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Not a movie title you see every day.

So whaddya think? Is this one gonna make us laugh out loud?
The press on it up till now would seem to indicate that. And so would
the tomatometer...
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/borat/

Special added bonus:
"Why the Kazakhstan ruling elite has such a visceral reaction to Borat?"

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It will no doubt be incredibly hilarious.
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I think for anyone that's not a total prude this movie will be pretty freaking hilarious. I'm looking forward to seeing it this weekend.

If you're not familiar with Borat there's a bunch of good clips from Cohen's HBO show on Video.Google.

It's nice!
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I really look forward to seeing this soon. For me, this is the ultimate "movie theater movie" that will be worth seeing in public, because it might barely be funny at home but could be hilarious with audience reactions.

I hope this movie does really well, I hope it offends a lot of stuck up people, and I hope this thread survives (but fear it won't).
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There is one singer called Shakira sorry I laugh because in Kazakhstan this word means vagina. For example, Can I touch your shakira?' or I have seen your wife's shakira, it hangs like the mouth of a tired dog.

In Kazhakstan we have many hobbies: disco dancing, archery, rape and table tennis.


In U.S. and A. they treat horses like we in Kazakhstan treat our women. They feed them two times a day. They have them sleep on straw in a small box. And for entertainment, they make them jump over fences while being whipped.

Kazakhstan is more civilised now. Women can now travel on inside of bus, and homosexuals no longer have to wear blue hat.
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I saw it in September at the Toronto International Film Festival and it does not disappoint. It's easily the funniest movie of the year, and probably one of the top 5 funniest movies I have ever seen.

I've been counting down the days until I could see it again and finally the day is almost here...honestly, if you think you have any interest in seeing this, you are in for a treat... INCREDIBLE movie.

And let me take this moment to help start the oscar campaign - Sacha Baron Cohen for Best Actor!

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I think for anyone that's not a total prude this movie will be pretty freaking hilarious.

Dang. And here I was looking forward to it.

Can anyone recommend something else? Does Jerry Lewis have any new ones coming out?
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Borat is my favorite character on Da Ali G show, but to me the beauty of the whole bit is that the people he's interacting with have no clue they're being put on. So for the movie, is it still composed of scenes with real people interacting with Borat or are there just a bunch of actors "acting" offended/shocked? I'll definitely be seeing it either way, but I don't see how the original premise of the character can continue since a large part of the public is now in on the gag. On second thought, I guess the people Cohen picks on are typically not that informed so maybe the show can go on despite all the exposure from the movie.
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What's the gag? Man-on-the-street stuff? Stand-up? Fish-out-of-water?

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This movie is boring. not.

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This movie is boring. not.

It more like
This movie is boring........ (really long pause)
NOT!


Anyway looks like a really funny movie hope to see it when it comes out in theaters,
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Borat is my favorite character on Da Ali G show, but to me the beauty of the whole bit is that the people he's interacting with have no clue they're being put on. So for the movie, is it still composed of scenes with real people interacting with Borat or are there just a bunch of actors "acting" offended/shocked? I'll definitely be seeing it either way, but I don't see how the original premise of the character can continue since a large part of the public is now in on the gag. On second thought, I guess the people Cohen picks on are typically not that informed so maybe the show can go on despite all the exposure from the movie.

The movie was shot the same way, with people thinking beforehand that he was "legit" and the outcome being very unpredictable. There are already some insane outtakes and cut scenes going around (skits that didn't "go well" according to the studio's tastes anyway). In fact the first director on the film left the project over disagreement over one such scene (that's still in the movie, yee-haw!) that he didn't like. The second director they brought on was more into doing whatever gets him paid, no matter how insane or Johnny Knoxville it got.
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I don't see how the original premise of the character can continue

Trust me, there will be plenty of people tomorrow, people next week, people next year and people in ten years who will still have no clue who Cohen is.
There can be ten sequels to this movie and there will still be plenty of em out there.
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Borat meets David Letterman.
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I can't wait for this. Friends have seen it and said its amazing.
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I never really understood why people found him funny, I just don't see it
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Did anyone see the skit he did at the beginning of last weeks SNL? I never watch SNL anymore, but the wife and I were at the beach sitting up late and flipping channels. It was too funny. The one line that slayed me was something about certain female parts "hanging loose, like wizard's sleeve." This is one that I may have to trudge to the theater to see.

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I never really understood why people found him funny, I just don't see it

Ditto.

I liked this act better, the first time I saw it, when it was performed by the late Andy Kaufman.

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Ditto.

I liked this act better, the first time I saw it, when it was performed by the late Andy Kaufman.

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Speaking as a genuine Kaufman fanboy, there are a great many differences between what Kaufman did and what Cohen does, srw.
But to consider the one obvious thing and what you're alluding to, Cohen never tries to deceive the audience. He always puts the audience in on the joke.
Trying to deceive the audience along with everyone else, however, was Kaufman's stock in trade.
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I'm a little on the fence on Borat. Some of the time it's amazingly funny, but some of the time i just find it too painful. It's the practical joke aspect; some of the time the people he's messing with are nice decent sorts who don't deserve to be dealing with this idiotic, foul- smelling (Cohen says he doesn't wash that suit, EVER) rude obnoxious jerk. Some do of course, and then its great. I think over all I find Ali G funnier because generally there it should be completely obvious that the guy could never be on the level and the real joke is that the people he's interviewing could even accept that such a person exists. I guess the sad part is we all know people like Borat exist.

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Speaking as a genuine Kaufman fanboy, there are a great many differences between what Kaufman did and what Cohen does, srw.
But to consider the one obvious thing and what you're alluding to, Cohen never tries to deceive the audience. He always puts the audience in on the joke.
Trying to deceive the audience along with everyone else, however, was Kaufman's stock in trade.

I thought part of Cohen's MO was to use unsuspecting bystanders as stooges for various movie bits.

OK, maybe I'm wrong.

In that case, I find him as amusing as his true precursor, Yakov Smirnoff.

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I thought part of Cohen's MO was to use unsuspecting bystanders as stooges for various movie bits.

OK, maybe I'm wrong.

In that case, I find him as amusing as his true precursor, Yakov Smirnoff.

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That is his shtick, Scott.
By "audience" I meant me and you. Not them. They're just comedy props.

Kaufman's genius was to throw out all the rules. He made us the props too.
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If you're going to compare Cohen's ability to do this with others who make use of something similiar, that comparison would be to people like Stephen Colbert. Or Samantha Bee.
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That is his shtick, Scott.
By "audience" I meant me and you. Not them. They're just comedy props.

Sorry, I misunderstood you.

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Kaufman's genius was to throw away all the rules. He made us the props too.

Agreed.

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Borat meets David Letterman.

The funniest part of that clip was when he was dancing to Beck.
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Borat was on the Howard Stern show and I never heard of him before. With that appearance, I have to see the movie now!

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Borat could end up a classic (like Austin Powers).

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The one line that slayed me was something about certain female parts "hanging loose, like wizard's sleeve."

Or, "her vagina hangs loose like the lips of a tired dog".

My favorite line of his was "my mother never loved me -- she tell me 'I wish I was raped by a different man'".

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I think this looks to be one of the funniest movies in a LONG time.
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