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post #61 of 84 Old 08-21-2012, 08:24 AM
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I don't mean any disrespect by this. Does anyone know if a brain tomber can make people think weird things, like go jump off a bridge kind of weird? The article says he jumps without hesitation. Makes me think his brain just took over any emotion or logic.

Sad news. Suicide is a terrible thing.
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Does anyone know if a brain tomber can make people think weird things, like go jump off a bridge kind of weird?

It could if it's affecting the right part, but without knowing where the tumor was and what his behavior was leading up to his jumping, it's impossible to say whether it was directly responsible or whether the stress of having a tumor (anywhere) added to his burden, or whether it was something else entirely.

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It was no secret TS came out 2nd best when compared to Ridley.
Tony Scott's Feature Films
The Hunger (1983)
Top Gun (1986)
Beverly Hills Cop II (1987)
Revenge (1990)
Days of Thunder (1990)
The Last Boy Scout (1991)
True Romance (1993)
Crimson Tide (1995)
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Spy Game (2001)
Man on Fire (2004)
Domino (2005)
Déjà Vu (2006)
The Taking of Pelham 123 (2009)
Unstoppable (2010)
Yeah, when I was feeling ungenerous I would sometimes refer to Tony Scott as the untalented brother. But that was wrong and I knew it at the time. Tony Scott's body of work, while eclipsed by his brother Ridley's, was nonetheless impressive. I loved Top Gun and Crimson Tide and thought that Spy Game was great fun. More recently, Unstoppable has become one of my guilty pleasures. In another life, I learned a lot about railroading, so immediately fell in love with the film. The lossless audio track on the Unstoppable BD is demonstration quality. Tony Scott may not have been as great a director as his brother, but he was far better than most.
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It was no secret TS came out 2nd best when compared to Ridley.

Tony Scott may not have had a movie as great as Alien or Blade Runner in him, but he also never made anything as godawful terrible as A Good Year, Robin Hood or (bleccccch!) Prometheus.

Tony may not have aimed as high, but he was a lot more consistent at what he did. Even the weakest of his films is enjoyable popcorn fare. Ridley Scott's track record is far bumpier. Really, Ridley only has the two great movies and a whole lot of crap.

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Not going to turn this into a RS thread, but that's as unfair as saying Tony didn't have a solid movie under his belt. But yes, Ridley was more... inconsistent. But, that easily could have been because he had more pull to try different things.
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Personally, I'd rather see someone try for lofty heights and fail than just churn out the same old thing.


I like some of Tony Scott's films (Top Gun came out when I was a kid, so of course that was like the greatest most awesome movie/story/whatever in the history of everything in the universe at the time, and I still like it for what it is today.) But they do have a... consistency, if you will, about them. He was one of the defining guys of the mid-80s through 90s blockbuster era, right up there with Simpson and Bruckheimer, Shane Black, and Joel Silver.

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Tony Scott may not have had a movie as great as Alien or Blade Runner in him, but he also never made anything as godawful terrible as A Good Year, Robin Hood or (bleccccch!) Prometheus.
Tony may not have aimed as high, but he was a lot more consistent at what he did. Even the weakest of his films is enjoyable popcorn fare. Ridley Scott's track record is far bumpier. Really, Ridley only has the two great movies and a whole lot of crap.
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It could if it's affecting the right part, but without knowing where the tumor was and what his behavior was leading up to his jumping, it's impossible to say whether it was directly responsible or whether the stress of having a tumor (anywhere) added to his burden, or whether it was something else entirely.

Apparently, there was no tumor .. just the rumor of one ..

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/showbiz/tony-scott-probe/?iref=obinsite

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Well, there was a reason I posted "something else entirely. " wink.gif

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My condolences to the man and his family and all, but aren't we going a little overboard with the "great director" stuff? Imo, his movies represent all that's wrong with Hollywood movies today. Yeah, I'll be that guy.


I agree with you, however it's not something that needs to be said, especially right now. Best to be sensible about it.
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My condolences to the man and his family and all, but aren't we going a little overboard with the "great director" stuff? Imo, his movies represent all that's wrong with Hollywood movies today. Yeah, I'll be that guy.


I agree with you, however it's not something that needs to be said, especially right now. Best to be sensible about it.

I resisted earlier, but may as well include RHarkness with this admonition about making this a review thread, as he also apparently feels it's a good time to vent his puerile (maybe just penile) "critical" opinion as well...

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bollocks I say.

Everything wrong with Hollywood can be widdled down to Bay and Paul WS Anderson.

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bollocks I say.
Everything wrong with Hollywood can be widdled down to Bay and Paul WS Anderson.
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Just found an interesting piece, entitled Great Scott, which considers Tony Scott's work here. I thought the most interesting part about it though was a subhead, apparently written by an editor:
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The legacy of a minor Hollywood legend
The subhead may be too harsh but it resonated with me.
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My condolences to the man and his family and all, but aren't we going a little overboard with the "great director" stuff? Imo, his movies represent all that's wrong with Hollywood movies today.
Nothing wrong with Hollywood. They just keep making the same types of moves that people keep throwing money out to see. Get millions of Simple Jacks to rally together and demand better, they might get it. Good luck with changing our current society's standards, though.

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Nothing wrong with Hollywood. They just keep making the same types of moves that people keep throwing money out to see. Get millions of Simple Jacks to rally together and demand better, they might get it. Good luck with changing our current society's standards, though.
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Tony Scott may not have had a movie as great as Alien or Blade Runner in him, but he also never made anything as godawful terrible as A Good Year, Robin Hood or (bleccccch!) Prometheus.
Tony may not have aimed as high, but he was a lot more consistent at what he did. Even the weakest of his films is enjoyable popcorn fare. Ridley Scott's track record is far bumpier. Really, Ridley only has the two great movies and a whole lot of crap.


just can't set aside your distaste for prometheus.


feel sorry for the family. suicides are so hard to accept.

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just can't set aside your distaste for prometheus.
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About all this "too soon" stuff- as I said I offer the mans family condolences, but he's also a public figure. Nobody would be expected to hold back with thier critical opinion of anyone else when they passed in a similar situation. And my critical opinion of the guy is that he's the original M. Bay.

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About all this "too soon" stuff- as I said I offer the mans family condolences, but he's also a public figure. Nobody would be expected to hold back with thier critical opinion of anyone else when they passed in a similar situation. And my critical opinion of the guy is that he's the original M. Bay.


Really? I would think most would hold back on "critical opinion" out of respect for their passing and the fact that speaking ill serves no real purpose. And you really see no difference between him and Michael Bay? Really?.

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Really? I would think most would hold back on "critical opinion" out of respect for their passing and the fact that speaking ill serves no real purpose. And you really see no difference between him and Michael Bay? Really?.

Do I see a difference? Yeah, Tony has a brother capable of making the occasional great movie, while Bay doesn't.

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For those still interested, the autopsy report on Tony Scott was just released, and it doesn't look good:

http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=769531

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For those still interested, the autopsy report on Tony Scott was just released, and it doesn't look good:
http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=769531


What do you mean "it doesn't look good"?

 

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An autopsy report on the death of "Top Gun" director Tony Scott lists his death as a suicide and says the cause was multiple blunt force injuries suffered from jumping off a bridge into Los Angeles Harbor.


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Yeah, the guy died jumping off a bridge....I thought we knew that already?

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