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A great loss to crime drama fans:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/08/20/author-elmore-leonard-dies-at-87/2676101/
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Elmore Leonard, best known for gritty crime novels including Get Shorty and shoot-'em up westerns including the short story 3:10 to Yuma, died Tuesday morning from complications from a stroke. He was 87.

Most recently, Leonard was in the news for his connection to the FX series Justified which stars Timothy Olyphant. It's about disgraced U.S. Marshal Raylan Givens, a character created by Leonard. He was also an executive producer.
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Justified is so damn good.
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Prolific author of crime thriller books and screenplays Elmore Leonard is dead at age 87:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/showbiz/elmore-leonard-obit/index.html

He has written too much to repeat, but here is his Bibliography page:

http://www.elmoreleonard.com/index.php?/filmandtv/archives/

Nobody did crime stories better, particularly if the setting was gritty Detroit. Elmore Leonard had no recurring characters or series, every work was an original setting. I will miss his stories. I am currently enjoying Justified, I hope they can continue without him, and without loss of quality.

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Justified is currently on AIV for Prime members, I think I'll check it out, didn't know it was Elmore's work. RIP.

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Prolific author of crime thriller books and screenplays Elmore Leonard is dead at age 87:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/showbiz/elmore-leonard-obit/index.html

He has written too much to repeat, but here is his Bibliography page:

http://www.elmoreleonard.com/index.php?/filmandtv/archives/

Nobody did crime stories better, particularly if the setting was gritty Detroit. Elmore Leonard had no recurring characters or series, every work was an original setting. I will miss his stories. I am currently enjoying Justified, I hope they can continue without him, and without loss of quality.

I think Olyphant gets it.
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The Elmore style: WRITERS ON WRITING; Easy on the Adverbs, Exclamation Points and Especially Hooptedoodle

Jackie Brown is easily my favorite Tarantino movie.

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I think Olyphant gets it.

The writers and producers have said their motto is "What would Elmore do?"

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The Elmore style: WRITERS ON WRITING; Easy on the Adverbs, Exclamation Points and Especially Hooptedoodle

Jackie Brown is easily my favorite Tarantino movie.

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Reportedly, Justified is one of the very few adaptations of his work that Leonard genuinely liked. He was extremely critical of most of the movies based on his novels.

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One of his last books was Raylan, after the series began. He made the character much closer to Timothy Olyphant's portrayal than in the earlier stories (of which there are only a couple, with Givens not a central character).

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Reportedly, Justified is one of the very few adaptations of his work that Leonard genuinely liked. He was extremely critical of most of the movies based on his novels.
I can't say I was a fan of those adaptations either.
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Reportedly, Justified is one of the very few adaptations of his work that Leonard genuinely liked.
Justified IS terrific....do you watch?

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I can't say I was a fan of those adaptations either.

I like Jackie Brown, Out of Sight, and both versions of 3:10 to Yuma. Beyond that, most of the movies based on Leonard's writing are pretty bad.

I'd even lump the inexplicably popular Get Shorty in the junk pile.
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I like Jackie Brown, Out of Sight, and both versions of 3:10 to Yuma. Beyond that, most of the movies based on Leonard's writing are pretty bad.

I'd even lump the inexplicably popular Get Shorty in the junk pile.
Forgot about JB.
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Justified IS terrific....do you watch?

I sure do. One of the top 3 or 4 shows on TV, IMO - certifiably awesome most weeks.
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I like Jackie Brown, Out of Sight, and both versions of 3:10 to Yuma. Beyond that, most of the movies based on Leonard's writing are pretty bad.

I'd even lump the inexplicably popular Get Shorty in the junk pile.
I'll happily rescue GS from the pile and replace it with C. Bale's 3:10.biggrin.gif

Another EL adaptation that slipped in under the radar recently is Killshot with Diane Lane and Mickey Rourke.
Although kind of a loose adaptation with some seemingly oddball casting, I thought it worked reasonable well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killshot_(film)

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Have you posted in the Justified thread?
I don't recall you doing so.....

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I sure do. One of the top 3 or 4 shows on TV, IMO - certifiably awesome most weeks.
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Watched 'The Tall T' on TCM the night before he passed away.
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Watched 'The Tall T' on TCM the night before he passed away.

One of the great Bud Boetticher classics. Did Boetticher do any other Leonard stories?
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I assume people here are taking pot-shots at the 3:10 to Yuma remake and not the original.



Criterion recently released the 1957 version on Blu-ray.

Disc Features:
  • New, restored 4K digital film transfer, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
  • Alternate 5.1 surround soundtrack, presented in DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition
  • New interviews with author Elmore Leonard and actor Glenn Ford’s son and biographer, Peter Ford
  • Plus: A booklet featuring a new essay by critic Kent Jones

http://www.criterion.com/films/27910-3-10-to-yuma

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Have you posted in the Justified thread?

I don't spend much time in the HDTV Programming forum.

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I assume people here are taking pot-shots at the 3:10 to Yuma remake and not the original.

I don't mind the remake. It's not a great movie, but it's perfectly serviceable as an action Western.

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Here is another by Jim Beaver, who was on Deadwood and Justified. Two great shoes, though it's only Justified with the link to EL:

http://www.rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/elmore-leonard-the-actors-and-dialogue-writers-friend
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Both of these links mention the 1967 movie Hombre starring Paul Newman and this is probably is a good time to revisit this film. Easy enough since it's streaming on Netflix and Amazon Prime. I'll be in full Western mode for the next few days since my copy of Criterion's 3:10 to Yuma arrived yesterday.

EDIT: Just watched Hombre. I'd forgotten what a great cast and what a character driven story this is. My only quibble is the score by David Rose, who labored much of his career in TV, is dated but so indicative of that period in film. I think the slow but steady pace of the film plays better in today's home theater.

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Here is another by Jim Beaver, who was on Deadwood and Justified. Two great shoes, though it's only Justified with the link to EL:

http://www.rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/elmore-leonard-the-actors-and-dialogue-writers-friend

Not to get off-topic on EL, but I hope everyone knows that Jim Beaver...



...is not only a familiar face on TV, but a prolific author and well-regarded film historian. He has provided an astonishing number of biographies and synopses to the IMDB. We were on the same discussion list one time and I was always tickled when he agreed with me about anything.

His own bio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Beaver

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I've always admired Beaver. He has a degree in theater from the University of Central Oklahoma in Edmond. I've liked his work since his Deadwood days.
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I've always admired Beaver. He has a degree in theater from the University of Central Oklahoma in Edmond. I've liked his work since his Deadwood days.
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For many years he played a big part on the CW's Supernatural series.
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He is pretty much gone from the show now, but still pops up on occasion.

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