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Watching all 20 films in order. One a day. Watched Dr. No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger so far this week. All I can say is I'm simply floored by the print/transfer quality. And the 5.1 DTS sound is superb (for 1960's films). Not to mention the truckload of extras and commentaries. Each film is a 2-disc set. Incredible package. My highest recommendation for Bond fans. Costco had the best prices (approx $10.00 a film).

(yes I know I'll have to re-buy all of these on Blu-ray - but for right now I'm one happy camper)
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Do you mean they sell them seperately ? or they sell them as Volumes of 5 movies for 50$ ?

My brother got the Volume with Dr No and sent it to me (just Dr No) and I was also blown away by the PQ , it is literally awesome for such an old movie, it seemed as if it was shot this year .
On the other hand , the sound is good for 1960s movie as you mentioned but I think that DTS and DD tracks are the same , do you "hear" a big difference ?
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Costco has a sale on these starting the 18th.
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I received vol. 1 & 2 from my mother as an early Christmas present, these are extremely beautifull sets and worth every cent!

I plan to get vol. 3 & 4 early next year.

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I have to agree. These sets look phenomenal. I have no complaints about rebuying all 20 of these movies; I gladly sold away my previous DVD collection.

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Costco has a sale on these starting the 18th.

YES I just heard about Costco's upcoming sale. Price will work out to be less than $8.00 a film ....which is simply amazing.

You must buy the films in 5 disc sets. For some reason they didn't issue them in order. But you can re-file just the DVD's (out of the box) in release order if you like.

The DTS and Doby Digital tracks sounded pretty much the the same - but given the choice I alway choose DTS. Very nice surround activity on the early 60's films.
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For some reason they didn't issue them in order.

'Cause most people would buy the Connery films (and maybe On Her Majesty's Secret Service) and then stop?

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For some reason they didn't issue them in order.

'Cause most people would buy the Connery films (and maybe On Her Majesty's Secret Service) and then stop?

Count me among those "most people."
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I keep waiting for the final set and there's no such thing.
Again, what's in store for 2007 - BD/HD set?

I buy SD DVDs as we speak, but I'm always squemish on the Bond set.

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Watching all 20 films in order. One a day. Watched Dr. No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger so far this week. All I can say is I'm simply floored by the print/transfer quality. And the 5.1 DTS sound is superb (for 1960's films). Not to mention the truckload of extras and commentaries. Each film is a 2-disc set. Incredible package. My highest recommendation for Bond fans. Costco had the best prices (approx $10.00 a film).

(yes I know I'll have to re-buy all of these on Blu-ray - but for right now I'm one happy camper)

Picked up all 4 at CC last week for $184.76 including tax. $9.23 per, couldn't pass it up and got the entire 3 seasons of Lost in Space (one of my guilty pleasures) for $98.51 Shipped.... I think about 65 episodes so that's like $1.50 each....

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I sent my wife to Costco this morning to check out the sale. They were apparently going for something like $43 a set. They were going fast. She was able to get me Sets 2, 3, and 4. Set 1 was already sold out by 11:30 am.
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Watched the first 7 Bond films in order (one-a-day) over the last week. All were EXTREMELY impressive re: audio/video. If I continue to watch one-a-day - I will finish w/ the 20th on Dec 31! Perfect way to finish out the year.
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I only have box #3 but I agree this is gem. DVD done right. However since Sony took over MGM a BD version will bound to appear next Christmas with the Casino Royale HV release.
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Oh yeah they fixed Goldeneyes's terrible "one note" bass too.

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I only have box #3 but I agree this is gem. DVD done right. However since Sony took over MGM a BD version will bound to appear next Christmas with the Casino Royale HV release.
I'll buy them then.

Yep. I agree. No doubt these will probably appear on Blu-Ray next year - but who knows if they will include all the extras (including commentaries). Or what the price will be (definitely higher). The quality of these is so high - and they look so good (upscaled) - that the Blu-ray image may only be a moderate improvement (depending on your equipment). And I'm enjoying these right now - today! And tomorrow. (I may not be around next year to watch them in HD - you never know)
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Yep. I agree. No doubt these will probably appear on Blu-Ray next year - but who knows if they will include all the extras (including commentaries). Or what the price will be (definitely higher). The quality of these is so high - and they look so good (upscaled) - that the Blu-ray image may only be a moderate improvement (depending on your equipment). And I'm enjoying these right now - today! And tomorrow. (I may not be around next year to watch them in HD - you never know)

More then twice the resolution, is more then moderate to me.Upconversion is only useful if it matches the native resolution of the display, but in any case is no substitute for true resolution, I currently use a Sammy DLP 1080p, and while DVD does look great through my Oppo[when done right like this set]it can't rival with true HDTV signals, and I expect BD to be even better, since there won't be any bandwith related artifacts. Extras are no concern for me.

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They only had volumes 3 & 4 at the clairmont rd & 85 location here in Atlanta. They were in custom kiosks, back in a row with other stuff, far away from the dvd aisle.

They had no kiosks for any other volumes, so if they were in the store, god knows where they are.

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Watching one Bond film a day in order - I'm now up to The Living Daylights. So far only complaint is excessive EE on Moonraker. Don't know how that slipped past quality control. Had to reduce sharpness all the way down for this one title. Also layer break on Moonraker appears right at the chapter change - so even on my Denon 2900 it was pretty noticeable.
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Anyone want to sell me the Connery films only?
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Anyone want to sell me the Connery films only?

