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I also love doomsday movies, but mine fall in to a slightly different category I think.

Dawn of the Dead (Romero version)
Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa version)

A little different type of doomsday, not man-made, but not natural disaster either.
Day of the Dead too! (more post-apocalyptic :) )

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Scarily prescient....sounds far too much like New Orleans immediately post Katrina. :(
When I was a kid, Soylent Green totally sickened me for weeks...this film, in the 80s, would have ruined my just about all of my teen years. Even now, 39 years old and hardened/jaded by modern cinema, there's things I see in this that are downright awful.

There is/was a lot of parallels w/Katrina and the government...more than I'm certain either of us could be aware.

The difference in Threads is how they act- at least how they plan to act...as in this instance....

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When they realize the entire nation is basically screwed w/regards to food, they decide not to open foodstocks until most of the 'high-dose' survivors die, because feeding them is a waste...they end up rationing food to those that can work, but there's really no way they can make anything grow, between the blackened sky and the lack of fertilizers or powered equipment


The total destruction of the infrastructure is also tough to stomach- particularly hospitals....
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There's a guy that gets an amputation a la US Civil War...and the only thing they can give him is a roll of gauze to bite
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Since I live in the town that was the "star" of the movie, "The Day After" would have to be my favorite. I was in college when it was released and remember all the warnings about how you shouldn't watch it alone because it was so dramatic.

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Another one not yet mentioned was the mini-series adaptation of Stephen King's The Stand.

The opening showing scenes of the dead while BOC's Don't Fear the Reaper plays....


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There is/was a lot of parallels w/Katrina and the government...more than I'm certain either of us could be aware.
I had just gotten back from the sandbox when Katrina hit and ended up spending a little over a month down there as a contractor. We didn't get there until a few weeks after the initial mess....but it was still a surreal experience.

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When they realize the entire nation is basically screwed w/regards to food, they decide not to open foodstocks until most of the 'high-dose' survivors die, because feeding them is a waste...they end up rationing food to those that can work, but there's really no way they can make anything grow, between the blackened sky and the lack of fertilizers or powered equipment


The total destruction of the infrastructure is also tough to stomach- particularly hospitals....
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There's a guy that gets an amputation a la US Civil War...and the only thing they can give him is a roll of gauze to bite

The sad thing is that I could see a similar decision being made in reality...and it would be hard to fault them for making such a choice.
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Funny, I watched 'Threads' for the first time ever on Sunday :)

How did you see it???
I haven't found it on TV in over a decade, and it's not available on DVD
region 1 (USA) that I know of. I have almost all the other "nuclear war"
movies mentioned here, but "Threads" is the one I'd really like to see again.....
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Just thinking about that scene makes my neck hairs stand up ....
.....and I thought I was the only one!

These movies scare me more than anything else, because I've always
believed that this threat would become a reality in my lifetime (and it nearly
did during the Cuban missile crisis!)

Just the sight and thought of those missiles being launched......
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How did you see it???
I haven't found it on TV in over a decade, and it's not available on DVD
region 1 (USA) that I know of. I have almost all the other "nuclear war"
movies mentioned here, but "Threads" is the one I'd really like to see again.....
Amazon.com (US) sells it for a totally retarded price. Amazon.co.uk sells it for a fair price...and even with overseas air shipping, I had it in less than a week. I think it was under $20 US.

Meanwhile, standard US Amazon shipping takes a week, just to leave the warehouse :rolleyes:

Anyway- the region code isn't really the hard thing to work around...you can work around that pretty easily.

It's whether or not you've a DVD player that outputs NTSC with a PAL DVD. My player, a Denon DVD-2900, does this on the fly...no oddities or slowdowns, even does progressive output, but it crops the picture. "Permanent" converting can be done, but that's another issue and, for me at least, it's not worth the lossier picture from the additional decode/encode to get those cropped pixels back.

If you've got a PC, the PAL/NTSC thing isn't an issue, just, uh, fix the region code.
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PS, I second (third?) Testament.

Funny...we, as a nation, seem more fear-drenched now then when we had 1000s of nukes pointed at us, when mutually-assured destruction (MAD) was just a Brezhnev tantrum away...

Sad, that.

But see Testament, and let us know what you think.

