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post #1 of 17 Old 10-03-2000, 08:27 PM - Thread Starter
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Since Eric made a Best Bond ever, I feel inclined to make a Worst Bond ever. It will be interesting to see who wins this prestigious award!

My vote goes to For Your Eyes Only. I was watching this for the second time tonight on TBS and couldn't finish it. This is the worst Bond I've seen. The chase scenes lasted way too long and were dumb. For example, the opening scene in the helicopter, first, it goes on 3 minutes longer than it should, second, when Bond picks the bad guy up with the rails and drops into the smoke stack I couldn't stop laughing at how stupid it was. The script is terrible! and Roger Moore is a bad James Bond. Mix that with bad supporting actresses: Carole Bouquet (Greek girl), Lynn-Holly Johnson, (blond figure skater), and the strangest soundtrack on a Bond film to date, and you have the worst Bond ever.

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If Roger Moore is a bad James Bond, what about Timothy Dalton?
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The worst Bond film has to be any starring Roger Moore. He was great as "The Saint" but became to "cutesy" as Bond. Everything became a joke, or a throwaway punch line. Gadgets galore and cardboard acting.

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Seb,
I think you may have opened up a can of worms here.
There is probably more bad than good James Bond movies.
Tim Dalton is just about the worst, so his movies stink. As for poor old Roger, well, he is such a gentleman, its hard to dislike him.
Think of his James Bond as an early, tongue in cheek, Mike Myers prototype.
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I have to agree that Dalton was very bad too.

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Although the story of 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' on good, George Lazenby killed the movie and really diminshed the Bond character.

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On the contrary, I quite like 'For Your Eyes Only'. And had not been Roger Moore that 007 may never return after the almost disastrous 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' by George Lazenby. I like all of Roger Moore's James Bond except 'Live and Let Die' despite starring Jane Seymour as the most beautiful Bond girl ever.
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Worst: License to Kill

I find For Your Eyes Only to be one of my favorites. Maybe because It's the first one I saw ever when I was about 12 and I went to see it alone. I still think it's one of the better movies. Whatever you think about Roger Moore I think he is the most identified with the character.

Oh, and Pierce is the best but TWINE is not as good as Goldeneye or TND.

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I'm not totally knocking Moore, since I have not seen him in anything other than Bond that is my criteria. The scripts in most of Moore's films were terrible so I guess it isn't totally his fault that he can't deliver bad lines well.

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Roger Moore wasn't too bad, not nearly as slick or refined, but he had his moments and was actually in more movies than Connery
All totalled, Connery made 7 Bond flicks, Lazenby made 1, Moore made 7, Dalton made 2, and Broznan made 3 (20 total). Connery's 7th flick (Never Say Never) was being filmed at about the same time Moore's 6th one (Octopussy) was being filmed (1983).

Here's a useful list:

Connery:
  • Dr. No (1962)
  • From Russia with Love (1963)
  • Goldfinger (1964)
  • Thunderball (1965)
  • You Only Live Twice (1967)
  • Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
  • Never Say Never Again (1983)

Lazenby:
  • On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)

Moore:
  • Live and Let Die (1973)
  • The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
  • The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
  • Moonraker (1979)
  • For Your Eyes Only (1981)
  • Octopussy (1983)
  • View to a Kill, A (1985)

Dalton:
  • Living Daylights, The (1987)
  • Licence to Kill (1989)

Brosnan:
  • GoldenEye (1995)
  • Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
  • The World Is Not Enough (1999)


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Thanks for the list.

Connery stikes 100% all basically good.

He may have worn a skirt but Lazemby outseduced all his peers. By playing the deuchy role he achieved his objectives. There is merit in that.
I like the film and 1 out of 1 is also 100%

Roger moore has Spy who loved me, moonraker,and eyes only as basically good, with three extra cheesy failures. 50%

Timothy Dalton's first was basically good. He scores 50%

The first two movies of Brosnan lacked luster, at the level of the two from moore and the second from Daltry. The mitigating circumstances is his third flick, that earns many special demerits to place him on contender for second best bond. Killing the leading Lady counts like two good flicks to me.