Hahaha

That's why they sell 5 mixed movies per volume
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Just read that these titles will be available seperately on Feb 6th. But w/o 2nd disc of extras. Price on Amazon is 11.19 a film (movie only - no extras). However Costco was selling these sets before Christmas at a price that comes out to less than $7.50 per film (w/2 discs per film).
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Yeah but whan you forced to buy the ones you don't want that saving is quickly out the door.

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Just read that these titles will be available seperately on Feb 6th. But w/o 2nd disc of extras. Price on Amazon is 11.19 a film (movie only - no extras). However Costco was selling these sets before Christmas at a price that comes out to less than $7.50 per film (w/2 discs per film).

Where are you getting this information on the Costco price? I bought mine at Costco and the price was $53 with a $10 at register discount. At $43 per box that is $8.60 per disk.
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Hahaha

That's why they sell 5 mixed movies per volume

Not in the UK...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...6thehomeofj-21

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Not in the UK...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...6thehomeofj-21

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More then twice the resolution, is more then moderate to me.Upconversion is only useful if it matches the native resolution of the display, but in any case is no substitute for true resolution, I currently use a Sammy DLP 1080p, and while DVD does look great through my Oppo[when done right like this set]it can't rival with true HDTV signals, and I expect BD to be even better, since there won't be any bandwith related artifacts. Extras are no concern for me.

Take a vintage movie like Grand Prix.....compare the upconverted DVD version to the HD version...they are largely indistinguishable except for a certain crispness with the HD image that the DVD version lacks. If you own the DVD version, moving up to the HD version would be for bragging rights only.

I expect a similar situation with the BOND films, and most films from that time period....moving up in resolution doesn't matter unless the movie was shot with lenses, with a long depth of field. Otherwise the payoff is miniscule, and I'm watching on a 110" screen.

While the BD versions will be "Better", I dont know that upgrading will necessarily be worth it.

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Take a vintage movie like Grand Prix.....compare the upconverted DVD version to the HD version...they are largely indistinguishable except for a certain crispness with the HD image that the DVD version lacks.

That's not a fault of the original film, it's a fault of the HD transfer. Film (yes, even if it was shot 40 years ago), has a lot higher resolution than either DVD or the new HD media formats. A proper HD transfer will handily beat what you you can get from even the best DVD transfer.

On the other hand, unless people have true 1920 x 1080 displays they're not seeing as much difference as they did when they jumped from VHS tapes to DVD, so not everyone is getting excited about it...
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That's not a fault of the original film, it's a fault of the HD transfer. Film (yes, even if it was shot 40 years ago), has a lot higher resolution than either DVD or the new HD media formats. A proper HD transfer will handily beat what you you can get from even the best DVD transfer.

On the other hand, unless people have true 1920 x 1080 displays they're not seeing as much difference as they did when they jumped from VHS tapes to DVD, so not everyone is getting excited about it...

With Respect, no film I have ever seen in real life in a theatre has ever displayed a 3D or ultra-sharp quality so that I could see every detail, every nook and cranny. IF anything, of all the theatres I've been to throughout my life, I consider seeing a film in the theatre to be a sub-standard presentation even compared to DVD in some instances. While people can go on and on about film having a theorteical 4000xXXXX optimum digitized resolution, frankly, until I see some end results that wow me like no other, I consider the matter to be "highly subjective".

I've seen Star Wars: A New Hope in HD...and I've seen the DVD Upscaled. The two images were surprisingly close at 720p.

Seeing the same on my 1080p set, again...a slight increase in sharpness.

Also, I do not consider solid screen grabs to actually be indicitive of a better overall experience. I watch films in motion, so if all that added detail does not transfer itself to a moving image all that well, then what good is it being there.

Of course a HD source should surpass DVD. But simple resolution numbers alone dont mean alot unless the actual frames of film benefit. If the picture doesn't get any clearer because the shot itself is out of focus in the distance, then what good is the added resolution?

Watching Grand Prix in DVD made me think I was watching a film. Watching Grand Prix in HD made me think I was watching HD...but in certain shots, not all of them. up close detail shots looked only slightly better in HD...the longer shots benefited more where text was readable and things that were soft on the DVD transfer were sharper on the HD transfer.

However, had I not had both to compare, I wouldn't be missing much if I only had the DVD version.

I'll go one further.....the leap to the HD version wasn't VHS to DVD, not by a long shot....it was more like an incremental step...at 720p or at 1080p, the differences so far to my eyes are not night and day.

However, given a choice, I prefer the HD versions of course....

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Take a vintage movie like Grand Prix.....compare the upconverted DVD version to the HD version...they are largely indistinguishable except for a certain crispness with the HD image that the DVD version lacks. If you own the DVD version, moving up to the HD version would be for bragging rights only.

I expect a similar situation with the BOND films, and most films from that time period....moving up in resolution doesn't matter unless the movie was shot with lenses, with a long depth of field. Otherwise the payoff is miniscule, and I'm watching on a 110" screen.

While the BD versions will be "Better", I dont know that upgrading will necessarily be worth it.

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With Respect, no film I have ever seen in real life in a theatre has ever displayed a 3D or ultra-sharp quality so that I could see every detail, every nook and cranny. IF anything, of all the theatres I've been to throughout my life, I consider seeing a film in the theatre to be a sub-standard presentation even compared to DVD in some instances. While people can go on and on about film having a theorteical 4000xXXXX optimum digitized resolution, frankly, until I see some end results that wow me like no other, I consider the matter to be "highly subjective".


You confuse theatrical prints with the real deal.The original negatives are superrior to what you see on theaters.

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