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post #1 of 19 Old 06-19-2001, 08:04 AM - Thread Starter
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We've suspected it for some weeks, but it's finally offical:

http://www.dvdfile.com/software/dvd-...tml#06/19/2001

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I wonder what Lucas will charge for the two volume DVD set?

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Straight from the horses mouth at http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/ne...s20010619.html :

"On October 16, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will begin the worldwide release of Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace on
DVD. The highly anticipated arrival of Episode I marks the first film of the Star Wars saga to debut on DVD.
Enthusiastic fans of the film will be rewarded for their patience. Clocking in at about 480 minutes in length, it features over six hours of additional bonus material, including brand new visual effects sequences executed just for the DVD release.
Here's what the two-disc set will feature:
The Phantom Menace, mastered by THX for superior sound and picture quality, presented in Anamorphic Widescreen and Dolby 5.1 Surround EX (English), Dolby 2.0 Surround (English and Spanish), and Dolby 2.0 Surround (French, for Canadian release)
Audio commentary by Writer-Director George Lucas; Producer Rick McCallum; Co-Editor and Sound Designer Ben Burtt; Visual Effects Supervisors Scott Squires, John Knoll and Dennis Muren; and Animation Supervisor Rob Coleman, offering personal insights into the making of the film
Seven never-before-seen deleted scenes with full visual effects completed just for the DVD release
"The Beginning" -- an all-new hour-long documentary culled from over 600 hours of footage offering unprecedented access inside Lucasfilm and ILM during the making of Episode I
Multi-angle storyboard to animatic to finished film feature, that lets you flip through the various phases of development of key action sequences
Five behind-the-scenes featurettes exploring The Phantom Menace's storyline, designs, costumes, visual effects and fight scenes
The popular "Duel of the Fates" music video that debuted in 1999
All 12 parts of the Lynne's Diaries, the web documentaries that first appeared here at starwars.com
Galleries of theatrical posters, print campaign, and never-before-scene production photos
Downloaded by millions from starwars.com, the original theatrical teaser and launch trailers, plus seven TV spots including the "tone poems"
The two-disc set is priced at $ 29.98 in the U.S. and $ 41.98 in Canada."

Now I wanna know - 480 on two DVDs? They better be DVD18s then, or that bitrate is soo going to suck.

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Now I wanna know - 480 on two DVDs? They better be DVD18s then, or that bitrate is soo going to suck
I doubt it'll be a problem. What I think they probably did is engage in a bit of creative math. The movie itself is about 133 minutes. The commentary track could have been counted as "bonus material", so that's another 133 minutes. That leaves 214 minutes of stuff to be spread out on the remainder of the first disc and all of the second. No sweat at all.
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I was shocked that there is not a dts audio track.... Oh well.... http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

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SPIELBERG=DTS , no THX on DREAMWORKS dvd
LUCAS retaliates= strictly DOLBY and THX EX

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Originally posted by robena:
Well, I bought the LD, found the movie mediocre, and certainly won't buy the DVD. I'll wait for HD-DVD in 3 to 5 years when I will have forgotten enough of this movie to watch it again...

Sorry, but you must have been looking for the "I hate The Phantom Menace thread'. This aint it. Please post on topic.


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You miss the big picture guys: this has become a personam matter between Steven and Lucas, who are not so much no more: Steven is extremely pro DTS and is rumoured to have asked DTS to come up with something even better: DTS 96khz 24bits format ( just presented at Amsterdam fair). Also, Spielberg hasn't issued any THX Dreamworks dvd, which got Lucas upset. Note also that most dts from Dreamworks clearly beat the dolby versions ( even if tricks have been used, namely, a boost of a few dB, but hey, so does FOX). So do not expect ANY DTS from Lucas. And that might cause a problem for Indiana Jones trilogy: who will win there between the two ?
This is the real big picture, not the space or this or that. Each has his own company, each has his own prefered format and strong business ties with each (dts, dolby ).

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Havent the Star Wars prints gone moldy yet? Keep your hype Mr Luca$. I'll keep my $$$ and spend it on something more interesting thanks.

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Well, I bought the LD, found the movie mediocre, and certainly won't buy the DVD. I'll wait for HD-DVD in 3 to 5 years when I will have forgotten enough of this movie to watch it again...

