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post #61 of 81 Old 12-21-2015, 09:45 AM - Thread Starter
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I wish I had this quote during the great HD disk Format Wars we had on this site several years ago.
Don't know if you followed it at the time, but there was a lot of silliness spouted by the Grain Lovers regarding those early disk releases.
I won't bore you by recalling it all here, although I'm sure it probably would have been very entertaining for someone like yourself to follow.

I have yet to see Ep.7 (waiting for the theaters to clear out a bit first).
After mulling over whether I should see it in 2 or 3D, I decided on the former and stay within the tradition of Ep.4-6 original releasing format.
However, will be buying the inevitable 3D/2D BD release now that I have a display that can play 3D material superbly.


Thank you for the behind the scenes look into how Ep.7 was shot.
Hey Oink, my pleasure. I was here a lot back during the format launches. For the record, I'm for a faithful reproduction of the original work. Older stocks had more grain. I'm okay with that reality, but regard it merely the place in the technical evolution of stocks. I don't mind some grain manipulation for BD release as long as it is not detrimental in other ways. That's too tough a balance to achieve on many older titles.


I look forward to hearing your impressions upon seeing it. You too, Scott.
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Hey Oink, my pleasure. I was here a lot back during the format launches. For the record, I'm for a faithful reproduction of the original work. Older stocks had more grain. I'm okay with that reality, but regard it merely the place in the technical evolution of stocks. I don't mind some grain manipulation for BD release as long as it is not detrimental in other ways. That's too tough a balance to achieve on many older titles.
Speaking of de-graining, have you had a chance to take a look at the latest BD release of Cameron's Aliens?
As I understand it, a state-of-the-art process was used to "clean" the grain up.
IMO, the BD looks amazing free of nasty grain without losing any perceivable resolution.
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Speaking of de-graining, have you had a chance to take a look at the latest BD release of Cameron's Aliens?
As I understand it, a state-of-the-art process was used to "clean" the grain up.
IMO, the BD looks amazing free of nasty grain without losing any perceivable resolution.
It's in my collection, but I haven't taken a look. I just this morning sent a Christmas card to Bill Paxton. Maybe it's an omen that I should take a look to see the grain and his memorable performance.
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It's in my collection, but I haven't taken a look. I just this morning sent a Christmas card to Bill Paxton. Maybe it's an omen that I should take a look to see the grain and his memorable performance.
His Hudson was deliciously over-the-top and spawned quite a few internet memes.


Little known Hollywood fact: Bill Paxton is only actor to be killed by an Alien, a Predator, and a Terminator.
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Thanks, CM. I love reading this stuff. I'm starting to think I'm a nerd, though. Maybe I've just been in denial all these years...

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Thanks, CM. I love reading this stuff. I'm starting to think I'm a nerd, though. Maybe I've just been in denial all these years...
Hmmm, everywhere I go these days I keep hearing the word "denial...."
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Thanks, CM. I love reading this stuff. I'm starting to think I'm a nerd, though. Maybe I've just been in denial all these years...
Nah, you just enjoy the journey as much as the destination when it comes to movies. I wish more folks were like that. We might constitute a nerd herd.
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His Hudson was deliciously over-the-top and spawned quite a few internet memes.


Little known Hollywood fact: Bill Paxton is only actor to be killed by an Alien, a Predator, and a Terminator.
Well you could argue that Lance Henriksen experienced the same, even if Ripley pushed the off switch.

As for Aliens, I think it didn't got degrained or uprezzed as Cameron said. But just a very good 4K scan.
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As for Aliens, I think it didn't got degrained or uprezzed as Cameron said. But just a very good 4K scan.
I don't know (other than what I read).


It does look superb IMO.
Which is good, because I consider it to be the best movie ever made in the genre.
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I just this morning sent a Christmas card to Bill Paxton. Maybe it's an omen that I should take a look to see the grain and his memorable performance.
"Too much grain, man; game over!!"
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"Too much grain, man; game over!!"
Hahahaha!
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It may have been discussed here but I find shooting things with grain for a 70's effect, such as "The Living Dead" seems to drive AVC encodes crazy. It's an "effect" that might as well be skipped.
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Something's screwy here; pretty sure I made that post maybe only 4 months back, NOT almost 2 years ago..
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Something's screwy here; pretty sure I made that post maybe only 4 months back, NOT almost 2 years ago..
It happens.
You get older and time just...slips away.
I advise seeking immediate medical help....before it's too late.
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Hold your tongue, Jedi. ig:
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SW7 Cinematography Article

Hey guys, here's the magazine of my union (camera) with an article on SW7. Enjoy.


http://www.icgmagazine.com/web/far-and-away/
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Hey guys, here's the magazine of my union (camera) with an article on SW7. Enjoy.


http://www.icgmagazine.com/web/far-and-away/
Thanks, really interesting read.
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Hey guys, here's the magazine of my union (camera) with an article on SW7. Enjoy.


http://www.icgmagazine.com/web/far-and-away/

Thanks Your views on the production side of movie making are always more than welcome!


One of the pull quotes from the article for me was - - -
“[Neal’s] work is mind-blowingly brilliant, and it showcases skill sets that are so underused in modern filmmaking,” Mindel froths. “We took these creatures on location in the desert and they performed wonderfully. None of the ‘Don’t worry about the seam, we’ll fix that later’ talk. I can’t wait to hear how new young directors respond to seeing these characters. They’ll be asking how that was done and wanting to emulate our style, so the part of the industry that died out as a result of CG may get another life.”


I'm no CG hater but the effort made to combine CG with practical effects seamlessly in this film impresses me more with each viewing.
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I'm no CG hater but the effort made to combine CG with practical effects seamlessly in this film impresses me more with each viewing.
Yes indeed. I watched the prequels with my daughter during the holidays..............ouch! example: that "Dex" character in Attack Of The Clones...what a joke! How could a company like ILM come up with these subpar visuals, not to mention at the exact same time we had LOTR... Anyway... They did a fantastic job in The Force Awakens, to make it look real, which makes the whole film even more engaging.

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Yes indeed. I watched the prequels with my daughter during the holidays..............ouch! example: that "Dex" character in Attack Of The Clones...what a joke! How could a company like ILM come up with these subpar visuals, not to mention at the exact same time we had LOTR... Anyway...
LOTR didnt have that good effects most of the time. I prefer the practical effects that were used in LOTR.
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Optics for the Growing Large Format Shoots

Hey guys, I'm not sure where to post this since there's several places where it might be appropriate. Since it regards cinematography evolution, it is good here. Because the article speaks to the hunger of many AVS members for "sharper, sharper, sharper," it would fit in a number of places such as the projection threads.

We all knew of Tarantino resurrecting Ultra Panavision 70 for The Hateful Eight, and you may also be aware of the same lenses being used for Rogue One, although it is a digital shoot. I was not aware that the demand for large formats (large imaging chips) is growing such that there is also a significant new demand for the variety of lenses that serve large formats. I stumbled on this article on the Panavision site that explains what they are doing there. I think that you will find especially interesting the discussion of intrinsic an artistic objectives of the various lenses, and engineering factors of large formats that compare to human visual perception. Enjoy.

http://www.panavision.com/dan-sasaki...al-engineering
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