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PooperScooper's Avatar PooperScooper 09:58 AM 07-25-2006
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My only complaint is the cast, they weren't bad actors perse they just didn't seem to be very well developed as "extreme cavers" like I was hoping for, it was more of a sorority party in a cave.

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They weren't all cavers. There were only one or two that were really "extreme" at anything, IIRC, and the others were just somewhat athletic. Remember, the cave they went to was not the cave they thought they were going to - except for the person that devised the ruse. The intended cave would have been a more fit for partying.


larry

Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 01:32 PM 07-25-2006
I got the SE from Amazon Uk for like 8 lbs. shipped which is like $15.00


PooperScooper's Avatar PooperScooper 03:11 PM 07-25-2006
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I got the SE from Amazon Uk for like 8 lbs. shipped which is like $15.00


Me too, it was great deal. The previous 2-disc set was much heavier.

larry
oink's Avatar oink 03:21 PM 07-25-2006
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They weren't all cavers. There were only one or two that were really "extreme" at anything, IIRC, and the others were just somewhat athletic. Remember, the cave they went to was not the cave they thought they were going to.


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That is pretty much how I remember it....except that they had done some caving together in the past, but it was easy stuff...nothing remotely as difficult as this cave.
However, I may have a bit of faulty memory too.

lvisneau's Avatar lvisneau 03:38 PM 07-25-2006
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I got the SE from Amazon Uk for like 8 lbs. shipped which is like $15.00


so did i, we got to watch the movie in my theater before it came out here in theaters. very cool indeed !!!!!!!!
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 06:35 PM 07-30-2006
So did they cut the gore for the US as well as having a "happier" ending? Anyone know the US ending?

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thehun's Avatar thehun 02:05 AM 08-01-2006
According to EW the body count is different, and it uses one of the existing alternative ending that was shot originally along the UK theatrical cut.Only a minute or so was cut.
The DVD is expected to have both ending a-la 28 Days Later.
IrmoGamecoq's Avatar IrmoGamecoq 06:59 AM 08-01-2006
That's relieving news. Thanks for posting, thehun.
PooperScooper's Avatar PooperScooper 07:16 AM 08-01-2006
The fact that they changed anything is so very sad!

larry
IrmoGamecoq's Avatar IrmoGamecoq 12:15 PM 08-01-2006
By "relieving," I was mainly referring to the DVD release.
oink's Avatar oink 01:31 PM 08-01-2006
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The fact that they changed anything is so very sad!


How true!
A classic IMO.
alpha21's Avatar alpha21 01:44 PM 08-01-2006
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According to EW the body count is different, and it uses one of the existing alternative ending that was shot originally along the UK theatrical cut.Only a minute or so was cut.
The DVD is expected to have both ending a-la 28 Days Later.

How can the body cound be different?
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 08:09 PM 08-01-2006
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Somebody else lives? No throwdown at the end between the 2 chicks?

lonwolf615's Avatar lonwolf615 12:13 AM 08-02-2006
Guys, we gotta be extra careful on this one. I'm coming to this thread to decide whether to buy my first export dvd or to see it in the theater. And I would hazard a guess that 99% of us haven't seen this yet, so spoiler tags are really needed on almost everything. Some of us might read them anyways, but it would be nice to have the choice,,I'm not trying to nitpick, but remember this hasn't been available yet to most of the american public.
Okay, is the general feeling that any change would have to be bad, so it would be better to wait for the dvd with the original cut? (Or buy the R2)
thehun's Avatar thehun 12:24 AM 08-02-2006
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How can the body cound be different?

I guess someone's not gonna die?
oink's Avatar oink 12:29 AM 08-02-2006
Lonwolf,

The reason why any change is considered bad is because the film is so perfect!
Those of us that have seen it, want it left as is...it is hard to imagine improving it.

Buy the R2...it has excellent video and audio.
And I have yet to hear anyone regret doing so.
tony123's Avatar tony123 06:14 AM 08-02-2006
Why would this not be listed by Netflix?
PooperScooper's Avatar PooperScooper 07:08 AM 08-02-2006
It's not released in the USA or not Region 1 or 0.

larry
alpha21's Avatar alpha21 11:50 AM 08-02-2006
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I guess someone's not gonna die?


So then what happens to that character?
I will be seeing this in the theater, then try to compare it to the DVD I have. I just don't understand how a characters role can just all of a sudden be cut out in a horror film. That's usually the point of horror films, who lives-who dies and how.

