Do "Full Metal Jacket" & "Eyes Wide Shut" have wide screen versions? - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Baselworld is only a few weeks away. Getting the latest news is easy, Click Here for info on how to join the newsletter list. Follow our team for updates featuring event coverage, new product unveilings, watch industry news & more!

Forum Jump: 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 4 Old 09-30-2001, 05:14 PM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
akkoa's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Westland, MI, USA
Posts: 200
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
or just 4:3 Full Screen versions? Thanks.
akkoa is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2 of 4 Old 09-30-2001, 07:11 PM
European's Avatar
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Neuenhof/AG - Switzerland
Posts: 135
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Q: "Do "Full Metal Jacket" & "Eyes Wide Shut" have wide screen versions?"

A: No!

. . .

European is offline  
post #3 of 4 Old 10-01-2001, 12:18 AM
AVS Special Member
Chris Williams's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,311
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
The answer is more complicated than that.

Kubrick shot those films non-anamorphic, full-frame. 1.33 aspect ratio. The action was centered in the middle of the frame to be "safe" for being cropped down to 1.66 or 1.85 aspect ratio. The cropping was done at the theater by the projectionist. Kubrick apparently prefered 1.33 and wanted the DVDs to have the 1.33 version.

The debate is from those people who want the film to look like the saw it in the theater. But that was determined by the theater projectionist. Some framed it higher, some lower. They want a version cropped down to 1.78 or greater and released anamorphic to get higher resolution and fill their 1.78 screens.

Personally, I have no problem with this. I can happily either watch the 1.33 version in the middle of my screen, or crop off the top and bottom and "fill the screen". But doing so, I'd be as big a fool as those people who want their 1.33 screens filled.

If I were doing the authoring of the set, I would have used the subtitle facility to provide top and bottom black bars that people could turn on and off to crop the 1.33 down. Or put a cropped version on one side and full-frame on the other.

Kubrick was not alone in this. Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory was shot in the same way, as was Moonstruck.
Chris Williams is offline  
post #4 of 4 Old 10-02-2001, 07:14 PM
AVS Special Member
Frank J Manrique's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Redlands, Ca. USA
Posts: 4,649
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 11
Chris is right on the money with his explanations, so I'll just add this:

Because "modern" cinema theaters can only project in US widescreen standard (1:85:1) and scope anomorphic (2:40:1) aspect ratios, others such as the "Academy" ratio (a bit more than 1:33:1), 1:66:1, etc., cannot be projected.
When full frame-shot (Super35 or other 35mm spherical formats) movies are shown, a degree of image cropping will occur, although aperture plates are used to hide such things a frame lines and objects like microphones, booms and the like, while correctly (hopefully!) framing the active film image.

I personally don't mind the full frame format AR on video, mostly because it isn't a panned and scanned situation, and so long as the image doesn't suffer considerable dimensional losses, am a happy movie lover!

Frank J Manrique is offline  
Sponsored Links
Closed Thread Movies, Concerts, and Music Discussion

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off