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I have an HDTV and whenever I try to watch 2001: a Space Odyssey, I get letterboxing on all four sides. Why doesn't the TV automatically scale this picture to fill the screen? What are my options? Thanks.
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The Blu-ray of 2001 plays perfectly on my HDTV. Bars on the top and bottom, no bars on the left or right.

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It should only have black bars on the top and bottom, since 2001 is presented in the 70mm aspect ratio of 2.2:1. Make sure the aspect ratio/scaling settings on your TV/player are set correctly.
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I have an HDTV and whenever I try to watch 2001: a Space Odyssey, I get letterboxing on all four sides. Why doesn't the TV automatically scale this picture to fill the screen? What are my options? Thanks.

How are you watching it? DVD? Blu-Ray? Cable?

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Regular DVD. I'm playing it on a PS2 and my TV settings (Samsung DLP 43") don't seem to have any other settings than the ones that I am using.
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IIRC, the first DVD release of 2001 was a non-anamorphic transfer, which would account for your issue. Who released the DVD you have and is there a date on it?

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Only the MGM release was non-anamorphic. If you have the copy below, that's the problem. It's time to trade up!

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Regular DVD.

If you have a BD player, it's 100% worth it to upgrade to the Blu Ray.

The new 2001 transfer is incredible, a huge upgrade over the DVD versions.
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Thanks. 2010 does the same thing. Shouldn't this issue have been resolved with this sequel? It's also a regular DVD. There is a Playstation setting that stretches the image horizontally but adds nothing to the height.
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The 2010 DVD suffers from the same issue, both titles are not enhanced for widescreen TV's, so you will get the window boxing unless your set or player has a zoom function. Later releases of 2001 are enhanced and it displays properly. I don't think 2010 ever had a rerelease on DVD.

If you like either or both films, the Blu-ray releases are substantial improvements and are readily available for 10 bucks or less.

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Thanks. 2010 does the same thing. Shouldn't this issue have been resolved with this sequel? It's also a regular DVD. There is a Playstation setting that stretches the image horizontally but adds nothing to the height.

Here's an old essay on the difference between 4:3 letterboxed and anamorphic DVDs: http://www.avsforum.com/t/623845/faq-frequently-asked-questions-about-dvd-players/60#post_13685744

The distinction goes away with Blu-ray but it is something you have to be aware of with DVD.

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Thanks. 2010 does the same thing. Shouldn't this issue have been resolved with this sequel? It's also a regular DVD. There is a Playstation setting that stretches the image horizontally but adds nothing to the height.
Why are you posting about DVD problems in the Blu-ray Software area? redface.gif
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Dude, move up to Blu-ray and experience the movie like it should be seen.biggrin.gif

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Moved - disc is a DVD.

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Someone who joined here in 2004 still watching non-anamorphic DVDs (let alone regular DVDs)?

Whoa...mom...is that you?

I guess you don't check in here that often. There's been a few advances in home playback over the years eek.gif
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Someone who joined here in 2004 still watching non-anamorphic DVDs (let alone regular DVDs)?

Cute, but many, many films have not been issued on anamorphic DVD, let alone Blu-Ray.
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Cute, but many, many films have not been issued on anamorphic DVD, let alone Blu-Ray.

Neither 2001 nor 2010 fall into that category. Both are readily available on Blu-ray for less than $10 each.

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Thanks. 2010 does the same thing. Shouldn't this issue have been resolved with this sequel?

Both 2001 and 2010 were released theatrically and on home video well before the advent of DVD in 1997, so when the first run of DVDs were released, they didn't get anamorphic transfers. At that time not very many people had widescreen TVs. It was resolved later when anamorphics took over, but for those who were unfortunate to get a DVD from the early bronze age found they didn't look too good on HDTVs.

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