It sounded like in this thread that the reason for the ending change was to not confuse the audience and have it more of a Hollywood ending. Well isn't not knowing what happened to one of the characters even more confusing??
lonwolf615's Avatar lonwolf615 12:41 PM 08-02-2006
Well, I've got 2 players that are supposed to be region free, though I've never tried to find out...and I've visted amazon UK to browse, but mainly for music..don't know why I'm hesitating, maybe because I spend enough change on U.S. releases? If I open up the door to the whole world...
But man, the consensus here sure seems to be this is a classic. And there's so many opinions of folks who I really respect raving about it, its hard to hold off. I mean a lot of you can be pretty balanced reviewing a film: "I really loved this film BUT... I don't remember reading any buts about this one, so its very tempting..
So, how would you guys rate this? Better than WC? As good as 28 Days Later? The last great horror film I saw was Cemetary Man-is it in that class? If one person says it ranks with Holloween I'll be getting out the credit card...
oink's Avatar oink 01:27 PM 08-02-2006
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Well, I've got 2 players that are supposed to be region free, though I've never tried to find out.


Be sure you have a player that will run PAL (the European standard).
Many players do these days.
If you don't, try the new Oppo 970HD for $150...an excellent all around player that should sell for much more.

Better than 28 Days Later.
Haven't seen CM yet.
WC???...sorry, I have brain-lock today...
thehun's Avatar thehun 02:21 PM 08-02-2006
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So then what happens to that character?
I will be seeing this in the theater, then try to compare it to the DVD I have. I just don't understand how a characters role can just all of a sudden be cut out in a horror film. That's usually the point of horror films, who lives-who dies and how.

It sounded like in this thread that the reason for the ending change was to not confuse the audience and have it more of a Hollywood ending. Well isn't not knowing what happened to one of the characters even more confusing??

I don''t know I haven't seen it, but it is an alternative ending, not just a straight cut.
According to EW.
lonwolf615's Avatar lonwolf615 11:06 PM 08-02-2006
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Be sure you have a player that will run PAL (the European standard).
Many players do these days.
If you don't, try the new Oppo 970HD for $150...an excellent all around player that should sell for much more.

Better than 28 Days Later.
Haven't seen CM yet.
WC???...sorry, I have brain-lock today...

Pardon my ignorance, but this is an area I've never explored. I have a player that can be set to PAL, but will that play on any tv? Wouldn't one need a PAL capable display?
WC was Wolf Creek, not a classic horror film but one worth seeing. Mentioned it as a starting point to get an idea just how good most of you think this film is.
PooperScooper's Avatar PooperScooper 05:03 AM 08-03-2006
PAL output is 50Hz. Many digital displays will accept 576i/p, 720p, 1080i all at 50Hz. If your display can't accept 50hz then PAL->NTSC conversion (60Hz output) in the player is the other option.

larry
alpha21's Avatar alpha21 09:10 AM 08-03-2006
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Pardon my ignorance, but this is an area I've never explored. I have a player that can be set to PAL, but will that play on any tv? Wouldn't one need a PAL capable display?
WC was Wolf Creek, not a classic horror film but one worth seeing. Mentioned it as a starting point to get an idea just how good most of you think this film is.

Much Better than WC
Better than 28 Days Later
Hard to compare it to slasher films like Halloween

I don't find very many horror films to be actually scary, more like creapy or intense. But The Descent I found to be actually scary. Not to mention filmed well! I thought the same about Dog Soldiers, but The Descent is way better than that too!!
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 11:32 AM 08-03-2006
It's kinda got an ALIEN vibe...
thehun's Avatar thehun 02:18 PM 08-03-2006
Cool, I'm there![tomorrow]
oink's Avatar oink 02:30 PM 08-03-2006
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I have a player that can be set to PAL, but will that play on any tv? Wouldn't one need a PAL capable display?
WC was Wolf Creek, not a classic horror film but one worth seeing.


As Larry pointed out, if your player will do PAL, you should be able to see it on your display (one way or the other).

Oh, and I thought WC was good too.
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 04:17 PM 08-03-2006
Native PAL is best if signal is accepted by your display. No judder from conversion. My oppo both outputs native PAL and converts. More pic. res, 576 lines vs. 480 when native PAL.


Digital2004's Avatar Digital2004 04:30 PM 08-03-2006
transcoding pal to ntsc is trickier than ntsc to pal.
get yourself a region free player from Europe if needed,lots of goodies in UK dvd market

DESCENT is an excellent action-horror-gore-scare adventure with powerful DTS sound.

i dont get all the ouh ah about getting region 2 dvds. piracy however is criminal (i bought all my dvds!) but frankly, there's too many great dvds worldwide

take HEAT dts reg 2 Japan, many from UK (with higher resolution and often with corrected pitch).

THE DESCENT however will test the projector's contrast and black level capacities. ya need a dark room with measured 2500:1 or more CR...

another great UK horror flick is CREEP. almost continuous, real time feeling. just watched again RED EYE (amazing thriller from Craven with AMAZING sound !!) and this almost real time aspect gives tremendous feeling of that "instantaneity".
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