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Yes, fine, in cases like those the franchise brand overrides the need for stars. That still won't help Valerian any. It has no franchise branding anyone has heard of either.

All it has is: "From the director who made a movie you liked 20 years ago, but has mostly made a lot of crap nobody went to see in the meantime."

But it has this:





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Good film Chronicles

Yeah, that was an interesting and uniquely shot movie.


As well, he also had a role in Metallica's "Through The Never" Blu-ray.

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Did anyone see this in 3-d today? Thoughts?

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Did anyone see this in 3-d today? Thoughts?
Im going either tomorrow or Sunday and plan to see it in 3d, Dunkirk next weekend.
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Ouch.



"The Razzies don't need to wait until the end of the year to anoint a winner for 2017. The Golden Turkey Awards should be republished with a new cover. Euro-trash is back, while sci-fi will need to lick its wounds for a while. Dane DeHaan, who has starred in two of the most egregiously bloated misfires of the year with A Cure for Wellness and now this, should do a couple of indie films, while Cara Delevingne needs to learn there is more to acting than smirking and eye-rolling. Rihanna should pretend this never happened. And the Hollywood studio chiefs can breathe easy that, this time, at least, they'll escape blame for making a giant summer franchise picture that nobody wants to see, since this one's a French import.
Yes, Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets really is that bad, bad enough that you don't know for the longest time that Valerian is one of the lead characters and not a planet or a spaceship. Sporting special effects and sets that smack of 50-year-old Barbarella-style tackiness, Luc Besson's $200-million eyesore will barely trigger a momentary blip on the American box-office radar screen, leaving Besson with the lone hope that there are parts of the world where the entertainment tastes remain, ahem, less discriminating."



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Ouch.



"The Razzies don't need to wait until the end of the year to anoint a winner for 2017. The Golden Turkey Awards should be republished with a new cover. Euro-trash is back, while sci-fi will need to lick its wounds for a while. Dane DeHaan, who has starred in two of the most egregiously bloated misfires of the year with A Cure for Wellness and now this, should do a couple of indie films, while Cara Delevingne needs to learn there is more to acting than smirking and eye-rolling. Rihanna should pretend this never happened. And the Hollywood studio chiefs can breathe easy that, this time, at least, they'll escape blame for making a giant summer franchise picture that nobody wants to see, since this one's a French import.
Yes, Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets really is that bad, bad enough that you don't know for the longest time that Valerian is one of the lead characters and not a planet or a spaceship. Sporting special effects and sets that smack of 50-year-old Barbarella-style tackiness, Luc Besson's $200-million eyesore will barely trigger a momentary blip on the American box-office radar screen, leaving Besson with the lone hope that there are parts of the world where the entertainment tastes remain, ahem, less discriminating."



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After seeing the movie, whoever wrote that is a total ****** and should not be trusted for anything in life, their taste is that bad. It was not some master class of movie making and storytelling, but it was a great universe to visit and by far the best looking movie of the past decade.

I do not expect it to get proper large screen format treatment past the weekend though. Even for the Thursday night screenings, which I saw, it had time splits with last weeks planet of the apes movie for the same dolby cinema theater. See it in proper form with laser projection while you can.
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^^ I agree, a visual stunner in every sense of the word. I wouldnt say it was the best 3d experience but it was enjoyable. The story is ok but and the DeHaan and Cara are meh together. I would say that it may not be worth to some to go to the theater to catch it.

I will say this will be a must have for home theater, if it gets the proper treatment it will be the king for video demos at home. Im going to catch the 2d version next week in a different theater that has better audio. Nothing stood out but I dont think the sound is as good where I saw it and for some reason my go to didnt have 3d.

The sooner this gets the home release the better, honestly I hope it tanks so it will get here quicker because Ill say it again, its a visual stunner.
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Saw it last night in Dolby Cinema. It was good, was missing something to make it epic. But looking at box office, looks like it bombed here in the US.