Goldfinger 1, the world is not enough 2, her Majesty's 3.
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The worst Bond movie will proably be the next one. How many can they make? I didn't much care for LICENSE TO KILL.

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I would have to say that the worst was Casino Royale 1967 with woody allen as Jimmy Bond http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Free, actually David Niven was James Bond. Woody Allen was his nephew or something......

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I'm a Connery man, but as much as I hate to say it, Diamonds are Forever is an exceedingly bad film. It's the Vegas scenes that do it in.

Worst title goes to "A View to a Kill."

Live & Let Die is also pretty putrid. Anytime Bond tries to get soul, it falls flat. Never worse than this, though.

I beg to differ on Dalton. He gave the part a realism that has not been equaled. Dalton is what a martini-gargling paid assasin would actually be like.

I liked Lazenby, too. But beyond scoring with Diana Rigg, it's right up there with Diamonds are Forever.

Overall, though, on the sheer sustained level of mediocrity (other than Octopussy, which was great) Messr. Moore is the worst.

In deference to the following post by Stacy Huff, who correctly pointed out the confusion between best and worst in this thread, the following are my best:

1. Goldfinger
2. Dr. No (the sheer emergence of it all)
3. From Russia with Love
4. The Living Daylights
5. Goldeneye
6. Octopussy


In no particular order, the following are my worst:

1. Diamonds are Forever
2. Tomorrow Never Dies
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
4. Every Roger Moore movie, except Octopussy


Oh, and, while Brosnan's been good, Tomorrow Never Dies is right up there with Telly Savalas' drugged bevy of beauties for sheer inane content.


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That's right Woody Allen was David Nivens nephew Jimmy Bond.

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I read this post and got a little confused. I couldn't tell if some people were listing the best or worst Bonds. Either way, my money on best Bond has to go to Connery. He is Bond. I read all the Fleming books, and that's who I saw. Moore had a few movies that I liked, especially early, but by the end he was just too old for the role. I liked Dalton as Bond and wish that he had had better scripts, but then the whole legal dispute put the franchise on hold and he really didn't get a chance. Lazenby didn't bother me, and I liked the story a little more than other (especially the most recent) movies, maybe because it seemed to draw so much directly from Fleming's book. Brosnan I like, but in my opinion these last three movies have been some of the worst, story-wise. I mean, come on--a guy manufacturing the news so he can sell papers? Gimme a break.

I think that the franchise started going downhill when they ran out of Fleming stories and started trying to come up with new super villains intent on ruling the world. Let's face it, once you save the world, it's hard to go back to a story about stealing a code machine. As the villains got dumber, the movies got worse. You still go watch because it's Bond, but it doesn't have the feel of the Connery movies. They're cartoons, and they have been for some time. I personally would like to see a more serious, Clancy-like Bond that didn't have some damn multi-billionaire with a secret lair, thousands on the payroll, and a plan to rule the world. I mean, come on--how do these guys recruit all these henchmen? The want ads? How do they build these hideouts with nobody ever figuring it out? Give us some political intrigue, some governments doing something. Even something like The Peacemaker would have been good for a Bond movie. But I'm sick of these ridiculous, over-the-top villians.

I think that the scripts nowadays are just plain bad. But here are the worst Bonds, for me:

A View to a Kill -- just tired and stupid.

Tomorrow Never Dies -- just plain stupid. That helicopter coming down the alley to decapitate Bond is insulting.

The Spy Who Loved Me -- perhaps the start of the long slide? The book was about a young girl who is riding her moped around and ends up in a hotel in the north with some bad guys and this spy who, as it turns out, takes care of the bad guys and loves her too. There was nobody named Jaws.

I like Brosnan, but even if you had the young Connery the movies today would still be bad because the scripts are so lame. I wish somebody would tell Cubby, or whoever is in charge, that an intelligent script wouldn't hurt.


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