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Movie was bad. It Sucked. Best as a renter if you see it at all. Made no sense plot wise, wish i had my money back it was so bad.
Really when is the last time anyone seen me not like a movie?
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Movie was bad. It Sucked. Best as a renter if you see it at all. Made no sense plot wise, wish i had my money back it was so bad.

yep - and from what I've read so far about the film, it even looks like Battlefield Earth part 2...in other words a not-so-subtle scientology ad... so no thanks, I think I won't bother even as a rental... What was Will Smith thinking since it's apparently a "passion project" of his? First of all if you love a project so much you don't put Shyamalan behind the wheel tongue.gif
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Can't say the movie was good, but it's a rental at best...unless you collect SciFi movies for your personal library, like moi, you might even pass up the Bluray purchase. It reminds me of the kind of movie you watch on broadcast tv during Sunday afternoons--you know, when there's no football or anything else to watch.
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As for the criticism of Will Smith's performance...I think that's entirely on the character. A man without fear would lose much of his emotional range--how do you play a man that loves his family but doesn't fear for them, or anything else?...actually, to me that was the strangest and most absurd plot point--to make "ghosts" without fear, but yet they had to respect danger?...hmmm, they would've made good jedi. Don't get me wrong, they tried to make it work, but I couldn't completely suspend my disbelief. I don't know, maybe if they'd gone into more detail about what exactly triggers the pheromones...ie a certain type of fear--maybe it would've worked for me. Then again, why anyone (alien or otherwise) would engineer human hunters, that only tracked humans by fear pheromones, seemed rather ridiculous too. Not to mention that this film was mostly advertised as being about "EARTH" and how dangerous it is for humans--thousands of years after leaving--only to have the main terror be an alien--but hey, I've seen worse.

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I'll be renting.

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I'll be renting.
The WSJ's review started like this: Is "After Earth" the worst movie ever made? Maybe not; there's always "Battlefield Earth" to remind us how low the bar can go
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The WSJ's review started like this: Is "After Earth" the worst movie ever made? Maybe not; there's always "Battlefield Earth" to remind us how low the bar can go
I find it interesting the 2 "worst movies ever made" (according to WSJ and others) were done by Scientologists.
Coincidence?
Or a deliberate attack upon a reviled religion?

Personally, I'm thinking the latter....wink.gif

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I find it interesting the 2 "worst movies ever made" (according to WSJ and others) were done by Scientologists.
Coincidence?
Or a deliberate attack upon a reviled religion?

Personally, I'm thinking the latter....wink.gif
Could it be that Scientology is a bad basis for making movies? Some things that are reviled should be. smile.gif
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I find it interesting the 2 "worst movies ever made" (according to WSJ and others) were done by Scientologists.
Coincidence?
Or a deliberate attack upon a reviled religion?

Personally, I'm thinking the latter....wink.gif
Yeah I was thinking the same thing
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Could it be that Scientology is a bad basis for making movies? Some things that are reviled should be. smile.gif
Well, maybe so...I dunno.

However, Scientology reads as Sci-fi.




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I mean no disrespect either, my religion only had flock or boss. I'd love some levels besides halfass, no count, and bless his heart.
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I mean no disrespect either, my religion only had flock or boss. I'd love some levels besides halfass, no count, and bless his heart.

This is either complete gibberish or some kind of code or a new language of which I am unfamiliar.
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Look at the quotes. Is it my imagination or is everyone at Sony in denial?

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/does-earth-end-reign-mr-box-office-214045325.html

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Well, maybe so...I dunno.

However, Scientology reads as Sci-fi.




IF I HAVE INSULTED ANY SCIENTOLOGISTS OUT THERE, I APOLOGIZE.....IT WASN'T MY INTENT.
Just a reminder Cruise and Travolta are long time Scientologist so I don't think they make bad movies that's got nothing to do with it. That's cool of you to say that Oink but for the rest of you get off your witch hunt wagon and find something else to hate.

As for Smith, he's getting dragged down only because he has to find his stupid brat kids a job in Hollywood. And I bet his controlling wife has a lot to do with it too. Btw the interviews I've seen that Jaden in this week on Ep daily, that kid is a major space cadet. Talkin all kinds of nonsense, check it out on you tube if you can find it
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Just a reminder Cruise and Travolta are long time Scientologist so I don't think they make bad movies that's got nothing to do with it. That's cool of you to say that Oink but for the rest of you get off your witch hunt wagon and find something else to hate.
I do think there is a lot of hate heaped on Scientologists that is totally unnecessary and silly at best.

The bottom line is ALL religions are nutty in one way or the other.
ALL are built around mythological stories of some sort.

Worrying about someone else's religious beliefs is a waste of what little time one has breathing oxygen on this planet.
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I do think there is a lot of hate heaped on Scientologists that is totally unnecessary and silly at best.

But Will Smith never got any backlash for Men in Black or any other of his movies. I like him. It seems that this particular one though, besides the stupid idea of having his son as the leading man, has a lot of subtext directly taken from scientology 101, and I don't like that either. That, to me, is the silly part. Tom Cruise, up until now (and I hope that continues) has never tried to sell this bullsh!t through his movies. We already have to endure more than enough religious crap and references in Hollywood...
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Btw the interviews I've seen that Jaden in this week on Ep daily, that kid is a major space cadet. Talkin all kinds of nonsense, check it out on you tube if you can find it

That sounds funny I'll check it out! biggrin.gif
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I do think there is a lot of hate heaped on Scientologists that is totally unnecessary and silly at best.