One memorable part for me:

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Jane Alexander's oldest daughter has died from radiation, and Jane is ripping apart sheets to wrap the daughter's body in. That first "rip" was so loud on the audio track--and we didn't yet know why Jane was doing it. It still sears, years later.
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Just the sight and thought of those missiles being launched......
Similar impact here.....excuse the awful pun...
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One memorable part for me:

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Jane Alexander's oldest daughter has died from radiation, and Jane is ripping apart sheets to wrap the daughter's body in. That first "rip" was so loud on the audio track--and we didn't yet know why Jane was doing it. It still sears, years later.
Haven't seen it yet, but doesn't she also
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knit a death robe for her infant


I can't stomach that at all- I quietly sobbed through 90% of "Lorenzo's Oil" so I can only guess what that would do to me.

I respect it but I'm not watching it.
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Colossus,

I don't remember the scene you refer to, but it's literally been over a decade since I've seen Testament.

Lorenzo's Oil: a GREAT film that is too easily dismissed as a "cancer-of-the-week" movie.

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I'm a big fan of doomsday movies and I just found some others that I didn't know existed or had heard about and couldn't find. To me, the movie that has no peers in this regard, taking all things into consideration, is

Dr. Strangelove

However, there are more "realistic" movies in this genre and some that are not. Here's a list of the movies I own:

Failsafe (1964)
Failsafe (2000 TV): (Just ordered this R2, never saw it. No expectations, but it was cheap. :) )
Miracle Mile
The Day After: (to me, the "scariest")
Defcon 4: (B movie)
When the Wind Blows: (heard about it a while back, just ordered R2 DVD)
Threads: (1984 UK TV series - just ordered R2 DVD set)
A Boy and his Dog: (not quite a doomsday movie, but still excellent)

By Dawns Early Light: (don't have this but saw it on TV once or twice).


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agree the DAY AFTER (1983) not to be confused with the (absurd) DAY AFTER TOMORROW (2004)

as you realize they actually toned down the ultmate effects of the nukes in that movie - otherwise it woud have too much for the audience to handle, however it was clearly terrifying - especially when at the football game and in the background the ICBMs start flying out toward their intercontinental targets. Now people understanding MAD policy seeing those missles understood the significance, while others at the football game and nearby areas (more typical of most people in real life) just didn't get it

STRANGELOVE is great also

WAR GAMES (1983), (oscar nominated for best original screenplay) also great, however a good outcome for the world - so no doomsday in the end

TERMINATOR 2 - especially the dream sequence when Los Angeles is hit with a nuke and the blast wave hits the playground
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Testament made me cry. I watched it twice (the second time only because my husband hadn't seen it) and I'm glad I did, but probably won't see it again.

When I was living in North Dakota I had nightmares about the nearby missile silo (there were/are quite a few there). It was so close you could see it from my parents bedroom window. Actually, all you could see was the fence around it, the hatch was ground level. But it was creepy.

Going slightly OT- but there are a few books that I think could make good movies (if dated at the time they were written, there is so much more damage that could be done now). But it would have been interesting to see Alas Babylon, Down to a Sunless Sea and Warday made.

Has anyone mentioned Atomic Cafe yet? It's a documentary.

Oh yeah, and there's "Cafe Flesh", the post nuclear war porn. :)
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No love for "Damnation Alley".
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Totally forgot about that one. Killer cockroaches and Jan-Michael Vincent was kind of a hottie.
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I see no "Postman", what gives :) . I think the post apocalyptic is where Costner shines.
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No mention of "On The Beach" 1959. Oldie but great. There is also a 2000 version I have not seen, it is in my queue at NF.

I wonder, does "Mosquito Coast" count? He tricked them into think there was a doomsday. Good movie anyways.
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Dug this up:

The World, the Flesh and the Devil(classic)

Last Night(seems interesting)
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Don't forget Costner's other "epic" Waterworld featuring another take on a global warming apocalypse.

There was a mini series in the early 80's titled World War III that dealt with U.S. & Soviet troops fighting in Alaska. I'm pretty sure it ended with a nuclear strike.

Miracle Mile from the late 80's was about a couple trying to get out of L.A. before a nuclear attack.

Silent Running is another in the "mankind destroyed the environment" genre.

Maximum Overdrive is another man vs the machines film.

The original The Planet of the Apes because you blew it up! Damn you!

Colossus: The Forbin Project is a precursor to WarGames about a computer in charge of nuclear defense becoming sentient...and meeting his Russian counterpart.

From across the big pond, Akira, Fist of The North Star & Nausicaä are all set on a post apocalyptic earth (and Grave of The Fireflies is a must see about the aftermath of the atomic attack on Japan).

V For Vendetta, Equilibrium & The Matrix are all about societies that grew out of a past apocalypse.

