinct that it's hard for him to do anything else with it.
oink's Avatar oink 12:27 PM 04-24-2013
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The scenes with Jackson, Waltz, and Leo you almost forgot Fox was in the film. Each of the others were fantastic. I also blame the writing a bit, Django just wasn't written to be all that interesting. Some background would have been nice... how does he know how to ride a horse or operate pistols and rifles? I know there are naturals out there but they still learn trigger discipline, breath control, sight picture, etc. Anyways, QT did a decent job of mixing in some camp humor. The bag scene being the most amusing however I felt some of the other bits missed the mark. Although Don Cheadle is a bit one dimensional I think I would have much preferred him or even Denzel for the Django character... Ving Rhames or Djimon Hounsou could have also been pretty fun in that role.
Also the late Michael Duncan (RIP) would have been a good choice...

I heard QT originally wanted: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

General Kenobi's Avatar General Kenobi 12:37 PM 04-24-2013
Duncan would have rocked it... Axel Foley, not so much.
darthrsg's Avatar darthrsg 12:40 PM 04-24-2013
Duncan would have been WAY BADASS.
Aliens's Avatar Aliens 01:03 PM 04-24-2013
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Some background would have been nice...

I was close to being comatose by the end. Add that; I’m 6’ under. tongue.gif


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... how does he know how to ride a horse or operate pistols and rifles?

I thought I remembered Waltz giving him shooting lessons.


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Also the late Michael Duncan (RIP) would have been a good choice...


Duncan would have been much to imposing. His size alone would have intimidated all those honkies (fair and balanced). They would have needed a Clydesdale for him. Nah, doesn't work.
darthrsg's Avatar darthrsg 01:16 PM 04-24-2013
Duncan's size might have played well in the Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
mandingo ruse

but yeah probably too much.

Lennie James in the reboot.
General Kenobi's Avatar General Kenobi 01:19 PM 04-24-2013
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I was close to being comatose by the end. Add that; I’m 6’ under. tongue.gif
I thought I remembered Waltz giving him shooting lessons.
Duncan would have been much to imposing. His size alone would have intimidated all those honkies (fair and balanced). They would have needed a Clydesdale for him. Nah, doesn't work.
I don't recall him getting lessons, especially not with the rifle but it's not a deal breaker. I was feeling about the same, checking the time to see 30 min left of the film I was very sad that I drank the last of my bourbon over the weekend. I also had just seen Lincoln a few nights before so was somewhat burned out on related topics/excessive use of N word, etc. by the end.

I guess having a Duncan size Django in would have negated the need for such a meeting with Leo, which probably puts Ving Rhames and Djimon Hounsou out as well. This clearly leaves us with only one viable replacement for Foxx:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

oink's Avatar oink 04:15 PM 04-24-2013
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I was going to mention him, but Axel makes me nostalgic for a time when the guy was funny.wink.gif
sb1's Avatar sb1 04:43 PM 05-03-2013
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I am beginning to think Waltz plays the same guy in all his movies. His voice is so distinct that it's hard for him to do anything else with it.
I absolutely love this movie, but I must admit that was my first thought when he was explaining to DaJango what he did for a living.
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 09:12 PM 05-03-2013
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Some background would have been nice... how does he know how to ride a horse or operate pistols and rifles? I know there are naturals out there but they still learn trigger discipline, breath control, sight picture, etc. Anyways, QT did a decent job of mixing in some camp humor.
Yup, I think you got caught red handed partner. You didn't watch the whole movie or FF some parts or else you would have seen Waltz train Django in all those endeavors..shooting, riding horses, even dressing him up and coaching proper etiquette manners and speech to be free slave mandigo expert.

Plus cmon how hard is it to shoot esp when you're strong like Django. Sh1t man the 1st time someone took me to a shooting range I was only 17, 105 lbs and shot everything 9mm, .38. .45 caliber no problem at all hit my target and everyhing like it was nothing because we been playing cops and robbers so much growing up.
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 09:16 PM 05-03-2013
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I am beginning to think Waltz plays the same guy in all his movies. His voice is so distinct that it's hard for him to do anything else with it.
I know man. I can't believe they gave him the Oscar for pretty much playing the same exact bounty hunter character just in a different time and country. But what the hell the guy can play a passive aggressive witty charming bounty hunter. I bet he'll do it again too

Btw you guys are high if you think Duncan is right for the part. Hell no, Django was a young whipper snapper rebel slave who just lost his wife and that's the whole arc. Duncan's is too old an mild manner to be a revel slave ok, and imagine how his character will pair up with Hilda..it would have been ridiculous. That's a terrible casting choice man.
bcruiser's Avatar bcruiser 12:10 PM 05-05-2013
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Sh1t man the 1st time someone took me to a shooting range I was only 17, 105 lbs and shot everything 9mm, .38. .45 caliber no problem at all hit my target and everyhing like it was nothing because we been playing cops and robbers so much growing up.
Which one were you?
1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PUXbo3tCo
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VXm3Pbz2cs
bcruiser's Avatar bcruiser 12:14 PM 05-05-2013
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That's a terrible casting choice man.
Agreed. But even the pros are not immune to terrible choices . There are too many examples to list. frown.gif
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 01:56 PM 05-05-2013
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Which one were you?
1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PUXbo3tCo
2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VXm3Pbz2cs
Ha ha,..that ain't me in the 1st one brother man...she's a lame tard. I shot em the 1st time like Mel gibson in LW holding the 9mm sideways my 1st crack at it.
Aliens's Avatar Aliens 02:46 PM 05-05-2013
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Sh1t man the 1st time someone took me to a shooting range I was only 17, 105 lbs and shot everything 9mm, .38. .45 caliber no problem at all hit my target and everyhing like it was nothing because we been playing cops and robbers so much growing up.
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I shot em the 1st time like Mel gibson in LW holding the 9mm sideways my 1st crack at it.


