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I am also having problems with ch16. It seems to come and go with wide fluctuations in signal strenght every few seconds. It does not make a lot of sense. they must be having some hardware problems. Where is the transmitter site?.

I was not able to pick up ch59 at all.

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Sandy,

Here's a map to WPBF's transmitter:

http://100kwatts.tmi.net/cgi-bin/tvt...80-23-42&rad=0

Coordinates are 27° 7' 17" N 80° 23' 42" W

I am also having problems with their signal. Relocating my antenna about 6 inches lower and 18 inches further North has helped tremendously.

WPBF's signal should improve once they go full power to 1000 kw. They are currently operating with a Special Temporary Authority at 670 kw. The FCC granted their STA on April 22, 2002.

On March 26, 2002, they were granted a 6 month extension beyond May 1 to go to full power.

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Satpro, who lives in Melbourne and is on this thread, has reported interference to WPBF-DT from an NTSC translator there that's on channel 16. It repeats the analog signal from WESH-TV in Orlando. Bothe WESH and WPBF are owned by Hearst/Argyle and they may be turning off that translator eventually. Cliff Thomas, the C. E. at WPBF will let us know what the plan is. I don't know if this could be the cause of your problems, but who knows? I haven't had any problems at all here in east-central Palm Beach County, even though I could occasionally just barely receive the translator from here before WPBF-DT signed on.

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thanks Hardrock. No wonder I was having problems. My directional antenna was aimed at the Miami antenna farm. Ch 16 is NNW in the completely oposite direction. I think I will stick with ch9.
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Sandy,

I should have left well enough alone myself and stuck with WPLG; but, I want to have a back-up for ABC when WPBF starts passing HD - reportedly within the next 4 to 6 weeks.

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A Harris engineer has been here testing our DTV transmitter since Wednesday and has had to make some tweaks and adjustments. The primary exciter in the transmitter failed, but the backup unit works.

We've run into a couple of problems that will push back our on-air testing, such as tower loading issues which might require some structural modifications.

Also, we have not yet received our new digital studio-to-transmitter microwave equipment nor our Tandberg ATSC encoder. So, don't look for us on-air this month. (Sure wish I had better news. )

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David, we can wait. I have been waiting for at least 15 years - since I saw High Definition at the Smithsonian in Washington DC.

Hang in there and best of luck.
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Thanks...I've been waiting, too, since first seeing HDTV in 1985 myself!

Our Andrew DTV antenna is at the site sitting on the ground until Andrew and Stainless, the tower builder, can come to terms on whether our tower will support the DTV antenna and heliax feedline without structural modifications to the tower. If modifications are necessary there could be delays measurable in months. If not, then we could get on the air as soon as we take delivery on and install and test the ATSC encoder, microwave STL and replacement primary exciter and other ancillary gear that we need to get a signal on the air.

As you can imagine, this stuff is not mass-produced...it's hand-built and suppliers are back-ordered due to the fact that so many broadcasters waited to order equipment rather late. Most of our stuff was bought and paid for a year ago and we're still waiting for some of it.

We'll get there, guys..."Please Stand By."

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Hi All.

Is it just me, or, are WPBF-DT's sound and color levels way high?
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Hi all,
Does anyone know when the local station for NBC will start digital transmitting, Ours WTVJ is not in the horizon ....

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According to an exhibit filed with the FCC by WPTV-DT Channel 55, they expect to be broadcasting before September 30. On March 27, 2002, they were granted an extension to November 1.

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/f...hibit_id=60848

Per Paul Russell, Director of Operations & Engineering for WTVJ-DT, they expect to begin broadcasting before WPTV-DT.

Phone: (954) 622-6000

Technical Operations techops@nbc6.net



I'll be satisfied with one NBC station within the next four (4) months; and, it would appear that WTVJ-DT is a safer bet.

I think we all need to contact Diane Zipursky, Vice President, Washington Law and Policy at NBC. She represents WTVJ-DT on behalf of NBC Stations Management, Inc.