Of course there is also Blast From the Past detailing a horrific post apocalyptic landscape...as envisioned by Ward & June Cleaver. ;)

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agree the DAY AFTER (1983) not to be confused with the (absurd) DAY AFTER TOMORROW (2004)
Of course (absurd...agreed) The Day After Tomorrow does fall into the topic as well since it postulates that the instant Ice Age was caused by man via global warming.
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Last Night(seems interesting)
This is an excellent movie. A very unique take on how people might react to the end of the world. Very surreal.

Peter Weir's The Last Wave is also quite good.

Neither are about man-made disasters, if that matters.

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lots of post apocalyptic movies too
The Omega Man 1971
Deep Impact
Armageddon
When Worlds Collide 1951
Mad Max
Things to Come (1936)
Twelve Monkeys
The Last Man on Earth 1964
The Quiet Earth 1985
The Matrix 1999
Wizards (1977)
Waterworld
Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, and Land of the Dead
Titan A.E.
Reign of Fire
Tank Girl
28 Days Later
Planet of the Apes

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Nobody has mentioned The Bedford Incident, a pretty good one with Sidney Poitier and Richard Widmark (and a good supporting cast).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058962/

P.S. the television version of Fail-Safe (done live, possibly once for each coast) is actually fairly good.

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I can't believe I forgot Twelve Monkeys (or it's antecedant, La Jetee). That's what we've planned to watch this weekend.
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Yes, here's another nod for Gilliam's "Twelve Monkeys." I also have a copy of Marker's "La Jetee" on DVD (the old "Short Cinema Journal" discs). I thought Universal should have included "La Jetee" as a bonus feature on their "Twelve Monkeys" DVDs; perhaps they tried, but couldn't get the rights. I was surprised to learn that Gilliam never watched "La Jetee" prior to making "Twelve Monkeys."

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I think you guys are looking at The Day After tomorrow all wrong. I thought it was great!!! You have to look at it as a comedy with really cool special effects though. The over the top in your face environmental messages were absurdly funny as was the thousands of Americans illegally crossing the boarder into Mexico and the president apologizing to the world for ignoring the environment and saying he has "learned his lesson". To end the movie the astronauts in the space station when looking at earth exasperated "Have you ever seen the air so clear!!??" Made me want to go buy a Hummer.....

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I saw some of "The Day After Tomorrow" on one of the movie channels in a hotel while on a business trip. It was truly ridiculous; maybe it would be good for some laughs. I had to wonder if the filmmakers actually believe that humans are dramatically affecting the global climate; I got the impression they might believe it. In that case, "The Day After Tomorrow" fits the "Doomsday movie" mold quite well. But Cold War era nuclear holocaust movies had a greater ability to frighten viewers. I think I might try to find a copy of "The Day After," since I missed it in 1983. It sounds intense, and would be a good reminder of how important was the eventual resolution to the US/USSR standoff. It may also serve as a caution for present day circumstances, as terrorists and their sponsors seek "dirty bombs" and full-fledged nukes.

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I also have a copy of Marker's "La Jetee" on DVD (the old "Short Cinema Journal" discs). I thought Universal should have included "La Jetee" as a bonus feature on their "Twelve Monkeys" DVDs; perhaps they tried, but couldn't get the rights. I was surprised to learn that Gilliam never watched "La Jetee" prior to making "Twelve Monkeys."
I first saw La Jetee in a film class in college. I was going to buy that Short Cinema Journal disc, but I heard that it only has an English soundtrack as Chris Marker insisted that English-speaking audiences should only get English versions of his films. And, in English, you lose things like--
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The title is a pun for 'le j'etais,' or 'I was him.'
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GreySkies, that is a great note about the title of Marker's photoplay; however, the title is still provided in French, so the pun is not lost.

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True. But there are some other verbal plays in the film, but I can't think of them offhand. Maybe I'll put it on before we watch Twelve Monkeys this weekend.

Granted, I haven't seen the English version, and Marker did the translation himself (and like Nabokov, he's probably more fluent in English than most native speakers), so I can't say what he's done with the translation. And as a disclaimer, I've been accused of being a language snob previously when discussing La Jetee.
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Let's see what happens keeping it to man-made or man-induced.
Then, The Day the Earth Stood Still counts.

Klaatu tells the inhabitants of Earth they can either decide to abandon warfare and peacefully join other spacefaring nations – a peace enforced by the robot race to which Gort belongs – or be destroyed as a threat. Few things more terrifying than being invaded by unknown entities who can kick your a$$ up one side and down the other and you can do nothing about it.
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