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I just watched it till my DVD messed up in Chapter 10. At least up until then it was a really interesting movie.
But all I can find is this schizophrenic thread...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...he+weather+man

Doesn't The Weather Man deserve better than that?
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you know i was backing this up and got CRC errors at 30%ish... something wrong with the press?
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I dunno. But it's killing me that I can't finish the damn thing. At the point it quit on me he was about to give his speech at the "living funeral".
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Robert,

Sorry to hear that...my disk works fine.

I thought this was one of the better movies last year.
Do try and get another copy if you can.

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I thought the Weather Man was a great movie. Multiple viewings for sure.

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all I can find is this schizophrenic thread...

If anyone could appreciate a schizophrenic thread I would think it would be you Robert

As I said in the other thread though, I thought it was great! It's a character piece more than anything else, but it manages to be both funny and dramatic. On top of that it is by FAR Gore Verbinski's best film that I've seen, I'm not his biggest fan.
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I thought it was really bad. I rate movies on Netflix so I don't make the mistake of re-renting something I forgot I watched. I rated this movie 1 out of 5 stars, and I don't do that very often (65 out of 1312 movies).
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Weather Man is the most important movie ever made.

















jk, but I did really like it.
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I especially thought Michael Cain had a strong performance.
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I thought it was good, He was a great dad to his kid.
Cage rules in most all he does.
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Weather Man is the most important movie ever made.

Couldn't agree more. In fact, you took the words right out of my mouth.
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Even when I disagree I can usually see where the other party is coming from. With this movie I can't figure out why someone would like it. Gave it 1 star too.

Maybe I need the "goodness" of it explained to me.

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Even when I disagree I can usually see where the other party is coming from. With this movie I can't figure out why someone would like it. Gave it 1 star too.

Maybe I need the "goodness" of it explained to me.

Play it backwards to Dark Side of the Moon. Then you'll understand.
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I had no problems with the DVD but the movie was a dog. Cage was pretty good but when the movie was over all I could say was why was this movie made? Very dull IMO.
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I had no problems with the DVD but the movie was a dog. Cage was pretty good but when the movie was over all I could say was why was this movie made? Very dull IMO.


Hmmmm....maybe everyone else here has fulfilling careers that don't get in the way of family life...

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Hmmmm....maybe everyone else here has fulfilling careers that don't get in the way of family life...

What family life? If I had time to start a family with my work schedule, I'd have a much better chance of leading a disfunctional lifestyle...
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Hmmmm....maybe everyone else here has fulfilling careers that don't get in the way of family life...

We're getting off topic here, but it is very important to me. I do have a career that doesn't interfere with my family. All I had to do was decide to make half the money I otherwise would. In other words, make family my priority.

This whole topic just strikes a nerve with me. "Americans" think we all have to drive $40,000+ vehicles and live in 3000+square feet, and then we bitch about how you just have to have dual incomes these days to make ends meet. It's crazy.

Our children are the ones paying the price. I look at some of these families and feel sad. To me, the parents are saying, "Johnny, I would rather drive you around in this money pit than spend time with you". I bet Johnny doesn't care what his transportation is. He'd prefer a econo box car and having time with his parents!

Alright, mods can delete this if necessary. It belongs in another forum all together, but I feel better having typed it.

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We're getting off topic here, but it is very important to me. I do have a career that doesn't interfere with my family. All I had to do was decide to make half the money I otherwise would. In other words, make family my priority.

This whole topic just strikes a nerve with me. "Americans" think we all have to drive $40,000+ vehicles and live in 3000+square feet, and then we bitch about how you just have to have dual incomes these days to make ends meet. It's crazy.

Our children are the ones paying the price. I look at some of these families and feel sad. To me, the parents are saying, "Johnny, I would rather drive you around in this money pit than spend time with you". I bet Johnny doesn't care what his transportation is. He'd prefer a econo box car and having time with his parents!

Alright, mods can delete this if necessary. It belongs in another forum all together, but I feel better having typed it.