Phone: (202) 637-4535
Fax: (202) 637-4530

DIANE.ZIPURSKY@NBC.COM

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/r...ent=6512565497

As it stands right now, we can look forward to 11 hours of primetime programming plus 5 hours of Jay Leno each week:

Primetime Schedule:

Mondays
10:00 - Crossing Jordan - 1 hour

Tuesdays
8:00 - In-Laws - Half hour
9:00 - Frasier - Half hour
9:30 - Hidden Hills - Half hour

Wednesdays
9:00 - The West Wing - 1 hour
10:00 - Law & Order - 1 hour

Thursdays
8:00 - Friends - Half hour
9:00 - Will & Grace - Half hour
9:30 - Good Morning Miami - Half hour
10:00 - ER - 1 hour

Fridays
10:00 - Law & Order: SVU - 1 hour

Sundays
8:00 - American Dreams - 1 hour
9:00 - Law & Order: CI - 1 hour
10:00 - Boomtown - 1 hour

Total - 11 hours

New Shows:










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FCC report and order adopted April 17, 2002 regarding WHDT-DT and WPTV-DT:

http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Da...A-02-893A1.pdf

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Originally posted by james_h
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Is it just me, or, are WPBF-DT's sound and color levels way high?

WBPF's color levels look just fine in Delray Beach. However, I agree that the sound levels are much higher than other stations. In general, when viewing the same network programming, WPLG in Miami looks slightly better than WPBF. WPBF looks like they have the constrast slightly low and the brightness slightly high.

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Is WPTV testing yet, or was this just a promised schedule?
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Hi all.

Titantv now shows WPEC-DT as coming online July 15th (Was June 15th).

Any news on when WPBF will begin passing HD? (I'm eager to see a 1080i broadcast!)

Also, anyone else watching WHDT's programming (limited as it is?)
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I don't know where Titan TV gets their information...I work at WPEC and I have no clue exactly when we'll be on the air!

I can tell you that we're busy instaling a new diversity digital STL microwave link that will carry our NTSC and ATSC service to the transmitter site. But our tower will likely need reinforcement before we can install the DTV antenna. We're just hoping for sometime this summer.

WPBF-DT was to start HD and Dobly Digital 5.1 passthrough from ABC sometime this month.

I'd be interested in your assesment of WHDT's programming since we can't receive it down here. I still stake-out Gunther's roof in West Palm Beach for any sign of activity but still nothing.

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"HOPEFULLY" this summer??? This info blows
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Yes, it does. We are not happy campers about this, either.

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Originally posted by David McRoy

I'd be interested in your assesment of WHDT's programming since we can't receive it down here. I still stake-out Gunther's roof in West Palm Beach for any sign of activity but still nothing.

Thanks for the info David -

As far as WHDT's programming; they are obviously still just in testing mode. They have a few episodes of a few shows that they repeat. In place of commercials, they show what I call video postcards (similar to the sign-off video CBS' "Sunday Morning" show does, pretty visual shots of serene scenes) of areas around the Treasure Coast.

Their broadcast schedule (all from their test antenna in Stuart) isn't fixed. Sometimes they broadcast just a test pattern, and sometimes they cycle through their limited shows.

To date, I've seen the following shows :

Sports interview show - Interviewing Curt Gowdy
Eyeglass infomercial - Edward Beiner (sp?) eyeglass specialist
Interview with a dentist who turned sculpter
A PBS-like documentary on "The Nina" a working reproduction of Columbus' ship

In a WHDT commercial, I saw hints of an interview with Al Hague - and a couple of others - so I expect more material has been produced - they're just not airing it yet.

The shows look great, and I'm looking forward the day they move to WPB and start regular programming.

It's great to see what my tv is capable of, but, I really look forward to your station coming on-line!
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Hi all.

I got all excited yesterday. WPBF seems to be stretching their SD stuff to 16:9 now. I thought that might be a precursor to showing some 1080i stuff, but, no luck last night.
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I was happy to see my screen was full of WPBF as well. This has to be a good sign. I still have problems with that station during the day but at night the signal strength is strong. Living practically under their transmitting tower I don't know why I have the that problem! I'm trying to bring in channel 59-1 with no success. I have my UHF antenna aimed toward Port Salerno and it is elevated about 30' in the air. Is their signal so weak it won't even reach Palm City ?
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Anybody who has the remapping issue with WFLX since the last update find a resolution yet? I havent! Drives me crazy even though theres not much on Fox that i wanna see..
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I have the MitsHD5 and I used to have the same problem. Now I go to 28-1 and it stays there, doesn't go to 29-1. I don't know why. Anyone else have this happen ?
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Yes. My Mitsubishi HD5 HDTV tuner now stays on channel 28-1. I thought it was due to the fact that I added the SAT-C (3rd LNB) to the dish though. On your HD5 you may need to reload the "Advanced Program Guide". Do that by pressing the "Action" button - wait 3 seconds - press the power button. I don't think that FOX has any 1080I broadcasts but what I have seen has been better than analog.