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^^ I agree, a visual stunner in every sense of the word. I wouldnt say it was the best 3d experience but it was enjoyable. The story is ok but and the DeHaan and Cara are meh together. I would say that it may not be worth to some to go to the theater to catch it.

I will say this will be a must have for home theater, if it gets the proper treatment it will be the king for video demos at home. Im going to catch the 2d version next week in a different theater that has better audio. Nothing stood out but I dont think the sound is as good where I saw it and for some reason my go to didnt have 3d.

The sooner this gets the home release the better, honestly I hope it tanks so it will get here quicker because Ill say it again, its a visual stunner.
Too bad. I was looking forward to this but will skip till BR comes out. At least I'll get GOT S07E02 tonight.
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Yes it is a visual stunner of a movie I did like it but very little Chemistry from the two actors.
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Saw it last night in Dolby Cinema. It was good, was missing something to make it epic. But looking at box office, looks like it bombed here in the US.
History repeats itself, Fifth Element took years of home video to achieve it's cult status.

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Looks like EuropaCorp stock took a bit of a downturn on this film.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-bombs-1023823

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If the weak reviews weren??t bad enough, the stock market has now weighed in on Luc Besson??s Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets, with EuropaCorp closing down 8.31 percent Monday in trading on France??s Bourse.

The stock ended the day at ?3.50 ($4.07) per share, with EuropaCorp losing ?15 million in value since Friday's closing.

Valerian, Besson??s years-in-the-making sci-fi epic, opened in fifth place in North America over the weekend with just $17 million from 3,553 screens, trailing Christopher Nolan??s war epic Dunkirk and the R-rated comedy Girls Trip, which opened to $50.5 million and $30.4 million, respectively, as well as Spider-Man: Homecoming and War for the Planet of the Apes, which are weeks into wide release.

Touted as the most expensive indie ever made, and certainly the most expensive French film, the $180 million Valerian stars Cara Delevingne, Dane DeHaan and Rihanna.

Analysts had boosted the stock in recent weeks on a predicted worldwide box office of $500 million. Firm Gilbert Dupont had rated the stock as a "buy" in May on expectations of a blockbuster box office, in part because of its cast of young actors and its strong distribution partnership with STX in the U.S., but Besson??s film failed to deliver.

While EuropaCorp??s exposure on Valerian is somewhat limited, as the pic was largely financed by presales in 120 countries, it still doesn??t bode well for the long-term strength of the company.

EuropaCorp posted a loss of a record ?120 million ($136 million) for the fiscal year in results released in June, after a series of failures. Shut In, starring Naomi Watts; Miss Sloane, starring Jessica Chastain; The Circle, starring Tom Hanks and Emma Watson; and the Kevin Spacey cat comedy Nine Lives all tanked at the box office.

Besson had been looking to establish Valerian as a tentpole to rescue the ailing studio, and had a sequel planned.
I haven't seen it and will wait for its arrival on video. Will it become a cult hit like The Fifth Element? Perhaps but it's lacking Bruce Willis, Milla Jovovich, Gary Oldman, Ian Holm and Chris Tucker.

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-bombs-1023823



I haven't seen it and will wait for its arrival on video. Will it become a cult hit like The Fifth Element? Perhaps but it's lacking Bruce Willis, Milla Jovovich, Gary Oldman, Ian Holm and Chris Tucker.

I think it lacks some of the iconic set pieces to achieve the same cult status, in addition to key characters.

No Diva like set piece that was standout. The intro was a bit inspired and interesting, but not quite in the same class. And I'm sorry, but Zorg was just a great character.


Now that I think of it, all this movie really needed to get there were more interesting characters. The villain was not campy enough, too serious, and if you are going to be serious, at least be over the top. I did like the look of those droids though, the moment you saw them you knew trouble was coming.
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I think it lacks some of the iconic set pieces to achieve the same cult status, in addition to key characters.

No Diva like set piece that was standout. The intro was a bit inspired and interesting, but not quite in the same class. And I'm sorry, but Zorg was just a great character.


