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Another Ip Man installment just released over the weekend....has anyone seen this yet? Looks fantastic!
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Opening this week, but not in exactly wide release. Yes, it is worth seeing, especially if one holds Wong Kar Wai in high esteem. Shot unlike any other martial arts film. Begs to be seen with Dolby Atmos, if one can find it. This film should give a boost to Zhang Ziyi who has been in decline for a few years because of poor choices in scripts and directors. There are multiple versions of this movie and the American released version is different than what was shown at the Berlin Film Festival and the Chinese version BR. Needless to say, it is subtitled in English.
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Uhmm NO. This movie was horrible, it had zero plot and no central characters. The fight scenes were laughable and just made no sense at all. This Dir had no business doing something like this when he's really known for such slow melo romance dramas like In the mood for love and My Blueberry nights.

Tony Leung, one of my fav Asian actor was terribly miscast here as he spent most of screen time fighting with a ridiculous smirk. Zhang Zoo Zoo whatever her name is turned her worst unmemorable performance ever. I reckon all these brand name Asian actors just signed on because of the Dir Kar Wai Wong.

However, the PQ on the Dvd I have is just insanely pristine bordering on BD quality it's that nice. But you must know it's just the PQ and that the cinematography isn't what you think it is. There are many dizzying, strange-slow mo cam like effect every time there was a fight scene. Kinda like when a person is on drugs and has a hard time focusing. Yes, it's that weird.

If you wish paypal me $3 for shipping and I'll gladly mail it to you. I had to buy it, my curiosity and anticipation was too high from the Ip Man Donnie Yen movies which were awesome. I surmise even Oink who loves the cheesiest Asian movies will pass on this one too...I could be wrong though wink.gif
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How do you have a DVD of it?
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How do you have a DVD of it?

Looks like it's on amazon confused.gif

http://www.amazon.com/THE-Grandmaster-with-Tony-Leung/dp/B00C9G22R2/ref=tmm_dvd_title_0

cover art looks really weird...
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The theatrical Weinstein version is heavily cut and having now seen both versions I can tell you that Wong Kar Wai should be ashamed of himself. The man would have stood his ground and because the U.S. cut is butchered. Hey, the longer cut was only so-so, but now all of the heart and emotion is missing. There is nothing left.

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Loved IP Man, but the previews for this looked pretty bad to me. How do the two compare?

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Loved IP Man, but the previews for this looked pretty bad to me. How do the two compare?

Totally different. If you want to see a lot of action, The Grandmaster is not for you.
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The theatrical Weinstein version is heavily cut and having now seen both versions I can tell you that Wong Kar Wai should be ashamed of himself. The man would have stood his ground and because the U.S. cut is butchered. Hey, the longer cut was only so-so, but now all of the heart and emotion is missing. There is nothing left.

Director's cut BluRay is widely available on BD.

There is plenty left, but with a different emphasis.
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That Amazon posting is strange. It says 2012 but wasn't this a 2013 release even in China? I guess I'm not even close to being up to speed on this one. I'm a fan of the Ip Man movies and a martial arts films fan in general. Not that I put 100% stock on any review, it's interesting the comments here don't seem to go along with the RT fresh rating of 71%.
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That Amazon posting is strange. It says 2012 but wasn't this a 2013 release even in China? I guess I'm not even close to being up to speed on this one. I'm a fan of the Ip Man movies and a martial arts films fan in general. Not that I put 100% stock on any review, it's interesting the comments here don't seem to go along with the RT fresh rating of 71%.

The initial release date in China was Jan 8, 2013. It was available via BR in April 2013 out of China. As to the comments in this thread, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So for a couple of them, it is simply not to their liking. See it for yourself and then decide. This is a movie to see on a big screen.
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The initial release date in China was Jan 8, 2013. It was available via BR in April 2013 out of China. As to the comments in this thread, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So for a couple of them, it is simply not to their liking. See it for yourself and then decide. This is a movie to see on a big screen.