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Its a shame there is no DTS on it, but its also a shame that they did not do a direct-to-digital transfer like "A Bug's Life" and "Toy Story". After all, at least 90% of the film exists in ILM's database.

Still, Ill be first in line for it.
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This came from dvdfile.com in an interview done TODAY JUNE, 19th with Lucasfim's VP of Marketing Jim Ward

DF: Needless to say, even in just the few hours since
the announcement this morning, we've received email
lamenting the lack of a DTS track on the DVD. Is it
correct there won't be one on there?

JW: That is correct. That was a tough call. When you go
about configuring and compiling a DVD, especially a
two-disc set, there is a lot of content issues and bandwidth
issues that we have to take into account. So we had to
make some tough choices in order to accommodate all of
the desires of everyone involved in terms of the content
included on the disc. And (not including a DTS track) was
just one of those decisions we had to make.

DF: Do you have any plans to release a separate
DTS version?

JW: There are no plans at this time, no.
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I think I'll wait until they issue the 3rd or 4th version of the DVD before spending my dollars (sorry went through that on the LD versions). Oh wait, by then we'll have DVD-HD available and I'll have to wait for George to go though different versions on that format, gee guess I'll never get around to owning any of the Star Wars movies.
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I placed my pre-order today!
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I'll wait for HD-DVD in 3 to 5 years
DVD as it exists now 720x480 is going to be around for at least the next 8-10 years. You forget that while DVD seems old (4 years to us HT enthusiasts), it is still considered a very new format for most folks.

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So do not expect ANY DTS from Lucas. And that might cause a problem for Indiana Jones trilogy: who will win there between the two ? This is the real big picture, not the space or this or that. Each has his own company, each has his own prefered format and strong business ties with each (dts, dolby ).
Well...this is all speculation at best. It sounds like DTS was considered, but just like the X-Men DVD they didn't want the other parts of the DVD (ie, video bitrate) to suffer. Heck, I'm a huge proponent of DTS as well (I do hear the difference). But, if the Star Wars DVD sounds anything like the Dolby Digital 5.1 EX on the Japanese Import LD, then DTS is a non-issue for me. The Import LD of Star Wars is the single best 5.1 soundtrack I have ever heard on LD (including all of my DD & DTS DVDs).

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Its a shame there is no DTS on it, but its also a shame that they did not do a direct-to-digital transfer like "A Bug's Life" and "Toy Story". After all, at least 90% of the film exists in ILM's database.
The only originally digital elements of the film were all of the effects shots, naturally. And of course the Pod Race was almost entirely digital. But all principal photography (save for above mentioned scene) was shot using standard Panavision cameras with anamorphic lenses and 35mm Kodak film stock.

During the editing phase, all of the original elements (effects as well as film footage) were run into the computer to create a hi-def digital master. This is where the DVD is coming from. If someone is expecting a 100%digital master, you are technically out of luck because it does not exist. The film was shot almost entirely on film sans the effects shots.

EPISODE II on the other hand will likely be a direct digital transfer because it was/is solely shot using digital cameras.



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I pre-order my copy yesterday.

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I'm with D-Man on the DD/DTS issue. Why mess up a good thing? If the sound of the LD comes thru on DVD, why change a thing? It's the best sounding movie I've heard. I watched the LD so many times, I've showed it to numerous parties, I'm worn out on the film. At this point, I'm not too excited about the DVD release. George Who...?

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Hey Bella !

Yes, the ld sounds awesome ( I won't sell it. selling lds is stupid I think) and certainly ranks in the top 10 ever sounding dvds and lds ( with TITAN AE, SPR DTS and ld AC3, GLADIATOR DTS etc ). But, a dts es discrete from a 24bits master would have been great, if not going to the new 96khz 24bits.
I'll say it again: LUCAS had no intention to do dts: the video quality issue is pure crap! ( for XMEN, I agree: one disc but loaded with supplements and very dark picture, which is tough for the mpeg).
I hope the dvd 5.1 EX is not cooked down for downconverted listenings ( makes me sick so many J6packs still want or have to listen to 5.1 this way ). If it's as good as the ld, fine or should I say, as good as the TOY STORY 2 overture http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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I'm with Rachael, " I watched the LD so many times, I've showed it to numerous parties, I'm worn out on the film. At this point, I'm not too excited about the DVD release. George Who...? "

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