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Does anyone still have LaserDiscs?
What is your most coveted one in your collection?
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Yeah, I have a few. My favorite is "No Quarter" the Page/Plant concert.

I've looked several times, but haven't been able to find this on BluRay. Unfortunately the LaserDisc player has started to have alittle difficulty switching sides of the disc. It would be great if Jimmy Page would release this concert on BluRay someday, I'm sure theres a market for it.
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I still have a couple hundred discs. Haven't watched one in years.

I'm not sure if "most coveted" means one I like the most, or disc someone else is most likely to envy. At one point, the Japanese import of Song of the South was the most valuable discs I owned, and I paid a stupid amount of money for it only to discover that I don't particularly like the movie. I'm not sure if its value still holds up today with the proliferation of bootleg DVDs.

Some of my favorite discs that I'm glad to keep around as collector's items include:

Star Wars Definitive Collection (box set)
Nightmare Before Christmas (box set)
Tron (box set)
Pulp Fiction (Criterion box set)
Se7en (Criterion box set)

Most of my best ones are Japanese imports:

Dune (box set)
Aladdin (box set)
Twin Peaks (three box sets)
Indiana Jones Trilogy (box set)
The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (box set)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (three box sets)
Neon Genesis Evangelion: Death and Rebirth / The End of Evangelion (box set)

The End of Evangelion box set is a massive thing that contains books and toys inside.

Almost all of these have been supplanted by DVD or Blu-ray editions with superior video/audio quality (and no burned-in subtitles), but I like keeping the LDs around on my shelf.
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Does anyone still have LaserDiscs?
 
Not laserdisc but VIDEODISCs are what I wanna get!!! (A player -- MONO)

I have 1 movie right now but no player



Congrats on all your movies guys!!!!!!!
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Here ya go, dude.

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I miss the Dolby and DTS intros that they used to have before playing the movie on LaserDisc. I wish they would do this more on DVDs.
My two favorite Dolby LaserDisc intros:

Doby Broadway demo:

Dolby Egypt demo:
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I still have a few LDs. Sold the majority eons ago. Dug out and dusted off my player about a year ago. Put in my Star Wars LD to watch Greedo shoot first. Then back into storage it went.

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Does anyone still have LaserDiscs?
What is your most coveted one in your collection?
Not one, rather a box set/collection - now don't LAUGH, but I collected the entire Sailor Moon series including all of the movies and Memorial discs when I lived in Japan, and brought them home with me. Hey, I hear you laughing....

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Neon Genesis Evangelion: Death and Rebirth / The End of Evangelion (box set)

The End of Evangelion box set is a massive thing that contains books and toys inside.
Yep! This set kicks A$$! What I love about LD Box Sets - all the goodies that you could get like this. Got the same one, love it.
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I have maybe a dozen laserdisc. I don't think any are particularly valuable.

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I have a box of them and some were those special editions at over $100 and often 3-5 discs. These days I balk at paying more than $20 for anything. The player sits nearby to the TV but the new 4K TV doesn't have S-Video input so will look for an S-Video to HDMI converter as I don't think composite would be very satisfying though I might try it. When I watched laserdiscs it was on a TV with S-Video in.
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The player sits nearby to the TV but the new 4K TV doesn't have S-Video input so will look for an S-Video to HDMI converter as I don't think composite would be very satisfying though I might try it. When I watched laserdiscs it was on a TV with S-Video in.
You're actually likely to get better results using the Composite connection. Laserdisc video is encoded on disc in Composite format. In order to display an image, that Composite signal has to be run through a comb filter. The RCA Composite Video output is a direct connection from the player to your TV, upon which the TV will send it through a comb filter.

If you use an LD player's S-video output, you rely on the comb filter inside the player. The last Laserdisc player was designed over 20 years ago. The chips inside them are antiquated, compared to what even a low-end TV today will have.
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I recently took about 50 of them to the local landfill. Could I have sold them? Probably. Did I care to? Apparently not. After so many years they were just in the way. I was happy to be rid of them, though I do admit I had a rush of memories as I threw them to the ground with extreme prejudice. No tears of regret shed as of yet.

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You're actually likely to get better results using the Composite connection. Laserdisc video is encoded on disc in Composite format. In order to display an image, that Composite signal has to be run through a comb filter. The RCA Composite Video output is a direct connection from the player to your TV, upon which the TV will send it through a comb filter.

If you use an LD player's S-video output, you rely on the comb filter inside the player. The last Laserdisc player was designed over 20 years ago. The chips inside them are antiquated, compared to what even a low-end TV today will have.
For kicks I might hook up the player to composite and see how it does.

Believe it or not I do run into confused people who thought laserdisc was superior to DVD. I should find one those I can give "good deal" on a "rare collection of laserdiscs with a rare player."
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Believe it or not I do run into confused people who thought laserdisc was superior to DVD. I should find one those I can give "good deal" on a "rare collection of laserdiscs with a rare player."
To be fair, for the first year or so, a lot of DVD releases were inferior to their corresponding Laserdiscs. That eventually cleared up when studios became more consistent with using anamorphic enhancement and got the hang of digital compression.