Of course, as is always the case, IMO anyway. When I first saw the trailer before Star Trek Into Darkness, it just looked so good and I felt it was time for a really good big screen martial arts movie.
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The theatrical Weinstein version is heavily cut and having now seen both versions I can tell you that Wong Kar Wai should be ashamed of himself. The man would have stood his ground and because the U.S. cut is butchered. Hey, the longer cut was only so-so, but now all of the heart and emotion is missing. There is nothing left.

Director's cut BluRay is widely available on BD.

I saw the original version and it took me two viewings to finish it. I actually fell asleep. Another thing that people should be aware of is that this movie is not really about Ip Man but others in the story; hence the title "The Grandmasters" I don't know why the "s" was removed on the BD cover. Ip Man's story is basically bookending the whole movie.
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I saw the original version and it took me two viewings to finish it. I actually fell asleep. Another thing that people should be aware of is that this movie is not really about Ip Man but others in the story; hence the title "The Grandmasters" I don't know why the "s" was removed on the BD cover. Ip Man's story is basically bookending the whole movie.

The recut Weinstein version re-enforces the Ip Man theme. The BR that I watched left it ambiguous and didn't have the "s" at the end of the title. At least that is what Wong Kar Wai seemed to be saying at The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in Beverly Hills where the movie screened prior to it release into theaters. And Zhang Ziyi was there and said a few words prior to the screening.
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Well, Wong Kar Wai's movies usually appeal to the exotic taste, such as 2046 and In the Mood for Love. He is not known for martial arts movies, unless you include Ashes of Time (confusing to me).

This one is about some fighting sequences and a platonic love relationship between the two main actors; everything else is just fillers.

So if you're looking for something like Donnie Yen's version, please skip it. However, if you enjoy 2046 or In the Mood for Love, then it might work for you.

As for me, I pass. I do agree the trailer looked good, in light of what the master said to his protege earlier in the movie.
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The only truly great Wong Kar Wai film, IMHO, is IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE. Everything else he has mad has either left cold (2046), confused the hell out of me (ASHES OF TIME) or been frustratingly uneven (The Grandmaster).

That being said, I have a real hatred for Harvey Weinstein's continued full frontal assault on Hong Kong action and martial arts pictures. he's never bought one he didn't defile in one way or another.

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The only truly great Wong Kar Wai film, IMHO, is IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE. Everything else he has mad has either left cold (2046), confused the hell out of me (ASHES OF TIME) or been frustratingly uneven (The Grandmaster).

His 40-minute segment in the omnibus film Eros is quite excellent and without question the best part of that movie.

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i did enjoy the music In The Mood For Love; think it was Nat King Cole.

Maggie was lavished custom-fitted with a gorgeous Chinese dress; it's amazing how she was transformed from the early days of TV soap opera star to a diva. I prefer her acting than Zhang, too one-dimensional.

For "mood" fighting, Hero with Zhang Yimou is my all time favorite. The scene in the rain with Donnie and Jet Li is classic.
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A review:

http://www.blu-ray.com/The-Grandmaster/157745/?show=preview
Wow, thank you for the link.

I came within an eyelash of ordering the original cut from YesAsia today.
Now, I am a little torn....

The YesAsia BD (Taiwan Version) is $37 + shipping.
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Wow, thank you for the link.

I came within an eyelash of ordering the original cut from YesAsia today.
Now, I am a little torn....

The YesAsia BD (Taiwan Version) is $37 + shipping.
Kinda steep, IMO.



The HK BD is $30 @ dddhouse.com. I believe it's the same as the one at Yesasia.
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The HK BD is $30 @ dddhouse.com. I believe it's the same as the one at Yesasia.
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Watched the Weinstein BD disk tonite.

1) The PQ is far from reference and has SD clips inserted here and there.
2) At times, there is a weird stuttering to the video (possibly a stylistic choice)...as though it is 22fps or something.
3) The audio mix is excellent, as is the cinematography.
4) A spell-binding movie of the highest order....there has never been anything like this before.
5) WKW should have been nominated for Best Director at the A.A.

A must watch for everyone who loves cinematic art.
This is a film unique to movie-making....must be seen to be believed.

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