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post #541 of 545 Old 04-26-2007, 08:48 PM
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cyberbri,
I have put no words in your mouth . I have challenged your statements however.

I'm afraid your still somewhat confused !
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post #542 of 545 Old 04-26-2007, 09:49 PM
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cyberbri,
I have put no words in your mouth . I have challenged your statements however.

I'm afraid your still somewhat confused !



I'm confused?

Re-read this post, including what I was replying to:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post10400157

and you will see how you misquoted me here and made it look like my response to one point (fake news) was to a separate point altogether.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&#post10401259




If you still don't understand how you mis-characterized my statements, well then...
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post #543 of 545 Old 04-27-2007, 06:32 AM
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Yes cyberbri, I think your still confused...

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...But I do see how it could be taken as "bad government," but nowhere near the "evil" government shown in V for Ven, Equilibrium, etc....

Your words.

I simply point out that the British government in CoM is practicing ethnic cleansing. This is in addition to colossus' reply and suggestion the the government may be more than "bad", in fact "evil" which you respond to.

By referencing bad vs. evil and comparing it to your measure of evil in the movie V, I think you opened the door for interpretation of your words and the definition of bad and evil.

IMO the term "ethnic cleansing" is somewhat Orwellian in nature and is exactly what the British government is practicing in CoM. Ethnic cleansing has to be one of the most heinous crimes practiced against humanity and therefore puts the British government in the evil category in CoM.

In any event, CoM is still a simple chase move, it's not that deep, and the premiss is weak. I wanted to like it, it had a few moments, it's ok for a rental, but it's a forgettable movie.
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#1 already happens in the US (gov feeding news to the news, lying to the public). The government being against an underground organization it calls terrorists isn't new by any means. The government was wrong, desperate even, but I personally didn't take from it a message of "evil government." They were trying their best to protect the country. But I do see how it could be taken as "bad government," but nowhere near the "evil" government shown in V for Ven, Equilibrium, etc.

You're skating over the main point- cameras everywhere. What good can come from comprehensive totalitarian surveillance? What safeguards will ensure nothing adverse will come from such intelligence?

The rest is ancillary and obviously parallels the US right now- your point, and I agree completely.

An aside- just because spoon-feeding news channels is happening right now doesn't mean the US is not a bad government.
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