Now that I think of it, all this movie really needed to get there were more interesting characters. The villain was not campy enough, too serious, and if you are going to be serious, at least be over the top. I did like the look of those droids though, the moment you saw them you knew trouble was coming.
Yeah, The Fifth Element was campy in parts, but it was camp with heart, and that elevated it. Willis and Jovovich also had great on-screen chemistry, Delevigne and Dehaan do not.

Dehaan is really what ruins the movie, it would've been much better had they cast someone that could've instilled some class and polish to the role.

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This is a great looking movie (especially the prologue), but it lacks the stellar cast, charm and humour of the Fifth Element. It probably won't become a cult classic, but I still enjoyed the film. In comparison, it's not as bad as Jupiter Ascending and is about on par with John Carter.
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It will become a "lemme demo my pj for ya" classic
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I don't know if I would enjoy Valerian, but the fact that such disparaging remarks were made about The Fifth Element, which I do enjoy, is interesting.
A fair number of critics seem to despise Besson as a filmmaker, including The Fifth Element. And not all of them are stick-up-the-arse pretentious types either.


I tend to rewatch parts of The Fifth Element whenever it comes on tv, but I notice that I've been increasingly ambivalent about it. I used to like it better, but maybe I was more easily seduced by the visuals in years past. But these days films with very good visuals are a dime a dozen. I just don't think it's that good of a movie in any respect other than visual. Not particularly charming or funny, only moderately so. Just a decent entertainment. IMO, of course.

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But it has this:

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I don't understand it when people use such obviously photo-shopped or airbrushed-into-oblivion images like this when trying to showcase someones beauty. It's just too artificial looking to me to inspire much awe. I don't know whether or not to believe it.


Even something like this would be more effective, IMO. At least you can tell that it's a real person that you have no shot at.
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I don't understand it when people use such obviously photo-shopped or airbrushed-into-oblivion images like this when trying to showcase someones beauty. It's just too artificial looking to me to inspire much awe. I don't know whether or not to believe it.
I know...but I like her expression on this one.... she has, to me, a nearly perfect body and such a unique beauty... Anyways... I plan to see the movie soon, regardless of reviews.
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she has, to me, a nearly perfect body and such a unique beauty...
I thought she looks anorexic. But hey, different strokes for different folks...

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I expect that the lack of a star will really hurt the movie's box office chances. A goofy European sci-fi flick like this is inherently a risky proposition in the North American market, and this one doesn't have a leading man like Bruce Willis to anchor it. Nobody gives a crap about Dane DeHaan.
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Is a "Told you so" in order now?
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I know...but I like her expression on this one.... she has, to me, a nearly perfect body and such a unique beauty... Anyways... I plan to see the movie soon, regardless of reviews.
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Well I never thought it would happen - (note my signature below) - this was the first movie that I have ever left before it was over.
Not because I just couldn't take it any more - - - but because it was a weekday matinee, I had other things I could be doing, and frankly didn't care about the characters or story enough to stay any longer.
Major swing and miss for me. I might try again when it rents - - but I doubt it.
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Looks like EuropaCorp stock took a bit of a downturn on this film.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-bombs-1023823



I haven't seen it and will wait for its arrival on video. Will it become a cult hit like The Fifth Element? Perhaps but it's lacking Bruce Willis, Milla Jovovich, Gary Oldman, Ian Holm and Chris Tucker.

Yeah, it lacks the stellar cast that Element had to achieve that cult status. While Valerian will have its fans among the Scifi/Space Opera adherents (I'm one as I really liked some elements of the movie) it will not reach the heights of popularity that Element did.

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I was going to go see this but reading the reviews I think I will wait for BD.

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I was going to go see this but reading the reviews I think I will wait for BD.
This is looking like a rental.

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Saw it and enjoyed it. Not great, but I took it for the comic/graphic novel that it was based on. Quite often these tend to stretch reality a lot and this was no exception. Even though it didn't live up to the hype, it was still entertaining. Growing up seeing a lot of sci-fi with poor early effects and even worse dialogue I probably appreciate the spectacle of today's movies and can look past less than perfect.
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