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Reference DVDs
LATEST RESULTS

This list reflects the most recent selections of "Reference" DVDs by the members of AVS Forum. Each asterisk represents a negative vote against that title. All DVDs are region 1 unless otherwise stated.

2 Fast 2 Furious
The 6th Day
21 Grams*
Adaptation
Adventures of Robin Hood*
Air Force One (SB)
All About the Benjamins DTS
Alien (2003 release)
Alien 3 (2003 release)
Alien Resurrection (2003 release)**
Animatrix
Austin Powers: Goldmember Widescreen
The Bad and the Beautiful
Band of Brothers
Batman Begins*
Batman Returns**
Below
Black Hawk Down SB (Region 1)
Black Hawk Down SB (Region 3 (also plays in Region 1 players))
Blade
Blade 2*
The Bourne Identity**
Braham Stoker's Dracula SB*
Bring it On
Brotherhood Of The Wolf - Region 1 - Canada - 3-Disc DTS Collectors Edition
A Bugs Life 2-disc Collector's Edition*
Cape Fear (1991)
Casablanca SE*
Cat in the Hat
Chicken Run
The Chronicles of Riddick (Director's Cut)
Collateral*
The Cooler*
Coral Reef Adventure
The Count of Monte Cristo (2002)
Cradle 2 the Grave
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon SB
Dances With Wolves Ext. Ed.*
Dare Devil
Death to Smoochy
Deep Blue Sea*
Desperado SB
Dinosaur: 2-disc Collector's Edition
Driven
Drumline
Equilibrium*
The Fast and the Furious
The Fifth Element (Ulitimate Edition)
Final Destination II
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (single disk)
Freddy vs Jason***
From Hell
Get Carter (Region 1)
Gone With The Wind: Collector's Edition
Ghost Ship
Gothika
Hannibal*
The Haunting
Hellboy
House of 1000 Corpses
Hollow Man (SB)
Hulk**
The Hunted - Widescreen (2003)
I, Robot
Ice Age
IMAX: Super Speedway - The Mach II Special Edition
IMAX: The Magic of Flight
The Incredibles
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom*
The Insider
Insomnia (2002)
Jason X**
Jurassic Park (SB) (Region 2)
Jurassic Park III (SB) (Region 2)
A Knight's Tale (SB)
Lion King
Lost In Space
LOTR: Fellowship Of The Ring EE*
LOTR: The Two Towers EE*
LOTR: Return of the King: EE*
Man On Fire
Mask of Zorro (SB)
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Memento SE
Microcosmos
Mission Impossible 2
Monsters Inc.*
Moulin Rouge (2001)
Mummy Returns**
North by Northwest*
Now, Voyager
The One (SB)
Pearl Harbor SE (4 disc set)
Pitch Black**
Pleasantville
The Pledge*
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Ready to Rumble
Rebecca
Resident Evil (SB)
The Rock (Criterion)*
The Rundown
The Running Man: Special Edition
Saving Private Ryan
Seabiscuit
Se7en SE
Seven Years In Tibet (SB)
Shark Tale
Shrek**
Shrek 2
Sin City
Singin in the Rain SE
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Solaris (2003 Clooney)
Spartan
Spider-Man (SB)**
Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over
Star Ship Troopers (SB)
Star Wars: Ep II: Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Ep III: Revenge of the Sith*
Star Wars: Ep IV: A New Hope*
Star Wars: Ep V: The Empire Strikes Back
Sunset Boulevard
Swordfish
Tears of the Sun*
Terminator 2: Extreme
Terminator III**
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003*
Thirteen Ghosts
Titan A.E. (SE)
Tomb Raider: Cradle Of Life
Torque
Toy Story 1
Toy Story 2
Toy Story 10th Anniversary
Training Day
U-571
Undercover Brother
Underworld
Underworld: DTS (Region 3)
Underworld (SB)
Van Helsing
Vertical Limit (SB)
Winged Migration
X-Men
X-Men 2**


