According to recent rumors, Warner Brothers has every intention on rebooting the Batman franchise, though it plans on introducing him as a part of their planned Justice League film before launching into a new film series:
Do you think this is a good approach to take? I feel like there's no way to top the Nolan trilogy's origin story, so there's no point in even trying. Warner's best bet is to take off from the middle and get things rolling from there.
Chris Nolan re-created the super-hero genre and destroyed it at the same time for DC comics with his ability to humanize Batman. The Avengers and other Marvel comic's movies will always work because they are humor based action characters, but a lot more thought and creative writing has to go in to creating a DC comic film for it to work; hence why Chris Nolan's Batman is the only quality DC film since the original Tim Burton film (20 years of movies/30 years since the last good superman). Either let it go altogether or give Nolan a blank check to resurrect Batman and whoever else he wants to create.
BTW, I know there was a (debunked?) rumor that Ben Affleck might be directing the JL film, but after seeing The Incredibles and the latest Mission: Impossible film, I'd love to see Brad Bird helm the film.
I am the farthest thing from a pessimist but I'm really struggling with a successful JL movie. There are so many superhero movies out now and already established, adding more I think would just be overload. After Batman (Dark Knight) and Man of Steel, I just don't think you can get enough of a successful draw for the other characters before burnout. Simply put, Marvel beat DC to it. They caught the front of development of characters, rode the wave they created (so to speak) and capitalized with The Avengers. Either way DC does it will be (or appear so) an act of desperation to get in the game or a copy cat structure again possibly leading to overload. The real linchpin is Superman. Assuming there is serious development going on here, will Man of Steel fit the JL concept by way of story and imagery? If not, then there will be another reboot of sorts with that either standalone or within the JL movie and you'd have to do the same with Batman. I would really like to see it work but it's difficult for me to see it happening (successfully) in the near future. Having said that, on the assumption that Man of Steel is in line with the JL concept, hinting at the formation of JL at the end of it, perhaps even seeing characters in a classic JL pose would possibly satisfy the idea. Or even drop hints throughout the movie of the other characters maybe as their alias but not full character development might work. But anything beyond that again I fear would be overload.
You nailed it. They are so behind Marvel and won't be able to catch up. Nolan's Batman is phenominal. It can't be topped. Don't mess with it!
I completely agree.
I think it's the best way to reboot the Batman franchise: start with a Justice League film and break out individual character movies from there. Instead of copying Marvel's grand scheme for the Avengers, show some originality and take the opposite path. That would also keep the new Batman film from being released too soon after Dark Knight Rises, using the Justice League movie as a buffer.
I am the farthest thing from a pessimist but I'm really struggling with a successful JL movie. There are so many superhero movies out now and already established, adding more I think would just be overload. After Batman (Dark Knight) and Man of Steel, I just don't think you can get enough of a successful draw for the other characters before burnout.
Only girly-men push The Red Button.
True dat in return. But I wasn't necessarily speaking to the "death" of it all it's just that, again, there is so much already out there (and most of it good!) that I think for DC to catch up they run the risk of creating too much of the same thing (more or less) or pushing out a crappy product, which would be even worse. So for now, lay low and take more of a conservative approach and say "hey, we missed this boat, let's wait 10 years then give it a go."
However, because I'm such a brilliant guy (hold down the laughter!), I just had the idea, it might be interesting to do an "underground" concept. Push some story rich, moderately high quality stuff out online, perhaps in 20-30 minute serial format, to keep the idea live and develop a following with buzz. Build your character development this way and use that to lead up to a full scale JL movie. Kind of like, these events and adventures have been going on all along with each superhero, but inconspicuously connected to a larger story that leads up to a JL movie at some later date. This way, you could generate the concept of the DC universe, give it scale and depth via a strong storyline so nothing has to be recreated or reimaged at full scale production. Just a thought.
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I don't think they need Dick Grayson when they've already got a character in the Nolan-verse that can become Nightwing: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
he wont become nightwing; that whole scene was a "passing the torch" moment for him to become batman.
No, we don't need another Batman or Superman reboot. People are familiar enough with them. Green Arrow is getting his own series on CW right now so that will introduce him to the wider audience while also maybe stopping him from being in a JL movie. The latest tv treatments of Wonder Woman and Aquaman failed. The 90's Flash series failed because it was too slow to develop the supervillains and the Flash mythos (by the time they did the show had lost too many viewers and the commercials for the supervillain episodes only made the episodes look too camp). The Green Lantern movie failed because they tried to pack way too much in - too many characters, too many villains, too many Green Lanterns, etc.
Seriously, DC/WB needs to think hard about what to do with the JL franchise before rushing something out for the sake of "competition".
Not the case. Ratings were actually pretty respectable for THE FLASH...especially considering it was up against THE SIMPSONS. It was cancelled due to budgetary reasons. (Over one million dollars per episode, reportedly. A lot of money for an early 90s TV show.)