I would hope they wouldn't do that. Because then we might as well just delete life from life.
You just answered the question "what is the value of this movie?". The value of it is found in the fact that it inspired you to not only think about what you did but to also to want to share it with the rest of us.
When Tom Cruise summons his superhuman cleverness to defeat the bad guys in Mission Impossible 3, we will be entertained by that too. And escapism is not a bad thing. But it won't be causing us to think about anything which actually matters in our lives.
And even though it seems to be the opinion of many moviegoers, thinking about what actually matters in our lives is not always boring. Sometimes it can be as entertaining as anything. Especially when it has the ability to give us an occasional belly laugh.
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Okay, you've changed my mind about the movie. Two stars it is!

I agree totally with your thought. Problem is, I didn't connect these two topics while watching the movie. I have connected them as a result of this conversation.

Alright, a strong two stars.

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I once spent the night in jail in Greer, South Carolina, Tony. In the drunk tank.
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I once spent the night in jail in Greer, South Carolina, Tony. In the drunk tank.


That was you?

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I once lived in Fort Walton Beach for awhile, part of the Redneck Riviera! I never visited the prison though.

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It truly be a small world, aint it.

Actually I mispoke. It's been so long and my memory is not what it once was.
Upon further reflection, I wasn't in jail in Greer. I was in the Mecklenberg County Jail (Charlotte) in it's drunk tank. During the night, amidst the chorus of "hey jailer" which I heard all night long, one particular drunk was from Greer and kept shouting to the jail employees how the Greer jailers were a lot tougher. I never quite understood why this individual was so hell bent on challenging "jailers" of any kind, because somehow it never occurred to me to want to do that. Because trust me, the experience was not anything like what I'd seen happen in Sheriff Andy Taylor's jail.
And the drunks were surely not as pleasant as Otis.
Nobody looked like Barney Fife, either. More like some of the cast members from Deliverance.
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Hmmmm....maybe everyone else here has fulfilling careers that don't get in the way of family life...

I didn't think that was the main point of the film, just a small part of it. Then again, as I said there doesn't seem to be a purpose for this movie. FWIW though, I love my job and it leaves me with a nice amount of time to spend with my family. I found it hard to sympathize with Cage's character because even though he tried to be a good father he repeatedly set a bad example. He even referred to his daughter during a phone call as the very nickname that she was given at school. A good father doesn't talk respectfully to his kids but badly about them when they're not around. Oh well this is just my opinion. I thought the movie lacked substance and Cage's character was a loser. In Leaving Las Vegas he played a loser at well but there was a good story behind him.
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My point was that none of us are perfect (although we wish we are).
We make mistakes.

What is "perfect" has a different meaning for each of us.
Our main character thought he was being a good father, husband, son...
However, those around him thought otherwise...and he was clueless on how to do it better.
He tried, but it usually ended up worse.
I thought this mess he found himself in, in fact, was a rich situation for the film-maker to mine.
Which he did, and I think well.

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Even when I disagree I can usually see where the other party is coming from. With this movie I can't figure out why someone would like it. Gave it 1 star too.

I feel the exact same way about this movie. My wife and I found it difficult to make it through the whole thing. I can't come up with one positive thing to say about this movie.
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It's not a feel good movie. It's depressing. But it's honest in it's exploration of things which aren't pleasant. Things which I've seen in spades in life. But don't often see portrayed in movies.
It's welcome bravery on the part of filmmakers when they don't pull punches in showing us our warts. Because that doesn't seem to be conducive to selling tickets.
But I'm just weird enough to eat that up. Masochism I guess.
Or maybe it's just relief in seeing that there are others who are even more f'ed up than I am.
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You said it better than I, Bob.

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You know what's interesting about all that, oink, and why it's ironic that I used Tom Cruise for contrast. It's because I was just watching NBC's Dateline. And at the end of tonight's episode they promoed an upcoming episode. And gave us the impression that it's about Tom Cruise and apparently we aint seen nothing yet. It's supposed to reveal that Tom Cruise is apparently even a lot more looney tunes than we even imagined if that's even possible.
The point being that while Cruise' Mission Impossible persona may have a mind like a steel trap and a life to match, that what we're really seeing is a human being with a mind far more f'ed up than anything portrayed in Weather Man.
So while Mission Impossible may be escaping us from those real life warts, it seems that it's doing it with smoke and mirrors which are hiding warts which are about as big as frisbees.
What I've always wondered about is whether warts hurt less when you got millions of bucks to soothe their pain with. Or whether instead having your warts shown all over television makes them hurt even worse.
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are people really throwing things at the Weather Man?

I liked the movie but it's for sure not for everyone.
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