Removed from list with three or more negative votes

Title....................................................... .................Reason(s)
Aliens ------------------------ 3 negatives ------------ lacks detail
Apollo 13 DTS (2001) ------- 3 negatives ------------ EE
Bad Boys II ------------------- 3 negatives ------------ EE, framing problems
Braveheart ------------------- 3 negatives ------------ white speck, noise
Die Another Day (Region 1) ---- 3 negatives ------------ EE
Fargo SE --------------------- 3 negatives ------------ EE and noisy
The Fifth Element SB ---------- 3 negatives ------------ EE/ringing
Finding Nemo ----------------- 4 negatives ------------ compression noise, macro blocking
Freddy vs Jason --------------- 3 negatives ------------ EE
Gattaca SB ------------------- 3 negatives ------------ EE
Gladiator --------------------- 3 negatives ------------ EE
The Last of the Mohicans DTS (Dir's Exp Ed) --------- 3 negatives ----- soft
Mummy ----------------------- 3 negatives ------------ noise
Once Upon a Time in Mexico --- 6 negatives ------------ Contrast, soft
Open Range ------------------ 3 negatives ------------ EE, soft, heavily filtered in the high frequencies, noisy in dark scenes
Pirates of the Caribbean ------- 5 negatives ------------ EE, compression noise
Stargate: Ultimate Ed. -------- 4 negatives ------------ EE
Unbreakable ------------------ 3 negatives ------------ EE, video noise

EE = Excessive Edge Enhancement


How the list works:
1) Please use the below definition of "reference" when evaluating DVDs for this list.
2) We need for you to critique the DVDs without regard to content (it's OK if the movie stinks, we're looking at PQ).
3) DVDs require 2 nominations to be added to the list and must receive three negative votes in order to be removed.
4) There is no need to read the entire thread to offer your opinion but if you want to do so, please feel free to read it.
5) We are looking for DVDs that would be a 9 or 10 on a 10 point scale; 10 being the best.

Definition of Reference DVD:
"Reference DVD" for this list - a DVD should look like the best possible print, pristine or restored, reproduction of the movie as presented in theaters. The DVD transfer should have low noise, very low edge enhancement, deep blacks and very few motion or compression related artifacts. The presence of these is allowed but they are NOT to be distracting.
If there is more than one source for a digital theater presentation, HD or film, a title may be considered for the list if it reproduces any in a true sense without significant transfer faults.

Ten Point Scale:
10) Reference - Ultimate in DVD experience. No noticeable flaws
9) Excellent - reference quality other than one minor flaw which is not distracting. Has superb quality throughout.
8) Very Good - a very remarkable DVD but has two or three minor flaws (not distracting).
7) Good - has several outstanding points but may have several minor flaws (none distracting)
6) Fine/ Above average - DVD that has a couple of notable qualities
5) Average - The minimum one would expect from a DVD in reasonable PQ and Audio but nothing special. Fully watchable and allows the viewer to enjoy the contents on the DVD.

Everything below this grade point would allow for distracting flaws which pull you out of the film and/or be VHS quality and below.
4) Below Average - Above VHS quality but has distracting flaws
3) Poor Plus - VHS quality
2) Poor - Below normal VHS quality
1) Poor Minus - no redeeming qualities whatsoever other than content. Bad DVD all around
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Nomination List

NOMINATION LIST
Here is the most recent nomination list. These DVDs have received one nomination but have not been "seconded".

A Very Long Engagement
About Schmidt
Alien Resurrection 1999
An Ideal Husband
Analyze This
Angel Season 3
Apollo 13 Anniversary Edition (new release)
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Seasons 2 and 3
Army of Darkness (Region 3(by Deltamac HK for MGM))
Atlantis The Lost Empire 2-Disc CE
Baraka
Batman and Robin SE
Beverly Hills Cop
Blade DTS (Region 2 (Japanese))
Blue Crush
The Bourne Supremacy
Casper
Charlotte Gray
Cinderella
City of God ("Cidade de Deus") Region 2 UK
Dante's Peak DTS
Das Boot (SB)
Deathwatch
Deuce Bigelow, Male Gigolo
Die Another Day (Region 4)
Down with Love
Dune SE - Region 0 - UK
EAGLES-Hell Freezes Over
Exorcist: The Beginning
Finding Nemo (Region 2)
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes - The Diamond Collection
Gladiator (SB) (R2 UK)
Godzilla
HERO
House of Flying Daggers
IMAX: Africa: The Serengeti
IMAX: Blue Planet
IMAX: Dolphins
The Iron Giant: SE
Kangaroo Jack
Lawrence of Arabia (SB) (Region 2 UK)
The Letter
Man Without A Face
Men In Black II
Men of Honor
Metropolis (animated)
Monster's Inc. (Region 2)
Natural Born Killers (theatrical version)
Near Dark
Northfork
Notting Hill
Once Upon a Time in America
The Others
Patriot SB
Paycheck
Playmakers (Season 1)
Red Dragon: Single Disc Collector's Ed. (widescreen)
The Red Violin
Rock Star
Rocky Horror Picture Show 25th Anniversary Edition
So Close
Soul Plane (unrated)
Spy Kids 2
Star Trek First Contact CE
Starship Troopers
Super Troopers
THEM!
There's Something (More) About Mary
Tomb Raider - Cradle Of Life (Region 3) DTS
Under the Tuscan Sun
Underworld - 2 Disc Unrated Extended Cut
Unstoppable
Vanilla Sky