The West Palm Beach Bush Basher newspaper has a feature about HDTV in Sunday's business section. Angelo's picture and everything.

Cheers to WPBF and WFLX for getting it done on time.
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Which paper is that? I'd like to go buy it...
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Ive got the Toshiba DST3000 (same as HD5) but i still have the remapping prob. I'll try again with the program guide but i dont think so..
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I have the MitsHD5 and I used to have the same problem. Now I go to 28-1 and it stays there, doesn't go to 29-1. I don't know why. Anyone else have this happen ?


No earlier than two days ago, My HD5 instantly retuned 28-1 to 29-1. Checking today after perusing this thread revealed that that is no longer the case.

There is now a digital picture on both channels when tuned either manually or via the channel/page button. This is the same as what occurs with other local digital channels.

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Here's the article by By Susan Port, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer - Sunday, June 9, 2002

High-definition TV coming -- eventually

The public might be slow to accept it, but local television stations are nonetheless keeping pace with a technological revolution.

One by one, the stations are beginning to offer high-definition broadcasts through a digital signal, leaving behind the mainstay analog signal that has served TV stations since 1939.

WFLX-Channel 29, a Fox affiliate, and WPBF-Channel 25, an ABC affiliate, spent millions on new equipment to meet a May 1 digital-broadcast deadline set by the Federal Communications Commission. (Public broadcasting stations such as WXEL-Channel 42 in Boynton Beach were given an extra year.)

The deadline was missed by WPEC-Channel 12, a CBS affiliate; WPTV-Channel 5, an NBC affiliate; WTVX-Channel 33, a UPN affiliate; and WPXP-Channel 67, an affiliate of West Palm Beach-based Paxson Communications Corp.

All four said they plan to transmit digital signals and some high-definition programming by the end of the year.

But most people won't be able to tell.

Viewers only will be able to pick up high-definition programming with an outside antenna and an HDTV set with a tuner. Viewers could pick up the digital signal on their standard analog sets if they have a tuner, or a converter that sells for $400, but they won't get high-definition quality unless they have a wide-screen HDTV set.

Adelphia Communications Corp., the dominant cable TV company in the area, doesn't plan to pick up the digital signal until enough of their subscribers have an HDTV set. Meanwhile, local television stations say TV manufacturers should only make sets that can pick up a digital signal to speed up the transition.

Congress is trying to push the transition because TV broadcasters are taking up valuable spectrum space that they would like to use for third-generation, or 3-G, wireless communications or defense programs.

HDTV, where you can see in great clarity things such as an individual blade of grass or even scratches on a hockey puck, will be eventually coming to every TV viewer, though it might not happen soon.

"It took 24 years before half the sets in America were color," said Dennis Wharton, senior vice president of the National Association of Broadcasters in Washington. "It does take time for viewers to swap their television sets."

HDTV still costly

In 1996, Congress ordered all of the nation's approximately 1,600 public and commercial TV stations to change their broadcast signals from analog to digital, wide-screen images by 2006, or until 85 percent of households had the ability to pick up a digital signal, said Margo Davenport, an FCC senior attorney.

So far, 429 stations nationally are transmitting a digital signal in tandem with analog and that number gets bigger every day, Wharton said.

"We are steadily seeing stations converting all over the country to digital," he said. "It's encouraging. The benefits are sound clarity and picture quality, which are quite dramatic over time."

But the barriers are substantial. Not only are cable providers such as Adelphia not required to carry the signal, but HDTV sets are quite costly, ranging from $1,200 to $8,000.

What's more, television broadcasters are still struggling with an industrywide advertising slump that has dramatically affected their revenues. National, as well as local station owners have already had to trim staffs and cut back on programming.

"The FCC is asking TV stations under financial pressure to go out and spend money on equipment to put out a digital signal that not a lot of people will be able to watch," said John Spinola, station manager at WFLX. "The more stations that can pass a digital signal, the quicker it will happen. It will just take time to build."

