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Art i disagree: that teaser gave me a chilling avid sense of seeing this new version
guys building the ship, the music. i like it !
i never liked the first tv serie, those guys in pyjamas
STAR TREK INSURRECTION and WRATH OF KHAN are the best though imho

The teaser definately implies reboot- The Enterprise under construction- incidentally correct as canon had it built planetside and moved into space.

Plus that sequence is very much like current ship construction- maybe a bit less modular than reality
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If I am remembering correctly. NCC-1701 Enterprise was built ABOVE San Francisco. They explained it as you would expect. Sections were built on earth and air-lifted into spacedock for assembly. Thought to be lucky as it had a rather particular Vulcan Foreman in-charge of final assembly.

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The original Enterprise blueprints mentioned 'San Francisco Yards', didn't they? I don't have mine anymore but I think they said this.
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The original Enterprise blueprints mentioned 'San Francisco Yards', didn't they? I don't have mine anymore but I think they said this.

Yes they did, but that could mean built at SF, but assembled in spacedock.

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Variety

'Star Trek' pushed back to 2009

Paramount shuffles major releases

By PAMELA MCCLINTOCK
Paramount is pushing back the release of "Star Trek" from Dec. 25 to May 8, 2009.
Par also is moving DreamWorks' Ben Stiller summer comedy "Tropic Thunder" from July 11 to Aug. 15.

Move was part of a major reshuffling to the studio's release calendar, as well as DreamWorks' release calendar.

Studio insiders said "Star Trek" has the potential to gross more in May than in December.

All the majors are likely to revisit their 2008 and 2009 release skeds in the wake of the writer's strike now being over. There's an abundance of films slated for release this year, and particularly comedies. It's likely that Par won't be the only studio pushing back films to 2009.

"Star Trek" has no competition in its new slot--at least not so far. One week earlier, 20th Century Fox bows "X-Men Origins: Wolverine."

Paramount also announced that Martin Scorsese's Leonardo DiCaprio-starrer "Shutter Island" will be released Oct. 2, 2008.

Read the full article at:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980912.html

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I was looking foward to this movie. Hopfully it won't be pushed back anymore
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I loved Firefly, BUT to be fair, it ignored gravity issues. Most evident when the ship lost all power, even the ability to maintain temperature and air. Yet, still had gravity!! I assume they ignored the issue because weightlessness is something hard to do and impossible to do 'fast'.

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Or, maybe the ship contains a really big magnet - and all those characters simply had lead in their a**es....


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Call it a retcon if you wish, but the issue of Sound in Space has been addressed. In the Star Trek universe, ships computers simulate sound effects for the good of the crew. It's come up in a number of the books.
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Call it a retcon if you wish, but the issue of Sound in Space has been addressed. In the Star Trek universe, ships computers simulate sound effects for the good of the crew. It's come up in a number of the books.

The sound of the ship has never been an issue for me - I just consider it artistic license that's no worse than showing streaming stars with no red- or blue-shifts. But "computers simulating sounds for the good of the crew"??? That's pretty lame, isn't it? If you pushed me for an explanation I'd come up with something like: It's the sound of the disturbance made in subspace by a travelling warp field.
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If you pushed me for an explanation I'd come up with something like: It's the sound of the disturbance made in subspace by a travelling warp field.

There are two problems that have to be addressed (heck, there are probably 100, but at least two.) The first is the one we've been talking about - that sound doesn't travel in space. But even if you make up something to get around that (the deflector shields generate a field sound can travel in) you've got the timing issue. Sound is slow, yet we heard and see the space battle at the same time. Having the computer generate the sounds on the bridge takes care of both problems.

But while we are retconning, I guess we could figure that sound moves at the speed of light through subspace.
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BTW - lamest retcon ever:

The Kessel Run was an 18-parsec route used by smugglers to move glitterstim spice from Kessel to an area south of the Si'Klaata Cluster without getting caught by the Imperial ships that were guarding the movement of spice from Kessel's mines. Worlds along the Kessel Run included Fwillsving, Randa, Rion, and possibly Zerm.

It took travelers in real space around The Maw leading them to an uninhabitable—but far easier to navigate—area of space called The Pit, which was an asteroid cluster encased in a nebula arm making sensors as well as pilots go virtually blind. Thus there was a high chance that pilots, weary from the long flight through real space, would crash into an asteroid.