One Nomination but already has one negative comment
2001: A Space Odyssey*
Behind Enemy Lines*
Brotherhood Of The Wolf - Region 1 - U.S. - Universal Pictures 1-Disc*
Catch Me If You Can*
The Cell*
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind*
Das Boot*
Dawn of the Dead Director's Cut (2004)*
Dirty Pretty Things*
The Good Thief*
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Johnny English*
Return of the King:Exended Edition*
Mars Attacks*
The Matrix*
A Nightmare on Elm Street*
Panic Room SB*
Planet Of The Apes 25th Anniversary Edition*
Resident Evil*
Rules of Engagement*
Scorpion King*
The Sixth Sense: Two-disc Special Edition*
Spy Game*
Strange Days*
THX Ultimate Demo Disc*
Tomb Raider*
True Romance directors cut*
WishMaster 3*

One nomination but already has two negative comments
Alias Season 1**
Amelie**
Chicago**
Hidalgo**
The Last Samurai**
Master and Commander**
O Brother, Where Art Thou**
Spider-Man: 2-Disc Special Edition**
THX 1138**
Twenty Million Miles to Earth**

Bumped before being added to the list because of three negative votes
Enemy of the State***
Jackie Brown***
Kill Bill Vol. I*** Bumped due to lack of detail
Lawrence of Arabia SB*** Bumped due to EE
Tombstone: Vista series*** Bumped due to EE and noise
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Dan added Apollo 13 DTS and Austin Powers: Goldmember Widescreen to the Nomination List and Hannibal to the Reference List.
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Austin Powers - Goldmember moved from Nomination List to Reference List. Finding Nemo removed from the Reference List. Johnny English and The Hunted - Widescreen (2003) added to the Nominations List and other minor adjustments to the thread.
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Dan added Othello (1995) to the Nomination List.
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Changes to the Nomination List

Dan added:

Imax: Magic of Flight

Men In Black II

Tears Of The Sun


Apollo 13 was moved down to "One nomination but already has two negative comments"
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Dan moved Titan A.E. (SE) from the Nomination List to the Reference List.
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Removed Othello from the Nomination List and moved Undercover Brother from the Nomination List to the Reference List.
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Dan added to the Nomination List:

Drumline
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes - The Diamond Collection
Matrix Reloaded
Moulin Rouge
Rocky Horror Picture Show 25th Anniversary Edition


One Nomination but already has one negative comment:

The Cell

Moved from the Nomination List to the Reference List:

Mission Impossible 2
Tears of the Sun
Dances With Wolves Ext. Ed.
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Dan added to the Nomination List:

Rock Star
City of God ("Cidade de Deus") Region 2 UK


and moved from the Nomination List to the Reference List:

Black Hawk Down SB (Region 3 (also plays in Region 1 players))
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The Sixth Sense: Two-disc Special Edition
Underworld: DTS (Region 3)


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Dan's update:

Removed from the Nomination List and added to the Reference List:

Moulin Rouge
Underworld: DTS (Region 3)
Toy Story 1


Removed from the "Reference" list and moved to the
Removed from list with three or more negative votes
The Last of the Mohicans DTS (Director's Expanded Edition) --------- 3 negatives ----- soft

Added to the Nomination List:

Charlotte Gray
Death to Smoochy


Moved from One nomination but already has one negative comment to
One nomination but already has two negative comments

Amelie**
O Brother, Where Art Thou**
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Dan made the following changes:

Nomination list:
added:
21 Grams
Ghost Ship


Reference list:
asterisk for:
JasonX** due to frame problems -- 30-24fps conversion problems

Removed from "Reference" list with three or more negative votes:
Bad Boys II*** frame problems -- 30-24fps conversion problems
Gladiator*** EE
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Dan made these changes:

moved to the Reference list
21 Grams
U-571

added to the Nomination List:
Matrix Revolutions
A Nightmare on Elm Street
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Dan Made the following changes.