That person should have had their license suspended for allowing a teenager to shoot a gun “Hollywood, thug style” for the first time. Totally unprofessional and irresponsible.
oink's Avatar oink 12:32 AM 05-06-2013
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That person should have had their license suspended for allowing a teenager to shoot a gun “Hollywood, thug style” for the first time. Totally unprofessional and irresponsible.
And then there is this:



zoey67's Avatar zoey67 02:14 AM 05-06-2013
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That person should have had their license suspended for allowing a teenager to shoot a gun “Hollywood, thug style” for the first time. Totally unprofessional and irresponsible.
Lighten up there alright Judge Judy,,, don't get your panties all tied up. It was at the Beverly hills gun club and the worker there was standing right there beside us knowing full well it was my 1st time and didn't have a issue with what he was witnessing ok so couldn't have been that bad.
darthrsg's Avatar darthrsg 12:08 PM 05-06-2013
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I absolutely love this movie, but I must admit that was my first thought when he was explaining to DaJango what he did for a living.

The D is silent.
pclement's Avatar pclement 11:17 AM 05-21-2013
Exactly! I mentioned that to my wife and she thought it was invented in the 1850's. Did not really come to use in the US until after the Civil War. Most of the weapons in the movie were more 1880 than 1850. Tough to shoot multiple men with a musket.
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 05:15 PM 01-12-2014
It's official now, QT next will be another western. And top of that cherry a part is already written for C Waltz. Seems like QT is in love with this man..can't blame him.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the movie is titled The Hateful Eight and Tarantino hopes to start shooting this summer. The site says that a part has been written for Christoph Waltz, who starred in Tarantino's Django Unchained and Inglourious Basterds.
oink's Avatar oink 06:40 PM 01-12-2014
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It's official now, QT next will be another western. And top of that cherry a part is already written for C Waltz. Seems like QT is in love with this man..can't blame him.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, the movie is titled The Hateful Eight and Tarantino hopes to start shooting this summer. The site says that a part has been written for Christoph Waltz, who starred in Tarantino's Django Unchained and Inglourious Basterds.
QT's spaghetti Western?

Kinda wish he would do a different genre....
Maybe something like a spy thriller?
Tack's Avatar Tack 06:52 PM 01-12-2014
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Kinda wish he would do a different genre....
Maybe something like a spy thriller?

Me too. I never even finished Django. Got about half way. Funny thing is that there are multiple QT movies in my top twenty.
gwsat's Avatar gwsat 08:32 PM 01-12-2014
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Me too. I never even finished Django. Got about half way. Funny thing is that there are multiple QT movies in my top twenty.

Amazing! Despite my notorious cheapness, I preordered the Django BD. It is one of several Tarantino films that I happily watch over and over again. 10 Stars out of 10, but what do I know? smile.gif
oink's Avatar oink 12:25 AM 01-13-2014
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Me too. I never even finished Django. Got about half way.
If you look at QT's previous stuff, Django is somewhat perplexing.
It feels bloated to some extent....especially the goofy final act.
zoey67's Avatar zoey67 03:14 AM 01-13-2014
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QT's spaghetti Western?

Kinda wish he would do a different genre....
Maybe something like a spy thriller?
Same here bud. However, QT was on Leno this week saying how much fun he had with DU,,,so perhaps he's got more in his bag of western tricks that he doesn't want to waste. I'm not a fan when a director does a double dip with back to back genre like Tony Scott did with the subway and train plot. I'll be like..WHY? at least skip one then come back.

Well, as long as he gives us another dandy like Django I'm good with that. But then again...gggrrrr the guy is so brilliant in the director's chair I like for him to do something he hasn't done yet like a historic piece like Braveheart, or an all out comedy like Ted which is so up his sleeve with the fast witty dialogue.
sb1's Avatar sb1 06:25 AM 01-13-2014
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Same here bud. However, QT was on Leno this week saying how much fun he had with DU,,,so perhaps he's got more in his bag of western tricks that he doesn't want to waste. I'm not a fan when a director does a double dip with back to back genre like Tony Scott did with the subway and train plot. I'll be like..WHY? at least skip one then come back.

Well, as long as he gives us another dandy like Django I'm good with that. But then again...gggrrrr the guy is so brilliant in the director's chair I like for him to do something he hasn't done yet like a historic piece like Braveheart, or an all out comedy like Ted which is so up his sleeve with the fast witty dialogue.
I'm not sure how Tarantino's unique style would work with some material. His biggest movies are all very similar. Stepping into something different may be asking for a mediocre film.
Kilgore's Avatar Kilgore 09:47 AM 01-13-2014
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QT's spaghetti Western?

Kinda wish he would do a different genre....
Maybe something like a spy thriller?

They should have got QT to do Starsky and Hutch.
Tack's Avatar Tack 09:58 AM 01-13-2014
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Amazing!

I know, I'm as amazed as anyone. I thought it was going to be a no brainer that I'd love it. As I was watching, a thought kept growing in my head that eventually pulled me out of it. " not funny Blazing Saddles". The more I tried to shoo the thought the more I thought about it. I don't know if anything like that ever happens to you guys or maybe it's just me. It's not necessarily true, but, there it is.


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Despite my notorious cheapness, I preordered the Django BD. It is one of several Tarantino films that I happily watch over and over again. 10 Stars out of 10, but what do I know? smile.gif

I'd say you know quite a bit. I always enjoy your take on movies. smile.gif
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