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I was calibrating a Sharp panel yesterday and realized that agressive FI in many displays and projectors that are capable of reaching "Soap Opera Effect" level could come in handy watching Gravity when it makes it to BD. We might be able to create our own "HFR" effect and find it quite embellishing with Gravity. Food for thought. smile.gif
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I was calibrating a Sharp panel yesterday and realized that agressive FI in many displays and projectors that are capable of reaching "Soap Opera Effect" level could come in handy watching Gravity when it makes it to BD. We might be able to create our own "HFR" effect and find it quite embellishing with Gravity. Food for thought. smile.gif

But Gravity wasn't a High Frame Rate production. confused.gif

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But Gravity wasn't a High Frame Rate production. confused.gif

Go back to page 4, post 96. We discussed how some of simulate the HFR SOE effect.

EDIT: I know that sounds like I'm approaching heresey, but I don't think that the Camera Guild will yank my union card just for evaluating the effect. biggrin.gif
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I was calibrating a Sharp panel yesterday and realized that agressive FI in many displays and projectors that are capable of reaching "Soap Opera Effect" level could come in handy watching Gravity when it makes it to BD. We might be able to create our own "HFR" effect and find it quite embellishing with Gravity. Food for thought. smile.gif

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Go back to page 4, post 96. We discussed how some of simulate the HFR SOE effect.

EDIT: I know that sounds like I'm approaching heresey, but I don't think that the Camera Guild will yank my union card just for evaluating the effect. biggrin.gif

Yes, definitely. I don't currently own a video device with any FC/FI capability but the next thing on my list of upgrades is a nice, new 3D 1080p projector (to upgrade from my old 720p pj) and I'll be playing with those modes. Especially on movies like this one.

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Soap Opera Effect?? Why would you need it for Gravity, I saw no motion issues. confused.gif

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I don't mean to speak for Cam Man but maybe instead of SoE he just meant Frame Creation/Interpolation?


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I don't mean to speak for Cam Man but maybe instead of SoE he just meant Frame Creation/Interpolation?
I figured that's where it was going, but why is needed in the first place with the film?

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I figured that's where it was going, but why is needed in the first place with the film?
To make the motion more fluid (less judder), like in real life.

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I figured that's where it was going, but why is needed in the first place with the film?

Does aggressive FI not create a sense of SOE? I personally don't like SOE for virtually all narrative filmmaking because it loses the sense of "once upon a time." I found HFR for The Hobbit the same problem. It "said" this is "immediate/live/taped" as opposed to once upon at time. The fantasy land of Hobbits needs "once upon a time." I could not resolve the psychological conflict. The 2D version retained/restored the proper feel.

IMO, Gravity suffers visually from a lack of resolution. This is also psychological because I/we are conditioned to seeing events in space on video. They are generally newsworthy, near-live events. I understand that cost and schedule prevent 4K CG, therefore no 4K version. Although HFR would not impart any more resolution, it might impart/restore a sense of immediacy that would heighten the sense of reality, therefore the emotional response to the events. As the director of photography of such a movie as Gravity, I would certainly discuss this with the director during development, and probably shoot tests to take a look to see if it works with the story. Maybe they did and decided it didn't work for them. Maybe they didn't think of it.
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Although HFR would not impart any more resolution...
Not visual resolution, but certainly temporal resolution.

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To make the motion more fluid (less judder), like in real life.

TBH, I didn't find the HFR version of the Hobbit to be more life like. Headache inducing as I wasn't used to it though:D

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Not visual resolution, but certainly temporal resolution.

That's a better way to say it. smile.gif
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TBH, I didn't find the HFR version of the Hobbit to be more life like. Headache inducing as I wasn't used to it though:D

TBH, I didn't exactly give it a long shot. While at the theater for another movie, I picked up a pair of glasses, and stepped in to watch about ten minutes; probabaly not enough time to induce a headache. biggrin.gif
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While at the theater for another movie, I picked up a pair of glasses, and stepped in to watch about ten minutes

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