Added asterisks to the following:
Spy Game -- EE
Hannibal -- EE and low detail
The Matrix -- low detail in blacks
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003 -- EE and framing

Moved to "Reference" list
Animatrix
From Hell
The Haunting
Jurassic Park SB (Region 2)
Mask of Zorro SB
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Dan made the following changes:

added asterisks to -
Pitch Black* - Noise and framing conversion problems
The Sixth Sense: Two-disc Special Edition - EE and lack of detail

added to the Nomination List -
Bring it On

moved to the "Reference" list
Rules of Engagement
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Dan made the following changes:

Added to the "Reference" list:
Matrix Revolutions

Added to the "Nomination" List:
Jurassic Park III SB (Region 2, Japan)
The Running Man SE (2004)
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Dan made the following changes:

added asterisk for the following:
Stargate: Ultimate Ed.* - video noise

moved to the "Refence" list:
Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over
Drumline
All About the Benjamins DTS
Mummy
Mummy Returns

added to the "Nomination" list:
Angel Season 3
Kill Bill Volume 1
The Good Thief
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Dan made the following changes:

added asterisks for the following DVDs:
Enemy of the State* EE
Mummy - added two asterisks for EE
Rules of Engagement compression artifacts


added to the "Nomination" list:
Deep Blue Sea
Winged Migration


Removed from the "Reference" list:
Stargate: Ultimate Ed.** added two astrisks for EE
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added an asterisk for the following:
Freddy vs Jason - unstable colors
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Dan made the following changes:

added an asterisk for the following:
Mummy Returns - EE, video noise
Freddy vs Jason* - Colors blocked up causing lack of detail
Johnny English - EE
Master and Commander - artifacts

moved to the "Reference" list:
The Bourne Identity
The Rundown - received a "second" before the first nomination was posted
A Knight's Tale SB

added to the "Nomination" list:
Master and Commander
Dirty Pretty Things
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added to Nomination list:
Adaptation
Brotherhood Of The Wolf
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
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Dan made the following changes:

added asterisks to the following:
Brotherhood Of The Wolf - Region 1 - U.S. - Universal Pictures 1-Disc - EE
Hulk - poor black levels
Master and Commander* - compression artifacts

added to the Nomination list:
Alias - Season 1
Band of Brothers
Dune SE - Region 0 - UK
Gothika
Man Without A Face

moved to the Reference list:
Brotherhood Of The Wolf - Region 1 - Canada - 3-Disc DTS Collectors Edition
Deep Blue Sea
House of 1000 Corpses
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003) 2-Disc Set*
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Dan made the following changes:

added two asterisks to the following:
Alias Season 1 - EE, soft

added to the nomination list:
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Running Man Special Edition

nominated, seconded, and thirded so this was added to the Reference list:
Gothika
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Dan made the following changes:

added to the Nomination list:
Baraka
Finley Fantasy

added an asterisk to:
Pitch Black** specks, halos

Pitch Black has now received three negatives and is removed from the list.
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Dan made the following changes:

added to the Nomination list:
Cat in the Hat
Natural Born Killers (theatrical version)

moved to the Reference list:
Ghost Ship
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Dan made the following changes:

moved to the "Reference" list:
Blade 2
Torque

Earz has retracted his negatives for
Blade
Pitch Black, and
Underword.

Pitch Black is hereby moved back to the "Reference" list but still has two asterisks. The asterisks for Blade and Underworld are removed.
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Dan made the following changes:

added an asterisk to:
Nightmare On Elm Street
Strange Days


added to the nomination list:
Atlantis The Lost Empire 2-Disc CE
Blue Crush
The Cooler
Underworld - 2 Disc Unrated Extended Cut


moved to the "Reference" list:
Cape Fear 1991
Swordfish
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