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*sigh* Okay, one more time: Once Rockefeller had eliminated any institutional competition by crushing any upstart electric car companies (there were once hundreds of them) and destroying any hope of a comprehensive national passenger rail system, he had effectively hooked the public on his product: oil. To be fair, he had help from Firestone Tires because cars run on rubber while railroads run on steel. Once that competition had been eliminated, his work was done. Didn't really matter what happened after that; America was forevermore dependent on cars and the oil that runs them.

That's why monopolies are bad, and it had nothing to do with government. If regulators had acted sooner to reign in Rockefeller and Firestone, we might be able to get quickly and safely from New York to San Francisco on a bullet train today, and our cities wouldn't be choked by smog and traffic jams. Who knows? But considering all the unintended consequences of a monopoly-created dependence on finding increasingly difficult to extract pools of dead dinosaurs to run our vehicles, it's a shame they weren't stopped sooner.
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I don't know quite how to take that, other than I'm so old I remember Dick Tracy. tongue.gif

One thing I wish had come to pass regarding Dick Tracy was the magnetic propulsion systems that were theorized and depicted on the air/space craft. Dick Tracy got more sci-fi than detective, more E.R. Burroughs than Sam Spade toward the end of its run.
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Once Rockefeller had eliminated any institutional competition by crushing any upstart electric car companies (there were once hundreds of them) and destroying any hope of a comprehensive national passenger rail system, he had effectively hooked the public on his product: oil. To be fair, he had help from Firestone Tires because cars run on rubber while railroads run on steel. Once that competition had been eliminated, his work was done. Didn't really matter what happened after that; America was forevermore dependent on cars and the oil that runs them.
So your complaint is not that Rockefeller had the most competitive oil company, but that he somehow coerced people into preferring the internal combustion engine to electric vehicles (electricity supplied by government dictated monopolies btw), and even had the “power” to destroy railroads? If only that damn oil hadn't been so cheap, we would have had a glorious era of passenger trains (running on what, exactly?). What you call “hooking”, I call consumer preference, and that seems to bother you.
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If it had acted sooner to reign in Rockefeller and Firestone, we might be able to get from New York to San Francisco on a bullet train today, and our cities wouldn't be choked by smog and traffic jams.
I think I see your true objection to Rockefeller. His efficient production methods made oil products cheaper, so cheap that they were attractive to the public. You don’t like that attractiveness. Cheap oil was “bad”. And why the fascination with continental trains as opposed to aircraft?
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This is hopeless. I give up. You win. Bye.

In exchange, I ask only one thing of you. Rent the documentary I referenced. I dare you. I double-dare you.

And that's just a start. Trust me - there's a whole world of history on this subject of which you are painfully unaware.
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I don't know quite how to take that, other than I'm so old I remember Dick Tracy. tongue.gif

One thing I wish had come to pass regarding Dick Tracy was the magnetic propulsion systems that were theorized and depicted on the air/space craft. Dick Tracy got more sci-fi than detective, more E.R. Burroughs than Sam Spade toward the end of its run.
It's not a personal attack just a broad generalization of our culture (I think those are cool these days). From another old guy.
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Patrick Thomas McNulty, an obnoxious blow-hard who has an opinion for every possible situation and topic there is. People find him insufferable: his co-workers, the regulars at the bar he frequents, (people on the Internet), his boss as well. McNulty submits a grocery list of suggestions to really turn Cooper Corporations around. His boss, Mr. Cooper, dislikes his ideas wanting to keep his business simple. Cooper discards McNulty, along with all of his ideas. Patrick returns to his local watering hole. The bartender Joe has a talk with McNulty, trying to help him realize that the problem may be McNulty's personality, and the fact that he is responsible for alienating everybody. However, he doesn't drive everyone away tonight. A bizarre foreign man by the name of Potts. Well, misery loves company. Patrick buys him a beer. Potts is touched and gives him a stopwatch for buying him a drink. Thinking of it as an odd gift, McNulty uses it and realizes that it actually stops time.

Too bad this hasn’t come to fruition because I would have put it to great use. Why, and for what reason? Because this thread, Cloud Atlas, and several others over the past few months have gone off topic and become insufferable because there is always one egotistical, ideological bore who will not let things go. THAT’S WHY!
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Too bad this hasn’t come to fruition because I would have put it to great use. Why, and for what reason? Because this thread, Cloud Atlas, and several others over the past few months have gone off topic and become insufferable because there is always one egotistical, ideological bore who will not let things go. THAT’S WHY!

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Call me crazy but today's political climate isn't ever going to get us Star Trek unless you count the nuclear destruction mankind has to endure to get another chance. Until then it's all Children of Men and Bitter Harvest with a dashes of 1984 and Farenheit 451.
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The Day the Earth Stood Still... The original version, another cry to mankind to 'get it together before it is too late.'
Gort could keep the peace, and there would be no need for weapons.
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I canceled discs on NF and only have streaming but doing a search on Utopia it looks like it might be available on disc because it was released on DVD and BD after the first season ended. However I only thought it was released for PAL but the BD might be all regions. Maybe someone with the disc subscription might be able to see NF does indeed have it on disc. And that might mean that shortly it may be available streaming. Tip: pay particular attention to the opening news story in the series.
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Sorry, hit send by accident. "Strange Days" and Total Recall" both have themes of viewing recorded experiences from someone else's brain, fed directly into your brain. I could see an Apple product in the near future. iExperience perhaps.

Ummm, anyone remember a little film called Brainstorm? Natalie Wood's last film. The role of pornography is a very important element in that movie.

And I would throw out there, Sleeper. It was amazing how badly history gets screwed up in the future.

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The Day the Earth Stood Still... The original version, another cry to mankind to 'get it together before it is too late.'
Gort could keep the peace, and there would be no need for weapons.

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