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To be fair, for the first year or so, a lot of DVD releases were inferior to their corresponding Laserdiscs. That eventually cleared up when studios became more consistent with using anamorphic enhancement and got the hang of digital compression.
Yes, you had to watch closely to make sure you got an anamorphic DVD and the studios also didn't like 480p. A lot of DVD compression apps I tried even in 2000 seemed to have just implemented the sample code which was not optimized.
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I have a box of them and some were those special editions at over $100 and often 3-5 discs. These days I balk at paying more than $20 for anything. The player sits nearby to the TV but the new 4K TV doesn't have S-Video input so will look for an S-Video to HDMI converter as I don't think composite would be very satisfying though I might try it. When I watched laserdiscs it was on a TV with S-Video in.
Don't know if S-Video would be any better, but I did buy an inexpensive composite to HDMI converter, works finbe - passes video and audio no problems. However, it is limited in that a 4K TV, at least mine, while doing its best to upscale, can only do so much with a low, non-native resolution like this. It does work - but it is fairly disappointing to me, but it is more or less what I was expecting. Looks much better on an SD TV. Might look good on 720p set, doubt it'd look stellar on a 1080p set. The converter has a switch for 720p and 1080p. It was worth the $20 or so I spent.
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Most coveted discs? All 3 Star Wars movies in original theatrical cuts, Criterion Collection of Blade Runner and Apocalypse Now.
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Just to clarify, Blade Runner was Criterion but Apocalypse Now was not.

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Yeah all 3 star wars movies are in thier original analog format on Videodisc also but I notice PART 2 is 120Mins (Max time for a standard speed videodisc) -- That movie (Empire strikes back) is A LITTLE MORE THEN 120 so what did they cut out to make it 120 on the record??

I suppose they could have cut the credits @ the end and begginging to barely achieve 120 mins..... (All 3 are over 120)

Star wars - 121Mins
Empire Strikes back - 124Mins
Return of the Jedi - 131Mins

I have a copy of the shining on VHS and they did that on this particular copy I have...... It starts with him driving to the hotel (Opening credits) and the tapes stops exactly @ the end of the ending credits. As soon as you see "THE END" appear on the screen,the tape stops and starts to rewind.....

It says its a T-140 on the tape and it does stretch every min on that tape!!
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Yeah all 3 star wars movies are in thier original analog format on Videodisc
Stop. Really. Just stop.

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also but I notice PART 2 is 120Mins (Max time for a standard speed videodisc) -- That movie (Empire strikes back) is A LITTLE MORE THEN 120 so what did they cut out to make it 120 on the record??
Early Laserdisc copies of The Empire Strikes Back from CBS/Fox Home Video were time-compressed to fit on a single disc. No footage was cut, but the whole movie was sped up so it would not need to extend to a second disc.

Those copies were also pan-and-scan, but I'm sure you believe that's somehow a good thing anyway.

Later Laserdisc editions did not have these problems.

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Thank you... I assume they are sped up on videodisc also then? (I wouldnt want them then)

No later laserdiscs were done in SLP mode (Extended play) so no then they could fit the whole movie on 1 side...... (Videodiscs didnt ever have an SLP mode however)


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Thank you... I assume they are sped up on videodisc also then?
You're talking about CED? I don't know, probably. Who cares? Does anyone still have one of those players? The CEDs were pan-and-scan and less than VHS quality anyway.

Oh, wait, I almost forgot you're the guy who thinks VHS is the pinnacle of home video.

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I have no idea what you're asking.

There were two types of Laserdiscs: CAV got 30 minutes per side, and CLV got 60 minutes per side. It was not possible to fit a two-hour movie onto one side of a Laserdisc.

Early copies of The Empire Strikes Back were time-compressed to reduce the movie's running time to 120 minutes so that it would fit onto a single (two-sided) disc.

Later copies ran at the correct speed and spread the movie to three disc sides, with side breaks placed earlier in the movie to split it up more uniformly (approx. 50 minutes on sides 1 and 2, and 25 minutes on side 3).

The Star Wars Definitive Collection was entirely in CAV format. Each movie was spread across 5 disc sides.

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Yes buddy thats how it is on the videodisc also,its 120 mins (Same as the laserdisc)


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I wanted to share this with you Josh...... I dont wanna make ya mad buddy but here is someone showing THE SHINING on thier videodisc player AND IT LOOKS QUITE GOOD! (Just like VHS) and this is on 1 of those flat screen display devices......

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPMnFmf4IE

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IT LOOKS QUITE GOOD! (Just like VHS)
These two statements are contradictory. It is not possible for something to look like VHS, and also look good. It's one or the other.

You might as well say that something FEELS QUITE DRY! (Just like water).

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Well what did you think of the videodisc clip above??
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Well what did you think of the videodisc clip above??
What am I supposed to think of it? It looks horrendous.

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My favorite Laserdisc is Nirvana's "Live! Tonight! Sold Out!". I watch it on the old machine maybe once a year.
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What am I supposed to think of it? It looks horrendous.
 
Hmmmmm I think it looks QUITE GOOD for a being shown on a flat screen thing..
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Hmmmmm I think it looks QUITE GOOD for a being shown on a flat screen thing..
It doesn't surprise me that you think the ghastly colors, painfully overblown contast, and huge horizontal bands of tracking noise look terrific to you.

"Flat screen thing," eh? You're still watching everything on a TV from the '80s, aren't you?

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