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Fwiw, I don't think the tempering of high expectations would have helped anybody enjoy this movie. I went in w/o any knowledge of the Blomkamp or D9 connection.
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I only knew that it may be on par with Oblivion since I read some had made comparisons with it, as far as which would be the bigger blockbuster sci-fi hit of the season.
Uh... I find those two statements in conflict with each other in terms of the expectation bias. confused.gif

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I also wanted to comment that, while I enjoyed D9 and found it thought inspiring, I wonder if possibly native South Africans may have found it simplistic and amateurish in theme as American may find Elysium? I have no idea to that question, but maybe perspective counts for a lot in both of these cases? For all we know, maybe both movies were utter $h1t, when view by their respective native audiences, or maybe thought provoking pieces when an audience views another world that doesn't hit so close to home?
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By "high expectations", I refer to some people hoping for a D9-caliber movie.

Comparison with Oblivion, maybe I shouldn't have use the term blockbuster. Were they blockbusters? I really don't know. They were competing entries in the sci-fi genre, though. That is all I was trying to convey.

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Sometimes mods other than Larry come in here.wink.gif
Good point (although I think you may be giving the movie too much credit).
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What should have been the follow up to D9 was its sequel, which was perfectly set up in the final scene.frown.gif

All I was trying to say is that I went in w/o high expectations, and still observed a puke-in-the-mouth sensation. wink.gif

I would completely agree...if you went in with high or low expectations, you would still be disappointed...complete waste of a high-production value project and new sci-fi world, just to prop up a very stale and simplistic ideological message.

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I would completely agree...if you went in with high or low expectations, you would still be disappointed

I saw the movie after reading this thread, which was mostly negative. A lot of times low expectations can help but not here. I think the big problem with Elysium for me is the potential they left on the table. Normally a movie that's just mediocre doesn't bug me too much, but this could have really been something. I think that's the bigger crime. Similar to Prometheus.
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BTW, there is a drink with vodka, Bailey's® Irish cream and Horchata called a White Mexican.
Although for some reason I doubt it, maybe it would make this movie go down better?

I can find no reason not to give that a shot a few times.
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Well, I watched this on pay-per-view (actually for free) and the PQ and AQ weren't bad.
The acting wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Jodie Foster's character was barely developed. I didn't mind her accent. I thought it denoted the soulless perfection of superficial attributes that the 1 percenters seemed to have.

I am tired of these kinds of movies. Will we ever see a future that is neither a simple-minded utopia nor a dog-eat-dog dystopian tragedy. Blade Runner seemed to set the mark for how we see our eventuality.

I can't comment on my main observation without a spoiler alert. It just seems like our culture has a very narrow view of what constitutes the solution to a dilemma. I think another approach might allow for more real-life possibilities. Life's offerings might be seen as more limitless, and humanity might be seen more as powerful individuals, rather than a mindless mass waiting for one person to act on their behalf.

These movies begin to seem the same to me. And the gorefests don't shock, they just numb. It's just so much hamburger.

But then, I dug Pacific Rim.
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Is that really what that was? I thought it was some hybrid leftover of several alien languages that she was fluent in. Kind of like when you move to another part of the country then you start sounding like they do. Not that we saw any aliens... I was just trying to grasp why she sounded like that.

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which is kind of ironic considering Jodie Foster is 100% fluent in french, with no trace of american accent whatsoever. She's been known for dubbing herself for the french market for decades. Knowing that, I found it even more difficult to "buy" her character in Elysium, as I'm sure she knows how to speak english with a french accent. But that's not what we heard in the film.


interesting

from what I could discern, I thought she was communicating in some form of sign language

dont think this particular accent will chart well for ms. foster

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simplistic ideological message.
I don't mind a "simplistic ideological message" if it is done WELL.
That isn't the case with this movie.

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I thought it denoted the soulless perfection of superficial attributes that the 1 percenters seemed to have.
Great sentence....cool.gif

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Perhaps you should check out Mike Judge's Idiocracy.
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Thanks Oink. I'll check it out!
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Those of you who were bothered by Foster's accent in this movie, what was she talking about when she said it in such accent?
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Those of you who were bothered by Foster's accent in this movie, what was she talking about when she said it in such accent?

"Paint me like one your French girls!" It was really out of place.
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I thought she said "You call this a wine list? You Americans are so unsophisticated."
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I thought she said "You call this a wine list? You Americans are so unsophisticated."
She said, "I have no idea what I'm doing in this movie because I serve no purpose whatsoever".
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She said, "I have no idea what I'm doing in this movie because I serve no purpose whatsoever".

Like I said, axe her, increase Kruger, profit.
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Like I said, axe her, increase Kruger, profit.

You mean for the sequel - Elysium 2: Orbital Boogaloo?
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You mean for the sequel - Elysium 2: Orbital Boogaloo?

Or the George Lucas Special Edition, Elysium: Chapter 3, The Beginning But Not Really
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Or Elysium 2 : Gravita-tas, wherein Sandra Bullock crash lands on Elysium into a studio during a zany " The French Mistake" dance routine, directed by Jodie Fosters twin sister. Of course she still finds a way to get into her underwear and look great during all the side splitting antics!

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Like I said, axe her, increase Kruger, profit.
Still love the fact that Kruger used a sword in the future. That's so awesome. Someone could make a movie just based on that. Make it where there's a bunch of guys running around with swords, fighting each other until one of them gets their head chopped off. Then they move on to the next guy. And in the end there can be only one. And that guy gets a prize or something...like in Cracker Jacks. I need to right this stuff down and sell it. It's about high time Hollywood had an original idea.
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Still love the fact that Kruger used a sword in the future. That's so awesome. Someone could make a movie just based on that. Make it where there's a bunch of guys running around with swords, fighting each other until one of them gets their head chopped off. Then they move on to the next guy. And in the end there can be only one. And that guy gets a prize or something...like in Cracker Jacks. I need to right this stuff down and sell it. It's about high time Hollywood had an original idea.

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At least the fight scenes are better choreographed than Dark Knight series.
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So, you guys don't have much problem with the content of Delacourt's dialogue but do with her accent?
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I can't even wrap my head around the amount of awesome contained in those trailers.

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I can't even wrap my head around the amount of awesome contained in those trailers.

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DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT?

I don't know why, but that sentence in full CAPS (yelling) just kills me every time I read it. smile.gif
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Watched this last night. It was ok. A decent rental. A one and done.

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Seriously smile.gif I just get this picture in my head of someone calmly walking up to someone sitting on a park bench "DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT" What the!
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Seriously smile.gif I just get this picture in my head of someone calmly walking up to someone sitting on a park bench "DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT" What the!

The only thing I can think of that might be more chilling is a wild eyed guy walking up to you in the park and saying, "Give to mental health or I will kill you" smile.gif
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