Conversion isn't cheap

WFLX was the first station in West Palm Beach to transmit a digital signal, Spinola said, adding that it cost about $3 million to do it. He said the station had to pay for new equipment such as a transmitter, a converter and an antenna.

WPBF spent about $2 million to start transmitting in digital, said Cliff Thomas, the station's director of technical operations. He said high-definition transmits twice the amount of data as analog, which accounts for the extra detail that viewers can see.

"It will take a while to get this whole facility digital," he said.

WHDT-Channel 59 of Stuart, which is owned by Guenter Marksteiner and affiliated with the Berlin-based Deutsche Welle network, also is carrying a digital signal in Martin County.

To be sure, more consumers are buying -- as more retailers are pushing -- HDTV sets, especially as prices continue to come down.

Matt Gelling, a manager at the Circuit City store on Okeechobee Boulevard, said the West Palm Beach store is selling an increasing number of sets.

For competitive reasons, he declined to give specific numbers, but said, "It's becoming more and more popular. (Consumers) see the benefits of having an HDTV ready for the future."

But few observers believe that a switch to all-digital broadcasting will occur by the 2006 deadline. Nationwide, fewer than 2 million households in the United States have HDTV sets. And locally, only about 30 to 40 hours of high-definition television, taped by the networks, can be seen on HDTV sets.

"It will be a process, not an event," said Bill Peterson, station manager for WPTV. "The general awareness of the public is becoming much greater."

Peterson estimated the number of people in the market who own HDTV sets is in the low thousands, while there are 681,100 TV households in Palm Beach, Martin and St. Lucie counties. His station will spend close to $8 million to build a new tower, digital cameras and other equipment for the new signal.

"I think cable plays a big role in whether it's an easy transition," Peterson said.

Cable resists switch

However, cable providers are limited, as well. For example, Adelphia, which serves 575,000 viewers locally, does not have the capacity to pick up two signals from stations, according to Adelphia government affairs coordinator Chuck Blaine.

He said the FCC gave broadcasters a choice: They could have their digital or analog signals transmitted under a "must-carry" rule, but not both.

"To make room for digital, we would have to knock out 50 other channels for each station to have two channels," he said. "It doesn't make sense in the customer's eyes until there are enough HDTV sets out there."

Marc Smith, a spokesman for the Washington-based National Cable Television Association, said cable providers have started carrying digital stations in selected markets, but "it depends on the market demand.

"It depends on if people are banging on the door saying 'I want high-definition,' " he added. "Are people screaming for it? Or are they asking for programming, and willing to compromise on the quality of the picture?"

Satellite dish users are able to receive broadcast digital signals with the use of a separate antenna, but they still need an HDTV set for high-definition viewing. Thomas of WBPF said he expects Adelphia to pick up the digital signal to remain competitive with the dish companies.

Pax may add stations

Donn Colee, program director at WPEC, said the CBS affiliate had equipment problems that has delayed the launch of its digital signal until the end of the summer.

It makes sense for stations to start transmitting digital signals, he said, to spur consumers to buy HDTV sets.

"It's a force wave of the future," Colee said. "Everyone is required to invest in the equipment and technology. It's going to happen.

"It's just a question of when consumers will buy enough television sets to make it a viable business."

Seth Grossman, executive vice president and chief strategic officer at Paxson, said PAX TV plans to lease a tower that NBC, which owns 32 percent of Paxson, is building for Pax's 65 stations. He said most of the programming will be so-called standard digital, which offers an upgraded analog picture but not true high-definition. The tower will allow Paxson to add five more stations, Grossman said.

"As soon as the tower is up, we are in business," he said. WPTV's Peterson said he's a big fan of high-definition TV, and sees a return to the days when seeing what was on the tube was an out-of-the-ordinary experience.

"I think high-definition is going to make TV kind of special again," he said.

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Hardrock,

Thanks for posting the article. It seems to have several inaccuracies, eh! Oh well.

As for WPBF last night - I was so bummed. I figured "ALIAS" would be my first view of network HD - wrong - just some more stretched SD. Oh well, patience is a virtue (they say) I wound up watching that "Bachelorettes in Alaska" show, simply because the (480p?) looked so good...
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Pretty accurate article.

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