Han Solo claimed that his Millennium Falcon "made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs." The parsec is a unit of distance, not time. Solo was not referring directly to his ship's speed when he made this claim. Instead, he was referring to the shorter route he was able to travel by skirting the nearby Maw black hole cluster, thus making the run in under the standard distance
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Yes they did, but that could mean built at SF, but assembled in spacedock.

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Made in the USA doesn't mean what it used to.

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I am not trying to derail but do you guys dissect all movies this way? I mean these are fiction. I tend to not sweat the small details like this cause it would take away from my enjoyment of the movie.
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I am not trying to derail but do you guys dissect all movies this way? I mean these are fiction. I tend to not sweat the small details like this cause it would take away from my enjoyment of the movie.

This forum is for people that take movies WAY TOO seriously.....because we have nothing else better to do with our pathetic lives.

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Especially in the Star Trek 23rd century where it's one world, one planet. There is no USA.

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Especially in the Star Trek 23rd century where it's one world, one planet. There is no USA.

I don't know about anyone else, but the 23rd century can't get here soon enough for me....

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I don't know about anyone else, but the 23rd century can't get here soon enough for me....

Well I doubt that you have a Thornian parked in your driveway, so I guess your only alternative is to build castles in the air.
USA is still a reality. Deal with it.
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Well I doubt that you have a Thornian parked in your driveway, so I guess your only alternative is to build castles in the air.

I tried to read that article on Thornian time machines, Larry, but my brain exploded. After piecing it back together (it's amazing what you can do with SuperGlue), I was able to come to a couple of conculsions...

One, a Thorian time machine which in essence creates CTC's (for Closed Timelike Curves or their more popular varient, "wormholes") must have been the intellectual foundation of Michael Crichton's "Timeline" as opposed to Wellsian time machines of the type featured in the classic H.G. Wells novel. Just to keep this post remotely on topic for this forum, I will say that it's hard to understand how such a fun and fascinating book like "Timeline" (I read it twice) could have produced such a deadly dull film adaptation. But, no matter. The truth is that "poor oink", like the rest of us, is likely stuck here in this particular timestream for the foreseeable future. (Unless we manage to make it the LOST Island, in which case all bets are off.)

The second conclusion is that, sadly, the only working time machines we're ever likely to have are the ones we've already got: deep space telescopes that can in essence see back billions of years into the ancient interstellar past. Or, thousands if you're a creationist, I suppose. Which is a shame, because I'd love to see me some dinosaurs in their native habitat that aren't created by Industrial Light & Magic.
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Well I doubt that you have a Thornian parked in your driveway, so I guess your only alternative is to build castles in the air.
USA is still a reality. Deal with it.
Poor you.

Sorry....not having a bit of wit must be tough.

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Sorry....not having a bit of wit must be tough.

Your humor fortunately (or unfortunately) eluded my ulnar nerve. My loss.

Now this one... this one cracked "it" dead on this is funny

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the only working time machines we're ever likely to have are the ones we've already got: deep space telescopes that can in essence see back billions of years into the ancient interstellar past. Or, thousands if you're a creationist, I suppose.


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Your humor fortunately (or unfortunately) eluded my ulnar nerve. My loss.

Now this one... this one cracked "it" dead on this is funny

Ahhh....an anatomist.
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Yow! Instant Wallpaper!
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That's going to take a little getting used to.

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That's going to take a little getting used to.

Yep, give me about 2 minutes . . .

Okay, I'm used to it. And just like jdrumm, it's now my wallpaper!

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Yep, give me about 2 minutes . . .

Okay, I'm used to it. And just like jdrumm, it's now my wallpaper!

Okay... used to it. I think this is an indication that nothing from anything previously Trek is sacred. Which is a good thing.

I can't make this my wallpaper until I get home.

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So is that the same design as used in the Enterprise TV series?

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Beautiful image, it's now my desktop background too.

But it's not from the J.J. Abrams movie.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36676

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it's fan-art(made by a pro though). Not the actual movie design. The guy who made it has worked on Star trek projects in the past though. The actual pic is at least 2 years old.
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Okay, so it's not real, it's still cool enough to stay on my desktop for now. Maybe a real one will come along soon, but the movie is still a year away (exactly!) so it could be a while.

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