The bottom line is ALL religions are nutty in one way or the other.
ALL are built around mythological stories of some sort.

Worrying about someone else's religious beliefs is a waste of what little time one has breathing oxygen on this planet.

Well said duder; you get a little thumbs up thingie for that. wink.gif What's so profoundly sad is how many human beings, still and for the last couple thousand years at least, have worried about little else. frown.gif
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But Will Smith never got any backlash for Men in Black or any other of his movies. I like him.
Everybody DOES, and I think that is the secret.wink.gif

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It seems that this particular one though, besides the stupid idea of having his son as the leading man, has a lot of subtext directly taken from scientology 101, and I don't like that either.
I am no expert on Scientology, but I will definitely be looking for it when I watch the BD.

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Well said duder; you get a little thumbs up thingie for that. wink.gif What's so profoundly sad is how many human beings, still and for the last couple thousand years at least, have worried about little else. frown.gif
The irony of it all is the central theme running thru the major organized religions is non-violence, spiritual peace, love.
Unfortunately, "evil-doers" turn it on its head and use it for power and control of the masses.rolleyes.gif

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Unfortunately, "evil-doers" turn it on its head and use it for power and control of the masses.rolleyes.gif

"evil-doers"? ...I think the exact word is "the Church" wink.gif



re: scientology undertones in After Efter Earth... I just came across this article a few days ago over at THR... (I've just pasted the first few paragraphs, the most interesting parts are in the link)
A Former Scientologist Reviews 'After Earth'

Ex-church member Marc Headley says Will Smith's latest contains language, concepts and imagery plucked directly from the L. Ron Hubbard playbook.

I grew up in Scientology and worked at their international Sea Organization headquarters for 15 years. In 2005, I managed a desperate escape, which only succeeded thanks to the local county authorities. I wrote about my experiences in my best-selling book, Blown For Good: Behind the Iron Curtain of Scientology.

Who better, then, to investigate the whole Scientology debate surrounding After Earth, the new sci-fi movie from M. Night Shyamalan starring Will and Jaden Smith, than a former Scientologist -- one who's received counseling from Tom Cruise himself? I am in no way “glib” on the subject; I’ve done the research.

I saw the movie After Earth and took notes on any parallels or “coincidental” similarities to Scientology teachings. While most of the movie involves following Jaden Smith’s character as he faces off against apes, a large, angry bird and a leech, (none of which have much to do with Scientology -- besides maybe the leech), most of the Scientology influences play out in the film’s dialogue."


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/a-scientologist-reviews-earth-guest-561310
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After Earth: The Spoiler FAQ

Okay. What’s the story?

An emotionally dysfunctional father and his overemotional nincompoop of a son crash-land on Earth, which has been quarantined for 1,000 years after we humans messed it up and left. Dad breaks both his legs, so son has to walk 100 km to the other half of the spaceship’s wreckage to find a beacon. This is bad because, as Will Smith’s dad says, everything on Earth has evolved to kill humans.

What? Evolved to kill humans? In 1,000 years?

Yes.


That’s not how evolution works.

I know.

Funny read but points out stuff I missed.
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Evolved to kill humans? In 1,000 years?
During which time humans weren't even there (quarantine).

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Could it be that Scientology is a bad basis for making movies? Some things that are reviled should be. smile.gif

It does make for a heck of a South Park episode however.
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Great, now you guys ruined the movie for me.



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yep - and from what I've read so far about the film, it even looks like Battlefield Earth part 2...in other words a not-so-subtle scientology ad... so no thanks, I think I won't bother even as a rental... What was Will Smith thinking since it's apparently a "passion project" of his? First of all if you love a project so much you don't put Shyamalan behind the wheel tongue.gif

I thinks this is one time where you can't blame Shyamalan besides for picking up the script in the first place.

One giant ad for the Scientology cult and fostering the Smith brand? No thanks.
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I thinks this is one time where you can't blame Shyamalan besides for picking up the script in the first place.

Probably, but he's still the one who directed it. Smith wanted him apparently (another big modern mystery wink.gif) - maybe he thought enough of those action-packed blockbusters, let's go dull this time!
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Great, now you guys ruined the movie for me.

Correction: M. Night Shyamalan and Will Smith ruined the movie for everybody. smile.gif

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So, ummm, did no one at the studio ever point out to either Smith or Shyamalan that making a $130 million sci-fi adventure movie in which the lead character is named "Kitty Rage" is as close to a guaranteed recipe for failure as you can possibly get? Or did they both have their heads so far up their asses that they refused to listen to anybody else?

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It does make for a heck of a South Park episode however.

I'm getting the impression that a total spoil on every possible moment in this film might actually
improve your chances of enjoying it. Kinda like being told everything there is to know about a cow patty
before your first visit to a field where cows do the business. Instead of stepping in one and being shocked,
you recognize it right away and the experience is more fascinating and enjoyable. You marvel the size
of the patty and learn something in the process.
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"evil-doers"? ...I think the exact word is "the Church" wink.gif
Same thing...

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I'm getting the impression that a total spoil on every possible moment in this film might actually
improve your chances of enjoying it. Kinda like being told everything there is to know about a cow patty
before your first visit to a field where cows do the business. Instead of stepping in one and being shocked,
you recognize it right away and the experience is more fascinating and enjoyable. You marvel the size
of the patty and learn something in the process.
Eric....having you been drinking before 5PM again?biggrin.gif

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